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04:24 < L29Ah> > Accounting for 50% of global final energy consumption in 2018, heat is the largest energy end-use and contributes 40% of global carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions. About 50% of total heat produced was used for industrial processes, another 46% was consumed in buildings for space and water heating and, to a lesser extent, for cooking, while the remainder was used in agriculture, essentially for greenhouse
04:24 < L29Ah>  heating.
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04:42 < Llamamoe> So insulating houses better or moving everyone to passive housing in the long run could shave upwards of 1/4 of humanity's energy consumption? 
04:49 < L29Ah> global warming could also shave some
04:50 < L29Ah> last time i calculated a small passive house for russia, the energy losses on ventilation were much more than "passive" heating from humans and typical appliances even with exaust regenerator
04:51 < L29Ah> given the interior is heated to 20C
04:51 < L29Ah> small = 15m²
04:53 < darsie> 15 m2 house is tiny.
04:54 < streety> 15m² does seem very small. How much insulation did you plan for and how much is "much more"
04:55 < streety> isn't the relevant metric CO2 production rather than energy? So ~18% rather than 25%.
04:55 < L29Ah> streety: 200mm XPS but it quickly becomes irrelevant as most of the losses come from the need to ventilate to keep CO2 under 1‰, i recall smth around 600W at -20C outside
04:58 < streety> how much of the year is at -20? 600W doesn't seem unreasonable for part of the year
04:59 < streety> I wonder at what point it becomes more cost effective to chemically scrub the indoor air of CO2
05:01 < L29Ah> depends on where exactly you live, in southern siberia it's a normal winter, becomes much worse to the (much less densely populated) north
05:08 < L29Ah> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oymyakon#Climate the extremal .ru settlement, mostly miners and deer herders
05:28 < streety> much colder than anything I have experience with. However, unless I'm calculating it incorrectly, 200mm XPS would only just meet the building regulations for new builds in the UK.
05:29 < streety> https://great-home.co.uk/building-regulations-current-u-values-for-insulation-in-homes/ claims 0.18 needed and https://ewistore.co.uk/thermal-conductivity-u-values/ suggests 200mm XPS would be 0.17 (0.034/0.2)
05:36 < darsie> consider vacuum insulation panels
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05:41 < darsie> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_insulated_panel
05:46 < kanzure> fenn: could i send your email along to enzymaticsynthesis?
06:01 < kanzure> "Mark Kryder, who projected in 2009 that if hard drives were to continue to progress at their then-current pace of about 40% per year, then in 2020 a two-platter, 2.5-inch disk drive would store approximately 40 terabytes (TB) and cost about $40."
06:01 < kanzure> hashtag what-the-future-still-owes-me
06:05 < kanzure> what crouch doesn't understand about "what we owe the future" is that what's more important is "what the future owes me"
06:06 < kanzure> .wik what we owe the future
06:06 < saxo> Article not found: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_we_owe_the_future gave 404 | Searched en for 'what we owe the future' | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_result_found gave 404 | Searched en for 'No result found'
06:07 < kanzure> .wik What We Owe The Future
06:07 < saxo> Article not found: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_We_Owe_The_Future gave 404 | Searched en for 'What We Owe The Future' | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_result_found gave 404 | Searched en for 'No result found'
06:07 < kanzure> oh come on
06:07 < kanzure> .wik What We Owe the Future
06:07 < saxo> "What We Owe the Future is a 2022 book by the Scottish philosopher and ethicist William MacAskill, an associate professor in philosophy at the University of Oxford." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_We_Owe_the_Future
06:09 < kanzure> apparently they are already on it but it's something about acausal trade https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/NK5LFazxKjwpaypJd/announcing-what-the-future-owes-us
06:10 < kanzure> instead should be about gibson's future that is already here but unwidely deployed, or where the heck my flying car is supposed to be
06:13 < kanzure> ah finally, a philosophy based around doing absolutely nothing "Not all trade requires an exchange of physical objects, or even information. It is, in some cases, possible to evidence that something will occur, without ever entirely confirming it, which we will later find to be a foundational resolution in inter-universal moral trade schemes"
06:20 < kanzure> .wik selegiline
06:20 < saxo> "Selegiline, also known as L-deprenyl and sold under the brand names Eldepryl and Emsam among others, is a medication which is used in the treatment of Parkinson's disease and major depressive disorder." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selegiline
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06:42 < kanzure> i just sent a post about promiscuous enzymatic synthesis for DNA data storage here: https://groups.google.com/g/enzymaticsynthesis/c/r1lUxyoDWE4
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07:39 < kanzure> some recommendations for greg bear books https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33679668
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10:53 < fenn> kanzure: yes, please send it
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10:54 < fenn> you can edit out the personal stuff and mailing list bounce message
10:54 < fenn> or not, whatever
11:11 < kanzure> machine learning stuff weekly newsletter thing https://alphasignal.ai/latest-summary 
11:11 < kanzure> fenn: ok thanks.
11:16 < kanzure> telomerase as a biological typewriter https://groups.google.com/g/enzymaticsynthesis/c/qt2d_i-oc2M
11:18 < kanzure> also i have sent some notes on DNA ligase and ligation strategies https://groups.google.com/g/enzymaticsynthesis/c/41r7D3wHKn8
13:22 < kanzure> https://ipo.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Securitisation_of_IP_in_the_US.pdf
13:23 < kanzure> didn't know about the structure described under "loans collateralized by title to intellectual property"
14:29 < maaku> .title https://www.kite.com/blog/product/kite-is-saying-farewell/
14:29 < saxo> Kite is saying farewell - Code Faster with Kite
14:30 < maaku> Open source Gihub Copilot like thing.
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15:26 < kanzure> "Goudlock wants to live longer and is a firm believer in 'bio-hacking', taking up to 60 pills a day" is this a parody of something
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15:43 < maaku> sounds like kurzweil
16:00 < L29Ah> i have alarmingly low number of daily pills, i hope i don't gradually become a deathist!
16:35 < maaku> I thought i was extreme with about 6 or so. Kurzweil aparantly has a gallon-sized ziplock bag for each day, and just works his way through it over time.
16:35 < maaku> I wonder if he just consumes everything in pill form.
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16:57 < brettgilio> !help
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16:59 < fenn> some can't be helped
17:00 < fenn> a gallon of pills is not credible... that would form a bezoar
17:00 < L29Ah> .t https://www.lifespan.io/news/lifespan-news-olive-oil-for-longevity/
17:00  * L29Ah feels he should look more into saturated fats
17:00 < saxo> Lifespan News – Olive Oil for Longevity | Lifespan.io
17:00 < fenn> actual kurzweil supplement regimen https://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/archive/images/article/magazine/1604/ff_kurzweil2_f.jpg
17:01 < fenn> i like the heat sealed bags
17:01 < fenn> foil retort pouches would be better
17:04 < fenn> 'The word was first used to describe a crucial moment in the evolution of humanity by the great mathematician John von Neumann. One day in the 1950s, while talking with his colleague Stanislaw Ulam, von Neumann began discussing the ever-accelerating pace of technological change, which, he said, "gives the appearance of approaching some essential singularity in the history of the race beyond which
17:04 < fenn> human affairs as we know them could not continue."'
17:04 < kanzure> stanislaw ulam is not stanislaw lem?
17:04 < fenn> von neumann coined "technological singularity" - how did i not know this?
17:05 < kanzure> yea it was a 1950s article from von neumann
17:05  * fenn looks around for the mandella effect time portal he must have fallen through
17:05 < fenn> mandela*
17:05 < fenn> stan ulam was a nuclear weapons designer, not a science fiction author
17:06 < kanzure> https://gnusha.org/logs/2022-07-13.log
17:06 < kanzure> "Can we survive technolog[ical singularity]?" http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~kite/doc/von_Neumann_1955.pdf
17:07 < lsneff> maaku: I appreciate what you said on twitter in your reply to me
17:08 < lsneff> you’re absolutely right of course
17:08 < lsneff> the main reason why I’m considering it is stock
17:08 < fenn> String 'singularity' not found.
17:10 < fenn> while he does mention computers and communication improvements, the article is mostly about nuclear weapons and climate change
17:11 < kanzure> lsneff: can you earn stock as an intern?
17:12 < lsneff> no, but I was offered full-time in January
17:12 < lsneff> (or may, when I graduate)
17:12 < kanzure> can you slow down to a single class at a time?
17:28 < lsneff> probably not, my remaining classes aren’t remote friendly ones, plus there are confounding factors that make continuing school after this spring likely several times more expensive
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18:25 < maaku> kanzure: ulam invented the H-bomb (with Tellar)
18:27 < maaku> lsneff: is your options grant going to be lower, or you just worried about the strike price?
18:28 < maaku> I would say it's better to knock it all out in a single semester than to string it along for a year or more one class at a time anyway
18:29 < maaku> I assume the offer you are considering is for the employer you are currently at. They work you hard and you won't have time for school.
18:30 < maaku> The other person made a good point about immigration visas too.
18:31 < maaku> An undergraduate degree is pretty worthless once you start working tbh. Except in all these esoteric edge cases where it is really, critically important.
18:32 < maaku> Besides at some point you may want to go back for a Masters or PhD at Col School of Mines or UCF. No sense in blocking that off as an option now
18:49 < kanzure> i think the idea is that public stock market comp might look good now if you're expecting a tech bounce
18:50 < kanzure> for a private company, i don't think their stock offers tend to track market sentiment
18:50 < kanzure> because it's illiquid anyway
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19:17 < lsneff> I’ve been chatting with people this evening and I’ve decided I’ll finish up
19:42 < maaku> kanzure: this particular private company is still pretty liquid.  some rediculous percentage of the money they raise goes to cashing out options to stay private
19:42 < maaku> but I don't expect the strike price to change much in 6-9 months
19:43 < maaku> lsneff: glad to hear it. hope you got a good deal
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