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01:57 < lkcl> lol https://cointelegraph.com/news/april-fools-sees-toilet-paper-token-in-short-supply-on-coinmarketcap
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08:32 < hprmbridge> nmz787> fenn that linear screw/gear is really neat!
09:21 < hprmbridge> jaisel> curious about this; outside of nuclear/biogenetics/nanotech and aerospace. what are the major hardware industries that you guys are looking forward to seeing? (Robotics encompasses all of these in a way)
09:28 < muurkha> nmz787__: it is really neat
09:59 < muurkha> Henry Segerman has done a lot of really nice mechanical stuff
10:02 < muurkha> jaisel: solar energy, geothermal energy, undersea cities, terraforming, mining, 3-D printing, AI
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15:17 < fenn> once you've maxed out nuke/bio/nano/aero you've pretty much got it made, but you can keep going...
15:18 < fenn> space megastructures, antimatter economy, black hole engineering, interstellar travel, stasis pods, hacking the matrix, infinite computation
15:21 < fenn> every citizen should have the opportunity to broadcast their complete mind-state on self-replicating spores sent out of the galaxy at a high enough fraction of the speed of light that they'll get to another galaxy before cosmic inflation sends it past the horizon
15:22 < fenn> anything less is mismanagement of resources :P
15:23 < fenn> whether things like AB matter can exist is something i'm not qualified to speculate about
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15:25 < fenn> really you should just poke around on https://orionsarm.com/
15:30 < fenn> oh yeah atom holography is a fun one
15:35 < fenn> "instead of having a rocky core holding on to an atmospheric envelope one would have a core cell of gas that is massive enough to halt its own expansion through self-gravitation. The gravity field of this core cell of gas would attract the shell/hull of the habitat ... an earth standard atmospheric mix and temperature would be at Eder's calculated equilibrium if it were approximately 68,000
15:35 < fenn> kilometres across."
15:36 < fenn> er, that's not right
15:38 < fenn> if you use hydrogen as the fill gas, the diameter is 500,000 km, for about 6000x the surface area of earth
15:58 < fenn> (in 1999) "Austrian researchers passed a collimated beam of carbon-60 molecules through a silicon-nitride diffraction grating and detected the interference pattern by ionizing the molecules using a laser and counting the number of ions produced. The grating contained 50 nm wide slits that were separated by 100 nm. The team clearly observed the central maximum and the two first-order diffraction
15:58 < fenn> peaks of the pattern."
15:58 < fenn> "Arndt and co-workers expect that their methods can be extended to even larger macromolecules, and maybe even viruses, to probe the fuzzy boundary between quantum and classical physics."
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16:28 < hprmbridge> kanzure> It sure would be nice if we had a backup of Orion's arm.
16:39 < fenn> um
16:39  * fenn looks around shiftily
16:40 < fenn> why would you say it that way?
16:52 < fenn> it would be nice if orion's arm were widely distributed and backed up highly redundantly
16:54 < muurkha> Orion may object if you start trying to dissect his arm
17:03 < hprmbridge> kanzure> I said it that way in the hopes of encouraging such a backup
20:05 < SDr> poet chatgpt: In wordplay's cryptic nation, / Sayings hash the truth's foundation, / Yet within their brief narration, / Proof of work is found in rhyme's creation.
21:50 < fenn> your rhyming couplets must hash to a number starting with 6 zeroes to make it past my spam filter
22:06 < hprmbridge> kanzure> is
22:06 < hprmbridge> kanzure> is the idea that if someone thought it was worthwhile enough to put some hash rate and proof of work behind it, then the text is less likely to be completely garbage? And this is a little bit better than a web of trust because anyone can independently validate the difficulty of the proof of work or validates the proof of work is correct
22:40 < fenn> i'm just thinking that an AI can generate merely rhyming text at a prodigious rate already, but if the rhyming text has an additional constraint it will take more computation and thus be more costly to generate
22:41 < fenn> coming up with rhyming text was much more difficult before computers
22:42 < fenn> probably that's what chatgpt "meant" - the act of putting in the effort to make the words rhyme showed that you had tried
22:46 < fenn> In ciphered tongues, the jesters dance, / Cryptic riddles, truth's romance, / Woven webs of words entwined, / Opaque enigmas, meanings confined.
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