--- Log opened Sat Apr 22 00:00:39 2023 00:13 -!- stipa [~stipa@user/stipa] has quit [Quit: gone] 00:27 < muurkha> fenn: maybe that it springs from those who are foolish enough to run your software? neither Mao nor Gandhi nor Machiavelli thought so 00:30 < alethkit> fenn: The tendency to expand and consume 00:32 < muurkha> I prefer not to be consumed 00:32 < muurkha> maybe that is also the nature of power 01:01 -!- cthlolo [~lorogue@77.33.23.154.dhcp.fibianet.dk] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:47 -!- Hooloovoo [~Hooloovoo@216.169.5.238] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:24 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:55 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has left #hplusroadmap [] 03:05 -!- cthlolo [~lorogue@77.33.23.154.dhcp.fibianet.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:08 -!- Llamamoe [~Llamamoe@46.204.109.38.nat.umts.dynamic.t-mobile.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:08 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@user/andytoshi] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:17 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@user/andytoshi] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:31 -!- test_ [~flooded@146.70.202.67] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:34 -!- flooded [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:33 -!- Croran [~Croran@user/Croran] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:35 -!- Croran [~Croran@user/Croran] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:36 -!- Guest76 [~Guest76@2a02:21b4:4664:1c00:6db0:45cd:4b88:83a5] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:01 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2601:5c4:c780:6aa0:3847:864b:28d5:c497] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:08 < alethkit> Perry: Have you actually managed to get an LLM to give you useful output for STEM work? 05:09 < alethkit> I tried using Claude, and I got duped by what looked to be a genuine-sounding textbook 05:10 < hprmbridge> Perry> GPT-4 is vastly superior to Claude. 05:27 -!- Guest76 [~Guest76@2a02:21b4:4664:1c00:6db0:45cd:4b88:83a5] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:39 -!- Llamamoe [~Llamamoe@46.204.109.38.nat.umts.dynamic.t-mobile.pl] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:44 -!- Llamamoe [~Llamamoe@46.204.109.38.nat.umts.dynamic.t-mobile.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:50 < alethkit> Yeah, but now I have to pay for it instead of occasionally using nat.dev 05:52 < alethkit> Oh, just remembered they don't have Internet access 06:08 < hprmbridge> Perry> I also have to pay for heat, water, and food. $20 a month to get access to the most powerful general-purpose AI on the planet is nothing. It’s a bargain. 06:28 -!- Guest76 [~Guest76@2a02:21b4:4664:1c00:6db0:45cd:4b88:83a5] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:37 -!- stipa [~stipa@user/stipa] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:40 -!- flooded [~flooded@146.70.174.227] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:44 -!- test_ [~flooded@146.70.202.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:54 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:02 -!- cthlolo [~lorogue@77.33.23.154.dhcp.fibianet.dk] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:40 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has left #hplusroadmap [] 07:57 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:59 -!- A_Dragon [A_D@libera/staff/dragon] has quit [Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in] 07:59 -!- A_Dragon [A_D@libera/staff/dragon] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:21 < kanzure> "It's also important to note how crazy the ASML EUV machines are, they each take a megawatt of power to produce about 100 watts of EUV. The infrastructure just to run these machines is staggering. TSMC uses about 5% of Taiwans total power I believe." 09:22 < kanzure> from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35665076 09:22 -!- Guest76 [~Guest76@2a02:21b4:4664:1c00:6db0:45cd:4b88:83a5] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:22 < kanzure> "I'm not exaggerating when I say that designing a new technology node for mass production is like a moon program. TSMC designs new node every few years, builds a fabs that cost 20+ billion. ASML machines are the most expensive tooling there but they are just part of the whole." 09:43 < docl> this is why we need APM 09:45 < hprmbridge> nmz787> I was learning about the heating effects on reticles getting pounded by EUV photons yesterday, and the lithography errors that can occur https://sci-hub.ru/https://doi.org/10.1117/12.2048281 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064664282450628710/1099375459894054912/Screenshot_20230422-094407.png 09:46 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Basically the projected image "breathes" as it heats and cools (say the time difference between moving one field of view that is directly adjacent in the X, compared to the time it takes to move to an adjacent field in the Y) 10:29 < nsh> >>> 2023-04-10 solving problems with chatgpt - https://computer.rip/2023-04-10-solving-problems-with-chatgpt.html 10:29 < nsh> pretty good critique 11:06 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 11:06 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:11 -!- superz [~superegg@user/superegg] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:52 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@user/andytoshi] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:53 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has left #hplusroadmap [] 11:54 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:56 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@user/andytoshi] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:00 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@user/andytoshi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:05 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@user/andytoshi] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:17 < juri_> I'm sure this has already been reported, but... https://today.duke.edu/2023/04/brain-images-just-got-64-million-times-sharper 12:59 -!- test_ [~flooded@146.70.202.99] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:03 -!- flooded [~flooded@146.70.174.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:40 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@user/andytoshi] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:41 -!- cthlolo [~lorogue@77.33.23.154.dhcp.fibianet.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:42 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@user/andytoshi] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:11 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has left #hplusroadmap [] 14:27 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:26 < fenn> science magazine has a cover story and special section on human reproduction. it's not online yet 15:27 < kanzure> are they for, or against? 15:54 -!- superz [~superegg@user/superegg] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:08 -!- flooded [~flooded@146.70.147.115] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:11 -!- test_ [~flooded@146.70.202.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:16 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:08 -!- Gooberpatrol_66 [~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:18 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:52 -!- popeye [~jaydu@oki-180-131-253-206.jptransit.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:52 -!- popeye [~jaydu@oki-180-131-253-206.jptransit.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:17 -!- test_ [~flooded@146.70.202.51] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:20 -!- flooded [~flooded@146.70.147.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:27 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2601:5c4:c780:6aa0:3847:864b:28d5:c497] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:46 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has quit [Quit: 161 :just go to our website and fill out the complaints form you can also email us at complaintsdepartment at wedontgivea ck dot fu ACCGAC 2023-04-23 02:46:51:761] 21:07 < docl> drmeister: would it make sense to use spiroligomer membranes as scaffolds to nanoposition diamondoids with respect to each other? seems like you could control their orientation and which atoms at their surface are in contact this way. 22:26 -!- flooded [~flooded@146.70.174.211] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:30 -!- test_ [~flooded@146.70.202.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:47 -!- AMG [ghebo@user/amg] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] --- Log closed Sun Apr 23 00:00:40 2023