--- Log opened Mon Nov 21 00:00:23 2022 00:44 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:42 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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They have developed a new DNA synthesis chemistry known as SOLA (short oligonucleotide ligation assembly), which will be integrated into the BioXP™ 9600 system in 2023." 11:59 < kanzure> "Sperm syringe: 3d sorting platform for assisted reproduction" https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/admt.202101291 12:10 < fenn> forbes says "The global gene synthesis market is currently valued at $1.8 billion and estimated to expand at a 17.5% compound annual growth rate." 12:10 < fenn> which is an order of magnitude higher than rob carlson's estimate 12:17 < kanzure> well, john cumbers can't be considered forbes; i mean this is one of those blog sites. 12:23 < fenn> sheesh everything's a platform these days 12:49 -!- spaceangel_ [~spaceange@ip-94-113-214-149.bb.vodafone.cz] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:53 -!- spaceangel [~spaceange@ip-94-113-214-149.bb.vodafone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:03 < kanzure> https://www.finsmes.com/2022/09/enplusone-biosciences-raises-12m-in-seed-financing.html 13:03 < kanzure> enzymatic RNA synthesis company https://www.enplusonebio.com/solutions/ 13:04 < kanzure> "Founded by George Church, PhD, Daniel Wiegand, Jonathan Rittichier, PhD, and Dan Ahlstedt as a technology spinout from the Wyss Institute for Biologically Inspired Engineering at Harvard University, EnPlusOne is a biotechnology company harnessing the power of enzymes to synthesize RNA oligonucleotides. It leverages an ezRNA synthesis platform that can incorporate a diverse array of nucleotide ... 13:04 < kanzure> ...modifications to support direct RNA synthesis" 13:04 < kanzure> "The RNA synthesis platform aims to target synthesis lengths greater than 100-nt" 13:06 < kanzure> looks like terminal transferase again https://patents.google.com/patent/US20220145295A1/en 13:07 < kanzure> maybe they found total length is greater when doing RNA synthesis with terminal transferase, unlike DNA? 13:21 < yashgaroth> I think they're just targeting the RNA niche but hard to say. Is Fig. 11E their best depiction of the extension efficiency? because it's traaash 13:21 < kanzure> OH ANOTHER STARTUP, OKAY DOCTOR CHURCH HERE'S YOUR NINE MILLION DOLLARS 13:22 < kanzure> oh, $12m actually 13:23 < yashgaroth> ah they claim "sample loss" for why the signal degrades on that gel, easier to hide the unextended bands when there's nothing to see 14:01 < kanzure> "The race for enzymatic DNA synthesis heats up" https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00682-0 14:10 < kanzure> nuclera acquired E Ink's digital microfluidics division 14:10 < kanzure> https://www.taylorwessing.com/en/insights-and-events/news/media-centre/press-releases/2021/05/revolutionising-access-to-biology-with-transformational-acquisition-by-nuclera 14:28 < kanzure> animation of glphyic bio's protein sequencing technique https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gL2aGg7_34 14:28 < Muaddib> [2gL2aGg7_34] Glyphic Biotechnologies - Protein Sequencing Process (1:48) 14:53 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 14:53 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:04 < kanzure> a post about kalshi's prediction market https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33696486 15:19 -!- spaceangel_ [~spaceange@ip-94-113-214-149.bb.vodafone.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:57 < L29Ah> . https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9381899/ 17:57 < L29Ah> .t https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9381899/ 17:57 < saxo> Human age reversal: Fact or fiction? - PMC 17:57 < L29Ah> omg clickbait on my pubmed 18:09 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:23 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:50 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2601:5c4:c780:6aa0::a324] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:53 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:36 < lsneff> varda space is trying to recruit me, any of you have thoughts about them? 21:07 < maaku> People I respect in this space think highly of them. I have no first-hand knowledge to share. 21:08 < maaku> El Segundo is better than Seattle. You experienced dreasy Seattle weather yet? 21:16 < lsneff> Love the weather here 21:16 < lsneff> Cloudy and overcast 21:43 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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