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02:05 < hprmbridge> kanzure> i will likely be posting an announcement soon on twitter about the availability of hplusroadmap discord experiment
02:05 < hprmbridge> kanzure> on that note, does anyone want to help moderate on the discord side?
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05:06 < kanzure> that's fine. good, even. but i was thinking it might be time to try an experiment.
05:15 < hprmbridge> eudoxia>
05:15 < kanzure> eudoxia!
05:27 < hprmbridge> androo>
05:36 < kanzure> orionsarm.com says: "We have chosen a new focus. Life on orbital habitats [...] For the next four months the editors, and anyone else who wants to join in, will be focusing on this topic[..]"
05:37 < hprmbridge> eudoxia> the other day i learned OA has a discord
05:37 < hprmbridge> eudoxia> maybe i join
05:38 < kanzure> yeah it's from their discord
05:38 < kanzure> although they link to a private locked forum for the announcement
05:38 < kanzure> "- The typical habitat is 30km long by 20km wide. What do you imagine being in it? What systems does such a structure need to function?"
05:38 < kanzure> "-How will life be different from inhabiting a planet? "
05:43 < kanzure> @eudoxia: btw i would like to have a full backup of orionsarm.com but don't yet :\
05:48 < hprmbridge> Bob McElrath>
05:49 < hprmbridge> eudoxia>
06:02 < hprmbridge> latentZ>
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06:06 < hprmbridge> eudoxia>
06:16 < hprmbridge> eleitl>
06:16 < hprmbridge> eudoxia>
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06:20 < hprmbridge> yashgaroth>
06:22 < hprmbridge> yashgaroth> ah this explains yesterday
06:45 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/kanzure/status/1615359557408260096
06:45 < hplusbot> kanzure: error: invalid username
06:45 < hplusbot> kanzure: 2023-01-17 14:45:05 kanzure: 15 years of molecular nanotech, brain emulation, DNA synthesis, longevity, cryonics and more. Join the #hplusroadmap gc now available on discord https://discord.gg/vFPzfaaeXv - work on cutting-edge technology development projects. Read more here: https://diyhpl.us/wiki/hplusroadmap
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06:54 < hprmbridge> b0t>
07:19 < hprmbridge> Luke Parrish>
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07:52 < hprmbridge> b0t> https://tenor.com/view/cartman-south-park-yo-whats-up-whats-up-whats-up-gif-24465599
07:58 < hprmbridge> kanzure> try not to be too disruptive to the natives
08:00 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Ooga Booga!
08:27 < L29Ah> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemic_inflammation zero instances of "allerg", huh
08:33 < kanzure> there was something yesterday about feto-maternal chimerism of antibodies, that was kind of cool
08:34 < kanzure> maybe it was this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microchimerism#Postnatal_tolerance_to_NIMAs
08:39 < docl> for therepeutic microchimerism, it would be nice to have a kill switch on the modified cell line in case it starts driving the patient's immune system crazy
08:42 < kanzure> there have been various engineered apoptosis triggers, including 'necessary vitamin' approaches
09:12 < hprmbridge> Phill> Hey, does anybody know how to make the invite I got to hplusroadmap work in my Discord app?
09:12 < hprmbridge> Phill> All I can do is get it to add the channel to my browser interface, which I don't use.
09:12 < hprmbridge> Phill> oh, never mind
09:12 < hprmbridge> Phill> different accounts
09:12 < hprmbridge> kanzure> send the invite to your phone?
09:13 < hprmbridge> Phill> I just have to log into the app with this account. 'Doh!
09:17 < muurkha> oh hi eleitl, good to see you
09:17 < hprmbridge> kanzure> you two probably met in the 1990s
09:18 < muurkha> probably on FoRK
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10:06 < lsneff> hate these bridges which consolidate everyone under a single account
10:06 < lsneff> I’m using the matrix bridge, which connects individually for each account, I believe
10:12 < L29Ah> irc sux as it doesn't allow this nicely w/o special provisions for each bridge
10:13 < L29Ah> well, maybe not irc per se, but libera implementation
10:19 < hprmbridge> kanzure> well, if you have a different bridge software you want me to try, let me know.
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12:17 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://twitter.com/foresightinst/status/1615438858107117588
12:17 < hplusbot> hprmbridge: 2023-01-17 20:00:11 foresightinst: On January 24th, our Molecular Machines Group will be joined by Christian Schafmeister to discuss candidate hardware and software applied to Molecular Nanotech! Make sure to subscribe to our YouTube channel so you don't miss the recording: https://youtube.com/c/ForesightInstitute?sub_confirmation=1 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmsxEo_WYAwBgzG.jpg
12:24 < L29Ah> christian temple, hmmm
12:32 < L29Ah> Muaddib: translate "schafmeister" to English
12:32 < Muaddib> L29Ah: Shepherd 🐑
12:41 < kanzure> https://www.reddit.com/r/Biohackers/comments/108ncxs/cbp2_438ga_as_a_target_for_extending_human/ https://www.quantamagazine.org/ants-live-10-times-longer-by-altering-their-insulin-responses-20230110/
13:01 < kanzure> 12:55 < gwern> my mental image [of hplusroadmap] is of a salon where you all sit around in tuxedoes competing to name a more exotic mutation to CRISPR into humans; you score points by how many monocles pop after your suggestion
13:06 < L29Ah> what irc channel does this come from?
13:07 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Haha
13:07 < hprmbridge> nmz787> L29ah probably something bitcoin/whatever-coin-is-cool-now
13:11 < yashgaroth> reminds me I need my tuxedo dry-cleaned
13:12 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Reminds me I've NEVER had any of my suits cleaned
13:12 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Tho I have like 5 or 6, from Thailand and India, and don't wear them often
13:15  * L29Ah never had tuxedos except one he was forced to wear at school
13:20 < kanzure> https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/BJay9ve924oavHABj/building-a-transhumanist-future-15-years-of-hplusroadmap-now
13:20 < kanzure> https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/BJay9ve924oavHABj/building-a-transhumanist-future-15-years-of-hplusroadmap-now
13:22 < kanzure> L29Ah: oh, gwern lives in #lesswrong
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13:25 < L29Ah> hmmm i was banned there in 2015
13:25 < L29Ah> is it any good these days?
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13:30 < kanzure> no
13:32 < maaku> it is awful. don't waste your time there
13:44 < docl> https://foresight.org/technologies/nanotech-molecular-machines/
13:46 < kanzure> docl: thinking about going to the feb27 thing?
13:46 < kanzure> the one foresight is hosting
13:48 < docl> what's the feb 27 thing? I don't typically travel much or show up at these things
13:49 < kanzure> https://foresight.org/foresight-existential-hope-day-2023/
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13:53 < kanzure> 13:53 < rsaarelm> I'd like to see someone try Steve Hsu's idea of just taking an average of the human genome so you'd get no weird rare mutations in it, but I guess it'd be lots of work to synthesize it.
13:54 < kanzure> 13:53 < gwern> rsaarelm: that's cochran, not hsu
14:00 < maaku> speaker list doesn't look very interesting
14:01 < kanzure> yeah..
14:05 < docl> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCc8FmEb1nY
14:05 < hplusbot> docl: Let's build GPT: from scratch, in code, spelled out. - length 1h56m20s - 2391↑0↓ - 8,197 views - Andrej Karpathy on 2023.01.17
14:05 < Muaddib> [kCc8FmEb1nY] Let's build GPT: from scratch, in code, spelled out. (116:20)
14:20 < kanzure> pasky: can we disable the Muaddib youtube title feature
14:20 < L29Ah> can we disable hplusbot's highlighting?
14:21 < kanzure> probably!
14:32 < L29Ah> Muaddib: why is delta-wing more popular than disc-shaped wing?
14:32 < Muaddib> L29Ah: Because delta-wing is more aerodynamic, thus providing greater speed and maneuverability in flight.
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14:41 < hprmbridge> nmz787> MUaddib what does your name mean?
14:42 < hprmbridge> kanzure> won't see your request because of the formatting in the logs
14:43 < hprmbridge> kanzure> or rather, the bridge.
14:43 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Ah, oh well
14:43 < hprmbridge> kanzure> it's probably a reference to dune or the mouse
14:43 < hprmbridge> nmz787> AI not smrt enug
14:43 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Enuf
14:43 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Sounds arabic-ish to me
14:43 < hprmbridge> kanzure> hence dune
14:43 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Dune was arabic?
14:44 < nsh> 'Muad'Dib · Muad'Dib, the Fremen name for the desert mouse found on the planet Arrakis · Muad'Dib, the Fremen name adopted by Paul Atreides, in Original Dune.'
14:44 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Ah
14:44 < nsh> dune was written by someone who was inspired by various languages and cultures, including arabic
14:44 < hprmbridge> nmz787> I can't remember if I ever saw the first movie, sort of remember the latest rendition. Never read any books on it, if they exist
14:46 < nsh> if you take the average of all the books then it's especially good
14:46 < nsh> (to clarify that was a deliberately farcical idea to lampoon the one alluded to in earnest above)
14:47 < hprmbridge> nmz787> These days I only read children's books and code, and nutritional facts...
14:47 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Nsh, doesn't make sense, but I heard ya!
14:47 < hprmbridge> kanzure> read dune to your kid, and report back to us
14:48 < nsh> ("I'd like to see someone try Steve Hsu's [Gregory Cochran's] idea of just taking an average of the human genome so you'd get no weird rare mutations in it"
14:48 < nsh> )
14:49 < hprmbridge> kanzure> is your point that you wouldn't be able to build a consensus genome because genes aren't real ? or what
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15:09 < nsh> up to 25% of natural conceptions result in miscarriage, often so early that pregnancy is not even realised. that's just the very mild non averaging mixing at the granularity of chromosomes with the incubation environment guaranteed to be highly adjacent (and thus 'compatible' in some abstract sense increasing prospects of viability) to the resulting set of possible [ad]mixtures
15:10 < nsh> also consider sensitive dependence of variations between and across [groups of] alleles 
15:10 < hprmbridge> nmz787> I'm sad I'm at the point of deciding to have another kid, and editing still isn't a thing I can get for "fun"
15:10 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Editing or sorting
15:11 < hprmbridge> nmz787> (and medical tourism sounds meh at this point in life)
15:12 < nsh> the ceremony of innocence is drowned
15:13 < hprmbridge> kanzure> @nmz787 how about blastocyst complementation
15:13 < hprmbridge> nmz787> How do the emoticons look on IRC? does it link to a URL?
15:14 < hprmbridge> kanzure> filtered out for now
15:14 < hprmbridge> nmz787> I haven't cooked it up myself, and I don't think that's available in downtown medical offices today
15:15 < pasky> let's see if this works /ignore -pattern youtube #hplusroadmap
15:32 < fenn> i have another nomenclature question, for a thing i have been imagining for a long time but i don't know what to call it
15:33 < fenn> when you use a viral vector for gene therapy, the antigens on the specific virus you use become known to your immune system, so you only get one chance to use that vector.
15:36 < fenn> but we want to constantly be upgrading and patching old bad code as better gene mods come out. in order to get good coverage over a large proportion of cells without re-inserting the DNA over and over again, which would lead to overexpression in some cells or maybe cancer, you'd "hot patch" the receptor that the vector binds to, replacing it with a re-engineered receptor that functions the same
15:36 < fenn> but doesn't bind to the virus
15:36 < hprmbridge> kanzure> you could also encode expression of the virus capsid into the germline and get immune privilege, i think?
15:36 < fenn> you can only do this "hot patch" procedure once, and then the cells that have been infected are expressing the new non-infectable receptor
15:37 < fenn> i'm not talking about germline, ok.
15:37 < hprmbridge> kanzure> only some cells will have your hot patch. anyway, maybe @yashgaroth can answer.
15:37 < fenn> so instead of a custom solution for each new upgrade patch, you'd instead install a sort of "bootloader" system that makes it easy to load new DNA and insert it only once
15:38 < fenn> the bootloader can load other bootloaders so you aren't totally screwed if you lose the first bootloader
15:40 < yashgaroth> the one-shot problem can be mitigated with massive doses of immunosuppressants coadministered with the viral vector, which is ok for lifesaving treatments but otherwise fairly risky in its own right
15:40 < fenn> part of this is from thinking about how expensive non-self-replicating viral vectors are to make. all you really need is a single active replicating viral particle
15:40 < yashgaroth> also the new receptor would be immunogenic as well, unless you pick from a short list of existing ones that can be used without fucking up some cellular process or virus targeting
15:41 < yashgaroth> and the limited capacity of the vector to codeliver a new receptor, at least with AAV and some others
15:41 < fenn> why is AAV used if it is so limited?
15:42 < yashgaroth> because it's enough for one human gene, usually, is fairly easy to handle, well-characterized, and has decent efficiency (at least if you want to target liver)
15:43 < yashgaroth> most proteins are about 500aa, so the gene and a decent minimal promoter like CMV can be crammed in
15:43 < hprmbridge> Captain E. Coli> @L29Ah why were you banned from lesswrong? Is there divergence between traditional transhumanist goals and the goals of lesswrong?
15:43 < yashgaroth> knocking out the receptor in transduced cells is a good idea to prevent overexpression, though usually they have other functions
15:45 < hprmbridge> kanzure> maybe there's a good review article by now with a reusable gene therapy platform
15:45 < fenn> eventually you need some way to turn off the self-replication, i guess that could be done fairly easily with a counter or something like telomeres
15:45 < fenn> or it could depend on a co-administered drug
15:46 < L29Ah> hprmbridge: i was banned for trying to figure out what they call "akrasia"
15:46 < yashgaroth> engineering in a few dozen dummy receptors is probably a solid sell for the designer baby portfolio
15:47 < fenn> it's also a convenient target for genocidal maniacs
15:47 < yashgaroth> they have plenty of targets already
15:47 < fenn> yeah we're probably totally screwed there anyway
15:47 < fenn> i mean the designer baby hating kind of genocidal maniac
15:47 < L29Ah> and yes there's some divergence: lesswrong seems very focused on EA that seems very focused on increasing human biomass, while transhumanism is more into high quality meatbags
15:49 < fenn> i'm far more worried about a reverse-gattaca scenario where "GMO humans" are despised and persecuted
15:49 < yashgaroth> self-replicating solves many issues but has some of its own, most viruses are crammed full just with their own replication-competent genome. Enveloped viruses are a bit more flexible there. Should be easy enough to turn it off with an inducible trigger when it seems complete
15:49 < hprmbridge> kanzure> even non GMO humans are despised and hated tho
15:49 < fenn> where do you think i got the idea
15:50 < hprmbridge> kanzure> (I guess you might mean "even more so")
15:50 < hprmbridge> kanzure> is there a good write-up of the genomic landing pads idea?
15:51 < yashgaroth> I think we could integrate some countermeasures to the vatican's secret GMO-cleanser
15:51 < hprmbridge> kanzure> also, it may be difficult to detect GMO humans, especially if they are chimeras
15:52 < hprmbridge> kanzure> or mosaics
15:52 < yashgaroth> it'd need to spread effectively in baseline humans, including symptoms...can't rely on the monthly GMO baby meetups for transmission
15:53 < yashgaroth> now to find if anyone's generated a DRACO mouse line and just bombarded it with viruses
15:54 < fenn> i'm not sure if i want to put out ideas for genociding our superbabies, but there are other ways to get viruses into humans besides walking around the subway coughing
15:55 < fenn> much easier to do when it's harmless to 99% of the populace
15:56 < yashgaroth> we walk the fine line between developing theoretical defenses, and giving the vatican's elite bioscientists more ideas
15:56 < L29Ah> just secede onto the Belt
15:56 < L29Ah> unmodified meatbags don't live well in space
15:57 < fenn> anyway the point was just that adding dummy receptor "upgrade hooks" isn't a cost-free strategy
15:57 < yashgaroth> virus-laden ICBMs launched from rome
15:57 < hprmbridge> kanzure> I don't see much difference between transhumanism and a longtermist outlook?
15:57 < fenn> is the vatican anti-GMO?
15:57 < yashgaroth> when I think of who'd have the resources and motive to do this, they sprung to mind
15:57 < L29Ah> is bitcoin shorttermist or longtermist?
15:58 < superkuh> Bitcoin is a currency.
15:58 < superkuh> Speculators get what they deserve.
15:59 < fenn> any nation-state or even a university could do it today
15:59 < fenn> you wouldn't need BSL-3 or whatever because it's not infectious for wild type humans
16:00 < fenn> i'm imagining something like the 9/11 terrorist cell
16:01 < yashgaroth> I still think it'd have to infect wild-type, you're not gonna get a significant fraction of GMOs without widespread transmission. Plus when news gets out that GMOs' brains are exploding from a common cold, concerns would be raised
16:01 < fenn> ANYWAY i don't really want to speculate about future bio-terrorist methods
16:01 < yashgaroth> if you have to find them individually and spray them with virus it'd be easier to bring a gun
16:01 < yashgaroth> ok yes discussion over
16:02 < fenn> inserting "genomic landing pads" is similar to what i was thinking about bootloaders
16:03 < yashgaroth> it would be useful, but presupposes that we won't be able to tailor the integrases to make any suitable site a de facto landing pad
16:04 < yashgaroth> also assumes that getting the payload to the nucleus isn't the bottleneck, which it probably will be
16:05 < fenn> pesky eukaryotes
16:05 < yashgaroth> what are they hiding behind that double membrane
16:05 < yashgaroth> sus
16:06 < fenn> free the mitochondria!
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16:12 < hprmbridge> kanzure> @Synopticz are you familiar with nectome? https://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/nectome-1517-2018/
16:15 < hprmbridge> Synopticz> of course.
16:36 < hprmbridge> kanzure> @Synopticz is there a good review article or summary for room temp brain preservation?
16:50 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41566-022-01139-z
17:38 < docl> for anyone not familiar, christian schafmeister / drmeister developed spiroligomers back in the day as an alternative approach to nanotech (instead of proteins, which are less computationally tractable and degrade more easily than spiroligomers). the synthesis process is mature, can make kilograms of any spiroligomer molecule / macromolecule given a recipe. we basically just need to start throwing 
17:38 < docl> compute at molecular simulations to get arbitrary 3d structures assembled from CHON
17:41 < docl> which of course means custom catalysts, membranes, etc. to start with. also seems reasonable to bootstrap diamondoid tech from this
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18:21 < kanzure> looks like messages with carriage returns are not relayed
18:21 < kanzure> [Discord] Synopticz> hello everyone i'm interested in cryonics and brain preservation, especially lower cost options such as those using 4°C or room temperature storage. i have been posting some links o$ these topics the past few years here: https://www.reddit.com/r/biostasis
18:21 < kanzure> [Discord] Synopticz> glad to see this server and i wish you all the best.
18:22 < kanzure> also there was this other message:
18:23 < kanzure> [Discord] Captain E. Coli> I am  looking to integrate EA with what some could call transhumanist goals, such that selfish incentive converge to drive longtermist goals that function at scale. For example, with significant innovation in longevity, makes it so that selfish individuals can't discount the future... since they'll have to be living in it, thus incentivizing further coordination. Has ...
18:23 < kanzure> ...this integration been tried before? Can you help me build a model of the divides between the two groups? (I can shift my attention to the bioengineering once an understanding of the metaproblems is accounted for.)
18:23 < kanzure> which was what i was replying to earlier about longtermites
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18:30 < hprmbridge> kanzure> okay
18:30 < hprmbridge> kanzure> let's try again
18:30 < kanzure> hey that worked.
18:32 < L29Ah> kanzure: how's it in austin? got access to GHRP, metformin, DHEA, blood plasma dumping?
18:33 < kanzure> what do those things have in common with austin?
18:33 < kanzure> i don't understand
18:35 < L29Ah> ehhh, Austin is a location, while the things are entities that are generally located somewhere (for example in or out of Austin, or, particulary, within kanzure's reach)
18:35 < kanzure> i don't think i know an answer sorry
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20:35 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Isn't this decades old idea?
20:36 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Like MIL usage in the coldwar sort of stuff?
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23:28 < hprmbridge> BrickOnKeyboard> Idea is very old.  this may have been the first time the equipment was available to try it.
23:29 < hprmbridge> BrickOnKeyboard> https://hackaday.com/2019/12/02/fun-with-a-200-kw-fiber-laser/
23:32 < hprmbridge> BrickOnKeyboard> on a related topic.  They didn't use a fiber laser for the lightning experiment but whatever a "Yb:YAG Chirped pulse amplification laser system developed by TRUMPF Scientific Lasers"
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