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04:49 < nsh> <L29Ah> i wonder if lucid dreaming practitioners have reduced memory capacity during wakefulness due to incomplete rest  # i don't think cultivating lucidity in REM would necessarily impact the recuperative properties of the sleep cycle
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16:33 < kanzure> hmph
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16:35 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33581696
16:35 < saxo> Where has the passive radar code gone? | Hacker News
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18:06 < maaku> muurkha: mtgox was about $400 million in customer desposits when it collapsed. FTX is about $100 billion
18:07 < maaku> ~3 orders of magnitude is a big difference
18:07 < maaku> bitcoin isn't down much because FTX didn't really trade much in bitcoin, so bitcoin is relatively unaffected
18:10 < muurkha> I feel like 20% is kind of much
18:10 < maaku> :shrug: that's a tuesday in the crypto markets
18:11 < muurkha> it fell to its lowest level in two years
18:11 < maaku> mtgox moved the bitcoin price way more. iirc it went from $440 at the moment of collapse to around $100
18:12 < muurkha> yeah
18:12 < maaku> so yeah in that sense mtgox was bigger, relatively speaking
18:12 < maaku> but evaporating a few hundre million $ of crypto nerd money is a lot less important than evaporating $100 billion of pension funds
18:12 < muurkha> although actually I think the current fall from peak is Bitcoin's biggest ever
18:13 < muurkha> it had fallen by about 70% twice, one being the mtgox collapse
18:13 < muurkha> right now it's at
18:13 < muurkha> .units 15973 / 68000 in %
18:13 < saxo> 	15973 / 68000 = 23.489706 % 	15973 / 68000 = (1 / 0.04257184) % 
18:14 < muurkha> 23% of its peak?
18:14 < muurkha> I don't think it's ever fallen 77% before
18:15 < maaku> btw if there are any mtgox creditors out there, payouts are finally happening. you need to login to claims.mtgox.com and submit bank and crypto exchange information
18:15 < muurkha> nice
18:15 < maaku> comes at a good time too, since I can reinvest at the market lows
18:16 < muurkha> I hope that works out!
18:17 < maaku> muurkha: you're measuring from the market top a year ago. not sure that's fair (FTX nonsense is just the last few weeks, at least as far as bitcoin is concerned)
18:17 < muurkha> I'm measuring from the previous market top in all three cases
18:17 < maaku> FTX seems to have dropped the bitcoin price from ~$20k to ~$16k, or 20%
18:17 < muurkha> yeah, that's what I meant by "I feel like 20% is kind of much"
18:18 < maaku> it's dropped 20% in the span of about a week 3 times already this year
18:19 < maaku> in June,  May,  and January
18:19 < muurkha> yeah, and it's dropped more than that in a week (or even a day) before
18:19 < muurkha> just not this year
18:19 < muurkha> it'll be interesting to see what happens
18:20 < muurkha> a year from now will it be back up to US$60k?  or down to US$3500?  nobody knows
18:50 < superkuh> Still useful to me at $3.
18:50 < superkuh> Although, I guess I didn't really think through the mining incentive effects.
18:53 < muurkha> what do you mean?
18:54 < kanzure> muurkha: there are certain questions about long-term incentives in bitcoin's future where miners may not be sufficiently paid by fees + PoW subsidy
18:55 < kanzure> (in which case the network would have to be forked to some other consensus algorithm (like a federation) which is not a popular design)
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19:05 < muurkha> kanzure: sufficiently paid in what sense? are we talking about a scenario where asics stop getting faster?
19:16 < fenn> nel is LOGGED: http://gnusha.org/logs | https://diyhpl.us/wiki | not quite sponsored b
19:16 < fenn> whoops
19:16 < fenn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prolific_inventors
19:17 < fenn> look at how many of these people don't even have wikipedia pages
19:17 < fenn> what the hell is going on? how can someone have >100 patents per year?
19:17 < muurkha> hire a lot of patent attorneys
19:17 < muurkha> it's easy to have >100 patentable ideas per year
19:18 < muurkha> especially in software!  but even in things like chemistry, you don't have to reduce the ideas to practice to patent them
19:18 < muurkha> you just have to describe them in enough detail that one skilled in the art could do so
19:18 < muurkha> as I understand it
19:28 < fenn> "Our Genworth R70i Aging Experienceopens in new window lets people directly experience the physical effects of aging, mimicking a variety of age-related challenges including arthritis, vision disorders, and hearing loss. The purpose of the R70i suit is to start a national dialogue about the process of aging"
19:29 < fenn> it's a dehancement exoskeleton
19:32 < muurkha> nice
19:32 < muurkha> hasn't there been an mpreg version of this for like a quarter century
19:33 < fenn> what's "mpreg"?
19:34 < fenn> no it's not just a bunch of foam rubber or whatever like a fat suit, it's an exoskeleton with an AR headset and other stuff
19:35 < fenn> http://youtu.be/mSiyFZl1dKI
19:35 < Muaddib> [mSiyFZl1dKI] A Closer Look At The Genworth R70i Aging Experience (4:45)
19:36 < fenn> http://youtu.be/gS7wLXyoX-o
19:36 < Muaddib> [gS7wLXyoX-o] The Genworth R70i Aging Experience (1:01)
19:36 < fenn> i kinda feel like i'm watching some elaborate april fools prank by a major corporation
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21:31 < fenn> https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/irony-2
21:31 < fenn> not funny
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