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06:13 < nsh> --
06:13 < nsh> For instance, Brinton notes, “genetically engineering cats to glow when radiation is near them is not something that, to my knowledge, we are not currently able to do.” And even if we had the technical know-how to make ray cats, creating them is only half the battle– we need people to pass down what they’re supposed to mean. As anyone who’s played a game of “telephone” or heard some juicy gossip that turned out to be only half-tru
06:14 < nsh> e knows, it’s easy for stories to get corrupted as they’re retold. But, as Linnaeus University archaeologist Cornelius Holtorf points out, the story of the ray cats “has lasted, what is it? 40 years now? That’s not the same as 1,000 years. But still, it is something.”
06:14 < nsh> -- https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/nuclear-waste-ray-cat-solution
06:25 < kanzure> kind of interesting that there's no monkey labor article on wikipedia, if it's such a 'problem'
06:25 < kanzure> surely one of the anti-monkey advocates would have written one by now
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10:23 < TMA> what about breeding intelligent humans?
10:28 < kanzure> https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/the-psychopharmacology-of-the-ftx
10:28  * L29Ah has read the URL
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12:41 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/antonioregalado/status/1592922507488923649
12:41 < saxo> Shortseller goes after Twist Bioscience, darling of DNA synthesis. Compares its low prices to an industry suicide bombing. What is true is that low/falling prices for synthetic DNA strands has long been a dilemma for innovative manufacturers. / https://scorpionreports.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/TW1.pdf (@antonioregalado)
12:48 < kanzure> http://www.synthesis.cc/synthesis/2022/10/dna-synthesis-cost-data
13:25 < fenn> monkey labor is the morally right thing to do. coconut harvesting related injuries are very common, mostly from coconuts falling and hitting humans on the head, but also falls. the monkeys never get hurt because they're above the falling coconuts, and they don't fall out of trees because they're good at climbing. supposedly they enjoy doing it
13:25 < fenn> one monkey can outperform 20 human harvesters
13:27 < kanzure> let's run a company that uses monkey labor for coconut harvesting but our spin is that we pay the monkeys better
13:28 < fenn> it's disappointing that everybody has just accepted wholesale the ideology and claims of one group, and with the presumed shamefulness of the practice, there's nobody around to stick out their neck and say they work with monkeys and defend the practice with a reasonable argument
13:28 < kanzure> it's entirely possible that the owners of the monkey business are actually shady characters too, which doesn't help
13:28 < fenn> our employees are some of the richest monkeys on earth
13:29 < kanzure> maybe if there wasn't such a stigma around it, the operation wouldn't be run by thugs
13:29 < fenn> nah it's most coconut businesses
13:29 < fenn> are business in oceania typically run by thugs? i don't know
13:32 < kanzure> "The Agriculture Department has designed a special machine to help farmers climb coconut trees so they no longer have to rely on monkeys."
13:32 < kanzure> "“We explained that only few communities are using monkeys to pick coconuts as a traditional way of life. No monkeys have been used to pick coconuts for export,” he clarified. “We have also compiled a monkey-free farm list so that foreign importers can select only farms that comply with no-animal-abuse standards,” he said."
13:34 < kanzure> okay, well maybe we can find a farm that isn't on that list
13:43 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTonhAejRFA
13:43 < saxo> Monkey School, Surat Thani, Thailand (this is how monkeys are trained to pick up only ripe coconuts) - YouTube
13:43 < Muaddib> [yTonhAejRFA] Monkey School, Surat Thani, Thailand (this is how monkeys are trained to pick up only ripe coconuts) (2:06)
14:07 < L29Ah> what about harvesting coconuts with .22LR?
14:07 < L29Ah> mounted on copters
14:52 < kanzure> https://tomforb.es/infosys-leaked-fulladminaccess-aws-keys-on-pypi-for-over-a-year/
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19:26 < fenn> somehow i expected our doom to be less ... cornball
19:26 < fenn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4McPHBQ9pNw
19:26 < Muaddib> [4McPHBQ9pNw] Elbit Systems / LANIUS (2:10)
19:26 < fenn> killer drone ad
21:05 < fenn> "Around 1,500 U.S. soldiers and 300 British soldiers lost limbs in Iraq and Afghanistan. Limb loss in the general population dwarfs those figures. In the United States alone, more than 2 million people live with limb loss"
21:05 < fenn> why is darpa trying so hard then
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