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03:24 < alethkit> oh, I did not realise 0.3 mm pencils were a thing
03:24 < alethkit> I think I have 0.5mm pencils, but don't bother having super dense notes
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03:32 < nsh> pencils of skew parallels
03:32 < L29Ah> alethkit: there are 0.1mm pens
03:38 < nsh> "research assistant" - https://elicit.org/
03:52 < alethkit> Has Perry tried out https://yudbot.com ?
03:52 < alethkit> nsh: Oh, I might have to try that
03:53 < nsh> let me know how it goes :)
04:00 < L29Ah> nict
04:00 < L29Ah> nice
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04:02 < L29Ah> damn it's kinda dumb and repeating itself
04:02 < L29Ah> > You're talking about simulating the world's atmosphere, which is an incredibly complex system. One mistake, one miscalculation, and you could end up causing a global catastrophe. 
04:16 < alethkit> L29Ah: I feel like it's more of a combined Yud-Gebru
04:16 < alethkit> it's complaining about near-term AI risks as well
04:20 < nsh> one things that's fun to do is take one out of tune broken accordian and then stitch its bellows to another broken out of tune accordian
04:20 < nsh> and then you can have all the benefits of two wheezebags for the squeezing of one
04:25 < alethkit> I'm now annoyed, and just want to run the guy's API credit out
04:26 < alethkit> If this is how Perry sees Yudkowsky, no wonder the snark on twiter
04:59 < muurkha> L29Ah: do the 0.1mm pens make 0.1mm lines on normal paper?
05:05 < L29Ah> i don't know
05:19 < muurkha> my experience is that pens with very fine points usually have very low visscosity ink, which spreads out in the paper to make a line that's about 0.6 mm wide
05:20 < muurkha> also usually it's water-based
05:20 < muurkha> and not indelible
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08:35 < docl> in case anyone is bored today, I'm thinking about how one would build a gigantic antarctic ice structure
08:44 < docl> we'd be exploiting some weather steering mechanisms to grow the glacier upward. a 1000km wide square base gives you a 10^6 km^2 in area. So every 1 km upward you make it, you take 10^6 km^3 of water from the hydrosphere. oceans are 3.6 x 10^8 km^2 so this much water sequetration drops it by about 3 meters. by making it 1000km tall, you get a nice space structure to catch and spit satellites from, and 
08:44 < docl> sea level drops by about 3km
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08:50 < kanzure> you could just calve an existing glacier and transport it around
09:02 < docl> hmm. iceberg / ice floe engineering probably deserves its own treatment. thermal leaks to the water become less relevant at a certain scale
09:07 < docl> it doesn't have the advertised sealevel dropping properties if it's floating though. needs to push against the ground or ocean floor for that
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10:56 < muurkha> docl: neat
10:57 < muurkha> I think you would have to add ice to the top of the 1000km structure pretty fast to reach 1000km tall; ice is pretty plastic at terrestrial temperatuers, which is how glaciers work
10:57 < muurkha> you're certainly right about pushing against the ground
11:12 < jrayhawk> https://www.semianalysis.com/p/google-we-have-no-moat-and-neither? is this why altman is giving up on $100m training runs for the time being?
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