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05:19 < kanzure> "An upwelling system for culturing common octopus paralarvae and its combined effect with supplying natural zooplankton on paralarval survival and growth" https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0044848617318999
05:19 < kanzure> this article seems to indicate octopus paralaerval culture failures are because of inadequate water flow vectors
05:24 < kanzure> "swimming crab zoeae"
05:27 < kanzure> or tank color conflicts with their ability to locate food https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0044848620334396
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05:29 < kanzure> i wonder if they have tried dead crab zoeae 
05:58 < kanzure> why the assumption of live prey- why not microalgae or ambient nutrient bath/media?
06:39 < kanzure> according to this, the Nueva Pescanova Group octopus paralarvae diet was developed by unam.mx https://thefishsite.com/articles/a-visit-to-the-octopus-farming-pioneers-nueva-pescanova   but i don't see any articles on the precise subject.
06:47 < muurkha> interesting
07:13 < kanzure> https://www.tor.com/2020/07/03/a-brief-history-of-the-megastructure-in-science-fiction/
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07:28 < kanzure> does anyone have that quote where a CPU is described in terms of the number of people it would take to mentally compute arithmetic chains (it was something like millions of people multiplying numbers endlessly for years to reach a conclusion a CPU reaches in a few moments)
07:41 < kanzure> the quote of interest may have mentioned something about peasants or kings of the medieval age
07:45 < kanzure> maybe it was about bruteforce
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11:23 < nsh>  https://ia803006.us.archive.org/6/items/TheFeelingOfPower/The%20Feeling%20of%20Power.pdf
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12:08 < kanzure> hadn't seen that one before, but no that's not quite it
12:18 < kanzure> pasky: is there a good large language model that we could throw at the hplusroadmap logs corpus for non-exact word match on a conceptual level?
12:19 < kanzure> there's probably less than 80,000 separate concept vectors to catalog
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14:21 < kanzure> "[...]  Upon loss of Nr2f1 function, Nr2f1 knockout mice showed prolonged NPC proliferation and delayed neural differentiation, which led to the expansion of the occipital neocortex [62]."
14:21 < kanzure> where NPC = neuronal progenitor cell
14:21 < kanzure> "NR2F1 regulates regional progenitor dynamics in the mouse neocortex and cortical gyrification in BBSOAS patients" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7327499/
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15:57 < pasky> kanzure: i don't know, i haven't had a satisfying experience with anything open source six months ago
15:57 < pasky> kanzure: i expect whatever will it be, people will want to integrate it with elasticsearch so i'd watch out for that
15:58 < pasky> as a keyword
15:59 < kanzure> GPT-3 wants $0.10/log-day to do summaries, which is a bit much
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17:51 < kanzure> "For example, several years ago, a dog named Willow became famous when she appeared on several popular television shows. Willow's owner had trained her to “read" as many as 30 different words printed on cardboard cards. Not only could Willow recognize the words on the cards, she could also obey the commands they spelled out."
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