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02:30 < stipa> https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/05/16/3-russian-hypersonic-missile-scientists-jailed-for-treasoncolleagues-say-a81155
02:53 < stipa> fenn: use linux
02:54 < stipa> although it's being breached from various sides by capitalistic entities but it's pretty much still secure
02:55 < fenn> read the context article kthx
02:57 < fenn> requiring licenses makes a lot of sense in the context of "we have no moat and neither does OpenAI"
02:57 < fenn> it's the single most effective thing they could do to hamper open source development, their main competition
02:58 < stipa> that problematic was popular a few months ago on libera
02:59 < fenn> election interference is already illegal; the smaller crime of developing an AI without a license won't stop anyone from committing the larger crime of interfering with an election or whatever
02:59 < stipa> that article is just a very poor understanding of it
02:59 < stipa> AI is a tool
03:00 < stipa> if thinks it'll help him i elections he can use it
03:00 < stipa> if someone*
03:01 < stipa> but personally i think it can't compete with cognitive abilities of humans that can promote and execute participation in an election
03:02 < stipa> it's ok for not so well funded political competitors, but cheap is cheap after all 
03:05 < stipa> it could be the other way around
03:05 < stipa> well funded political parties could flock what could be a bad investment 
03:06 < stipa> the best way is both
03:06 < stipa> well funded and heavy ass trained AI
03:06 < stipa> in that case, poor parties lose
03:06 < stipa> as always even if they have access to the AI
03:08 < stipa> and no money
03:10 < stipa> the bright side of it is AI politics
03:10 < stipa> so, politicians in that case are going to be replaced by machines
03:11 < stipa> as other types of workforce
03:11 < stipa> which is a saving
03:27 < stipa> what you get is automated world, extreme poverty and technocrats
03:28 < stipa> keeping everyone poor just enough to keep itself running
03:29 < stipa> that's practically AI domination
03:29 < stipa> and it has already begun
03:31 < stipa> dumb politicians are competing who'll have better AI on their side
03:31 < stipa> just adding fule on the fire
03:31 < stipa> fuel*
03:33 < stipa> so, the headline of that article in that case could be a fact
03:34 < stipa> IMO, licences and regulations of AI won't help much
03:36 < stipa> it's pretty common nowadays to use A in design of new/future porducts
03:38 < stipa> you've got neural nets baked into some SOCs
03:38 < stipa> like apple M stuff etc.
03:40 < stipa> https://github.com/hollance/neural-engine
03:47 < stipa> so, you can write software and launch products to the market without issues
03:48 < stipa> judging by the popularity of AI there'll be a bunch of cools software
03:49 < stipa> innovations, etc...
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06:18 < nsh> kanzure, do you still have a big archive of papers?
06:18 < nsh> this recast tool that uses LLM to convert articles (including pdf papers) into dialogues might be good to apply for listening fodder: https://www.letsrecast.ai/
06:20 < nsh> bing actually being used for the arxiv example, dunno if that's what recast uses
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07:09 < kanzure> molecular assemblies on a podcast https://pod.co/sbb-podcast/faster-better-and-cheaper-the-elusive-dna-triad-now-a-reality-with-mike-kamdar-phil-paik
07:16 < kanzure> releasing a podcast without a transcript should be considered rude
07:20 < kanzure> they outsourced all their tdt work to codexis? then what's the point of molecular assemblies?
07:31 < kanzure> podcasts are really unbearable at less than 2x, wow. is this what you people live with?
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08:56 < nsh> doesn't help that a lot of people feel the need to express the same exact thing in two slightly different wordings almost consecutively because their minds dither
08:57 < nsh> an 'intelligent' information-condensing audio editing system would be a good adjunct to naive speedup
08:58 < nsh> should be pretty much doable now with transcription language models 
09:00 < nsh> which makes me realise a great advantage to running models locally is that you could in principle instrument the active weight clusters for sequences of tokens and thus construe some kind of (meta)conceptual space and then constellate and aligning segments of (transcribed) text 
09:00 < nsh> which would be a very nice to enrich indexing 
09:00 < nsh> +way
09:12 < kanzure> you could use deepfake and LLMs to take their podcast audio, do a summary, and then make the fake voice say the same thing more concisely and in a smarter way
10:37 < hprmbridge> nmz787> I think the vectorization thing in langchain that I was thinking of was "embeddings" https://pub.towardsai.net/demystifying-ai-for-everyone-part-2-nlp-vectorization-3d17b6b0a578
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11:11 < hprmbridge> kanzure> If YouTube is going to be deleting old videos, then we should search through the channel logs and find all the YouTube links and back those videos up. It's not clear to me if this is their intention but some speculation out there.
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12:48 < muurkha> they already did something like that with 'unlisted' videos
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13:15 < kanzure> hm okay, maybe should be taken a little bit more seriously
13:15 < kanzure> especially high  view count videos from dormant accounts from 10+ years ago
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17:06 < fenn> looks like sophie lee isn't going to be reading any emails from dad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhPklt9nYas
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19:09 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://twitter.com/Synthego/status/1658963404466298888
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21:43 < fenn> one down, eleven billion to go
21:43 < fenn> eleven million*
21:46 < fenn> "Patents in force worldwide grew by 5.9% to reach around 15.9 million in 2020"
21:49 < muurkha> ugh
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