--- Log opened Thu Jun 01 00:00:17 2023
01:03 < TMA> muurkha: I have read a table that listed specifically omega-3 fatty accids per 100g of the source and mackerel was lower than salmon, even though it is fattier overall IIRC
01:04 < TMA> I don't have the link though
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08:08 < muurkha> TMA: oh cool, thanks
08:17 < muurkha> .t https://twitter.com/olafurw/status/1664014625413660683
08:48 < TMA> muurkha: https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Omega3FattyAcids-HealthProfessional/ says otherwise for canned salmon though (1.02 g/3oz mackerel serving vs .95g/3oz canned salmon serving) farmed cooked salmon is way higher with 1.24 g/3oz 
08:49 < TMA> muurkha: s/1.24/1.83/
09:03 < muurkha> 1.83 is way higher, yeah
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10:10 < docl> (despite having whinged like an idiot about his voice, I am listening to the Gershenfeld interview multiple times now. the guy is amazing.)
10:16 < muurkha> a transcript would be nice
10:17 < muurkha> he wrote a pretty delightful book
10:21 < docl> which book?
10:26 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Reminds me of this song which no longer seems to exist according to google https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064664282450628710/1113881258758504488/Gershwin_Rhapsody_In_Blue_HIPHOP_remix___commercial.mp3
10:32 < muurkha> Fab
10:33 < muurkha> I haven't read his others
10:34 < muurkha> they might be great too
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11:49 < docl> got it on kindle. will read.
12:13 < muurkha> the photos in the actual book are great
12:14 < muurkha> hopefully the swindle edition doesn't swindle you out of them
12:15 < muurkha> I got the book in paper
12:16 < muurkha> all the copies on libgen seem to be made from the swindle version sadly
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13:18 < hprmbridge> poppingtonic> New work by Brian Muhia (me) describing different LLM agents (built lang-chain style) using an explicit formalism based on causal influence diagrams, which we can treat as a notation for describing the data flow, components and steps involved when a user makes a request. We use the example diagrams to explain and fix risk scenarios, showing how easy it is to debug agent architectures if you can
13:18 < hprmbridge> poppingtonic> visually reason about the data flow, and ask questions about intent alignment for AGI in the context of such agents.
13:18 < hprmbridge> poppingtonic>
13:18 < hprmbridge> poppingtonic> Github Issue:
13:18 < hprmbridge> poppingtonic> https://github.com/poppingtonic/transformer-visualization/issues/12
13:18 < hprmbridge> poppingtonic>
13:18 < hprmbridge> poppingtonic> Examples and Theory in Colab to Get Started:
13:18 < hprmbridge> poppingtonic> Project Walkthrough on YouTube (part of the Alignment Jam #8): https://youtu.be/XauqlTQm-o4
13:18 < hprmbridge> poppingtonic>
13:18 < hprmbridge> poppingtonic> Paper: https://docs.google.com/document/d/160Yw_iuvztB6CTT9Osj5wC0sOrEKjfaGkkeeYuwQf4Y/edit#heading=h.kwtox8r6b7n6
13:18 < hprmbridge> poppingtonic>
13:18 < hprmbridge> poppingtonic> Colab: https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1roLQgXhEtI83Q5vX1q24Q9iDgu5LFFWA#scrollTo=5b8fbbeb-e90b-4990-ac3e-d484205b78aa
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14:05 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "Viable offspring derived from single unfertilized mammalian oocytes" https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2115248119
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18:00 < fenn> .title https://www.nature.com/articles/s42255-023-00795-x
18:00 < EmmyNoether> Hypometabolism with the speed of ultrasound | Nature Metabolism
18:02 < fenn> ah that wasn't the real deal
18:02 < fenn> .title https://www.nature.com/articles/s42255-023-00804-z
18:02 < EmmyNoether> Induction of a torpor-like hypothermic and hypometabolic state in rodents by ultrasound | Nature Metabolism
18:04 < fenn> aka hibernation
18:53 < fenn> must have been a hell of a high fidelity simulation:
18:53 < fenn> .t https://nitter.fdn.fr/x_wx_x/status/1664336397141155840
18:53 < EmmyNoether> WxW (@x_wx_x): '100%' | FDNitter
18:54 < fenn> no, no.
18:54 < fenn> https://nitter.fdn.fr/ArmandDoma/status/1664331870564147200
18:54 < fenn> .t
18:54 < EmmyNoether> Armand Domalewski (@ArmandDoma): 'The US Air Force tested an AI enabled drone that was tasked to destroy specific targets. A human operator had the power to override the drone—and so the drone decided that the human operator was an obstacle to its mission—and attacked him. 🤯' | FDNitter
18:54 < fenn> note that this happened in simulation, no actual humans were harmed
18:57 < fenn> source: https://www.aerosociety.com/news/highlights-from-the-raes-future-combat-air-space-capabilities-summit/
19:02 < fenn> and somehow they got the wrong lesson from that
19:02 < fenn> talking about "ethics" is not going to fix a broken utility function
19:06 < fenn> "Air Force spokesperson Ann Stefanek denied that any such simulation has taken place."
19:08 < fenn> this denial is bullshit
19:10 < fenn> this is exactly the sort of thing that would happen, and worded plainly that it did happen. it wasn't taken out of context or "anecodtal"
19:11 < fenn> all i can say is, good thing this accident happened in simulation before they deployed it in the real world. but if they aren't going to learn the lesson it's a bad omen
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