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13:10 < lkcl> pencils.
13:10 < lkcl> pencils are dual-use.
13:10 < lkcl> you could use them to write instructions that cause people to die.
13:10 < lkcl> or you could stab them with it :)
13:10 < lkcl> therefore all pencils are military weapons and must be restricted.
13:12 < hprmbridge> msnewgooty> yeah i thought this was going to be a Dark Knight reference
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15:42 < muurkha> lkcl: yeah, it's totally plausible to imagine a division losing a battle because they ran low on pencils
15:43 < muurkha> but in fairness there are perfectly adequate substitutes, so they'd probably just use pens or feathers dipped in ink or burnt sticks or something
15:44 < muurkha> so I don't think pencils really qualify as dual-use in that sense
15:45 < muurkha> I have an even harder time concocting a scenario where the outcome of a battle turns on the availability of office chairs, amigurumis, bongs, tamagotchis, dextromethorphan, mylar tweeters, fiberglass paddles, dye sublimation presses, dental flossers, soft drinks, wingsuits, Tilt hydrometers for homebrewing, kidney transplants, green fluorescent yogurt, origami cranes, high-productivity avocado 
15:45 < muurkha> cultivars, latex-free condoms, foof chairs, indoor waterfalls, most video games, most aspects of nail polish, cordless non-cellular phones, or smart TVs
15:45 < muurkha> I still want to know which one L29Ah thinks HPMOR's Harry Potter would disagree about
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16:06 < kanzure> hmm "At Melonfrost, we are unleashing the full potential of synthetic biology by replacing genetic scalpels with a predictive evolution steering platform."
16:06 < kanzure> melonfrost would be a good name for a cryonics company
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16:15 < L29Ah> muurkha: one could stick a dental flosser in someone's eye, drown someone in soft drink, strangle someone with a wingsuit and so on
16:17 < L29Ah> you can see the list of things that Israel restricts Gaza from importing
16:17 < L29Ah> it includes things like thick pipes
16:45 < muurkha> L29Ah: I have a hard time imagining dental flossers or soft drinks as being better than other alternatives.  Gaza is a concentration camp; they're forbidden from importing many things for reasons that go beyond any plausible military strategy
16:50 < L29Ah> thick pipes are used to make rockets that even manage to kill someone once in a while
16:51 < L29Ah> and dental flossers or soft drinks are good alternatives when not much else is available
16:56 < muurkha> I don't think there's ever been a battle in history which was won with dental flossers or soft drinks, or whose outcome depended on dental flosser availability
16:56 < muurkha> rockets, yes.  though not the rather pathetic ones Gaza has been turning out
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