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04:42 < kanzure> for "nanomodular electronics" how do you place the individual components down in a precise way? i don't get it
04:42 < kanzure> and even if you do place them in a precise way, how do you orient your nanotransistors?
04:44 < kanzure> https://cointelegraph.com/news/wyoming-lawmakers-pass-bill-to-prevent-forced-disclosure-of-private-keys
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05:29 < kanzure> shamir secret sharing by hand with volvelles and no computers https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2023-February/021469.html https://secretcodex32.com/
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09:05 < kanzure> "Even the transistors at the core of microelectronics are still shockingly expensive compared to other manufactured goods. At roughly $10 billion per kilogram, transistors cost thousands to millions of times more than even drugs, which are created in bulk chemical processes that scale with volume. If you could create transistors and other circuit components in the same way, making ...
09:05 < kanzure> ...microelectronics could be as ubiquitous as writing software. However, changing how we make transistors requires an entirely new process for creating microelectronics."
09:05 < kanzure> https://www.spec.tech/library/nanomodular-electronics-roadmap
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09:08 < kanzure> "Printed wiring simplifies tooling by making photolithographic mask sets for each circuit design unnecessary, removing a key contributor to cost and cycle time in traditional manufacturing"
09:08 < kanzure> ehh...
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09:08 < kanzure> i mean why not just say "SMT pick-and-place of 180 nm components"
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09:10 < kanzure> "Drop casting, spray coating, blade coating" "combination of electron beam lithography patterning and DNA self-assembly" "dielectrophoresis" 
09:10 < kanzure> "By combining imaging and machine learning, the system could classify as-placed nanomodular components[19] [20] [21] and route the desired circuit “on-the-fly.”[22]"
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10:25 < kanzure> masamune: could you fix your client's connection
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10:37 < masamune> kanzure: is it still doing it?
10:37 < muurkha> not in the last 50 minutes
10:37 < muurkha> well, 49
10:37 < masamune> yea, I think I fixed it
10:37 < masamune> sorry about that
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11:37 < hprmbridge> nmz787> How does an amusement park train fit into achieving hplus success? https://bid.wiregrassauctiongroup.com/ui/auctions/94577
11:38 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Build out a ride like they had in the original Jurassic park? But for embryo selection/editing?
11:41 < kanzure> eh some rail on your property might help with transporting equipment
11:41 < muurkha> euthanasia coaster?
11:42 < muurkha> I guess that's more h- than h+
11:44 < kanzure> in what way would voluntary death with dignity be h-? or do you mean something else?
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11:52 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Subtracting humans, h-
11:54 < hprmbridge> nmz787> https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZw5NdQZwcbPB67uDCa6AZZuWOPva6sa3
11:54 < hprmbridge> nmz787> History of microscopy
11:58 < muurkha> exactly, nmz787 
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12:24 < Jenda> lsneff: I had a conversation with someone claiming that critical parts of the "self"/"intelligence" is the nerves in one's bowels or something like this. (unfortunately I fail to find it now) However, they failed to explain why e.g. car accidents damaging such nerves have very little impact on "self" and thus the argument was won :)
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13:12 < nsh> i'm pretty sure you both lost
13:14 < nsh> .wik Enteric nervous system
13:14 < lsneff> that person sounds full of shit
13:14 < lsneff> lol
13:15 < nsh> the characteristics of the enteric nervous system, which facilitates the operation of the digestive system at the locus of the small intestine is indeed deeply implicated in human behaviour
13:16 < nsh> are, rather
13:16 < superkuh> "Non-invasive temporal interference electrical stimulation of the human hippocampus" https://doi.org/10.1016/j.brs.2023.01.031  - I can't seem to find the full text for this. All the pdf URLs in that page just give the abstract...
13:16 < superkuh> Oh. On bioarxiv.
13:16 < superkuh> I should've checked.
13:17 < superkuh> Just a conference poster of an old article.
13:17 < nsh> (as is the nervous system associated with cardiac function)
13:18 < nsh> and accidents having 'very little impact on "self"' is closer to mashed potato with watery gravy than a serviceable critique :)
13:19 < nsh> and the thing about understanding is that it's a lot like the view you get from the top of a mountain, especially in the sense that you often might want to walk a little further to get at it 
13:20 < nsh> and not plant a flag on a hillock
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20:25 < fenn> muurkha: re differential signalling in the brain, https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/08/19/maybe-your-zoloft-stopped-working-because-a-liver-fluke-tried-to-turn-your-nth-great-grandmother-into-a-zombie/
20:28 < masamune> interesting
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23:44 < Mabel> interesting
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