--- Log opened Thu Apr 27 00:00:44 2023 00:06 -!- Llamamoe [~Llamamoe@46.204.64.48.nat.umts.dynamic.t-mobile.pl] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:39 -!- AMG [ghebo@2605:6400:c847:1449::9441] has quit [Changing host] 00:39 -!- AMG [ghebo@user/amg] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:13 < alethkit> docl: You don't have a custom search routine set up to avoid that? 03:11 -!- popeye [~jaydu@oki-180-131-253-206.jptransit.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:11 -!- popeye is now known as Jay_Dugger 03:11 < Jay_Dugger> Hello, everyone. 03:20 -!- flooded [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:24 -!- test_ [~flooded@146.70.202.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:41 < alethkit> Gutentag! 03:42 < nsh> moinmoin 04:23 -!- Jay_Dugger [~jaydu@oki-180-131-253-206.jptransit.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:31 < hprmbridge> kanzure> @mechasense: thanks again for posting that mechanosynthesis manuscript. 04:32 < hprmbridge> kanzure> oops, I mean @mechadense 04:49 < hprmbridge> alethkit> There was a mechanosynthesis manuscript? 04:52 < hprmbridge> alethkit> Do you mean https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5269651/ ? 04:55 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:57 < hprmbridge> mechadense> This one: 04:57 < hprmbridge> mechadense> https://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/prechem.3c00011 04:57 < hprmbridge> mechadense> Am a bit busy right now, may comment later … 05:18 -!- popeye [~jaydu@oki-180-131-253-206.jptransit.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:18 -!- popeye [~jaydu@oki-180-131-253-206.jptransit.net] has quit [Client Quit] 06:30 -!- test_ [~flooded@146.70.202.67] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:33 -!- flooded [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:36 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2601:5c4:c780:6aa0:e5a5:a574:6f3d:ffd3] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:21 < hprmbridge> jasoncrawford> Quote quiz: who said this? (No fair looking it up). I have modified the original quotation slightly, by making a handful of word substitutions to bring it up to date: 08:21 < hprmbridge> jasoncrawford> 08:21 < hprmbridge> jasoncrawford> “It might be argued that the human race would never be foolish enough to hand over all power to AI. But we are suggesting neither that the human race would voluntarily turn power over to AI nor that AI would willfully seize power. What we do suggest is that the human race might easily permit itself to drift into a position of such dependence on AI that it would have no practical choice but to 08:21 < hprmbridge> jasoncrawford> accept all of the AI’s decisions. As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and as AI becomes more and more intelligent, people will let AI make more and more of their decisions for them, simply because AI-made decisions will bring better results than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so 08:21 < hprmbridge> jasoncrawford> complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the AI will be in effective control. People won’t be able to just turn the AI off, because they will be so dependent on it that turning it off would amount to suicide.” 08:23 < hprmbridge> lachlan> That’s gotta be from the 60s or 70s 08:27 -!- pharonix71 [~pharonix7@user/pharonix71] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:32 < hprmbridge> jasoncrawford> not quite… although IMO definitely inspired by / derivative of countercultural writing from that time 09:57 -!- cthlolo [~lorogue@77.33.23.154.dhcp.fibianet.dk] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:18 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has left #hplusroadmap [] 10:38 -!- Muaddib [muaddib@pasky.or.cz] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:24 -!- test_ is now known as _flood 11:25 < alethkit> Hawking? 11:51 < muurkha> I've seen it before but I forget who wrote it 11:51 < muurkha> maybe an SSC comment 11:54 -!- cthlolo [~lorogue@77.33.23.154.dhcp.fibianet.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:20 -!- Gooberpatrol66 [~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:23 < hprmbridge> Perry> who? 12:23 < alethkit> Gwern? 12:24 < alethkit> Stanislaw Lem? 12:56 -!- pharonix71 [~pharonix7@user/pharonix71] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:57 -!- pharonix71 [~pharonix7@user/pharonix71] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:58 -!- juri_ [~juri@84-19-175-179.pool.ovpn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:59 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.114.190] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:18 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.114.190] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:24 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.114.190] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:46 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:48 < hprmbridge> yashgaroth> I'll admit I cheated, but I wouldn't have guessed right. I only read the source years ago 13:57 -!- Llamamoe [~Llamamoe@46.204.64.48.nat.umts.dynamic.t-mobile.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:00 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.114.190] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:01 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.114.190] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:02 < hprmbridge> Perry> @jasoncrawford May I say? 14:07 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.114.190] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:21 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 14:21 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:06 < hprmbridge> Eli> I know who it is. Only because I recently watched the movie. 15:57 -!- flooded [~flooded@146.70.127.243] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:00 -!- _flood [~flooded@146.70.202.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:32 -!- juri_ [~juri@217.138.194.165] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:00 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has quit [Quit: 1483 :trick or treat! 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