--- Log opened Wed Dec 07 00:00:38 2022 00:56 -!- human_g33k [~HumanG33k@2a01:e0a:95:5d90:215:c5ff:fe68:fb04] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:43 < pasky> kanzure: I'm not sure! I think most of the contributors now are the generic "core gnu contributors" that work on gcc, binutils .. many of them simply work for redhat, there are some working for intel/amd/arm working on optimization 03:43 < pasky> & new hardware support 05:24 < kanzure> alright. 05:45 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2601:5c4:c780:6aa0::a324] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:57 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:11 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:31 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:53 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has quit [Quit: oornbuten uustaple ould qe oosmic nay] 10:10 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:41 -!- Malvolio is now known as ANACHRON 12:51 -!- ANACHRON [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:57 -!- codaraxis [~codaraxis@user/codaraxis] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:22 < kanzure> hmph 14:27 < kanzure> if chatgpt has a 45 terabyte common crawl data set that it is trained off of, how many terabytes of chatgpt interaction would be required to train another gpt-3 model from that? in the order of the number of queries to chatgpt 14:29 < kanzure> according to GPT-3 playground, it's telling me this would need only 10 terabytes of chatgpt session logs 14:30 < kanzure> which is probably wrong, but maybe there is a way to sample the chatgpt model such that you treat it as a compression function over the original training data set (which probably had lots of redundancies) 15:02 -!- srk- [~sorki@user/srk] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:05 -!- srk [~sorki@user/srk] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:05 -!- srk- is now known as srk 15:22 -!- srk- [~sorki@user/srk] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:22 -!- srk [~sorki@user/srk] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:24 -!- srk- is now known as srk 16:07 < fenn> there's the problem of coming up with prompts to sample the entire latent space 16:08 < fenn> it's not necessarily all connected, so you can't just spider like a webcrawler 16:10 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:16 < pasky> the prompt is a vector, it might be good enough to just sample a grid in the vector space of prompts and it's a question then of how fine a grid you need 16:16 < pasky> assuming the internal prompt vector has the same size as embeddings (just a guess), that'd be 12288-vector, hm. never mind i guess :) 16:17 < pasky> this actually wouldn't work with any reasonably sized vector, you need to compress the vector space 16:24 < kanzure> is it plausible to steal their parameters this way? 16:34 < pasky> well your actual gpt input is the prompt, not the encoded vector; this would require direct access to the model 16:38 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has left #hplusroadmap [] 16:57 < TMA> pasky: do not look backwards. good condition handling is already present in common lisp, therefore obsolete :) (like if with an else branch, anonymous functions (lambda), garbage collector, ...) 17:02 < pasky> TMA: er what are you replying to? :) 17:02 < TMA> pasky: your tweet series, of course https://twitter.com/xpasky/status/1596618565167513601 17:17 -!- human_g33k [~HumanG33k@2a01:e0a:95:5d90:215:c5ff:fe68:fb04] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:18 -!- human_g33k [~HumanG33k@2a01:e0a:95:5d90:215:c5ff:fe68:fb04] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:30 < kanzure> "Precise atom manipulation through deep reinforcement learning" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-35149-w 18:34 -!- codaraxis__ [~codaraxis@user/codaraxis] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:34 < kanzure> "A plant-derived natural photosynthetic system for improving cell anabolism" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-05499-y 18:36 -!- codaraxis [~codaraxis@user/codaraxis] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:38 -!- codaraxis__ [~codaraxis@user/codaraxis] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:41 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:05 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has quit [Killed (zirconium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 19:06 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:17 -!- test__ [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:21 -!- test_ [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:23 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2601:5c4:c780:6aa0::a324] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:25 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has quit [Quit: everyone loves the new machine] 19:43 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:14 -!- ANACHRON [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:03 < lsneff> well, it’s official, i’m coming back to spacex after i graduate 21:06 -!- ANACHRON [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:06 -!- srk [~sorki@user/srk] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:09 -!- ANACHRON [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:18 -!- ANACHRON [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:42 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:57 < fenn> gratz. i'll keep an eye out for you on the labpadre livestream :) 21:58 < fenn> that speck on the manlift in the rain at 4 am ahahahaha 22:09 < lsneff> :) 22:12 < lsneff> my coworkers were joking it’d be more beneficial for direct-to-cell if I went to starbase to work on starship instead of working on stuff up in seattle lol 22:23 -!- codaraxis [~codaraxis@user/codaraxis] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:59 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@user/superkuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] --- Log closed Thu Dec 08 00:00:39 2022