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05:13 < fenn> hmm. i can shrink the storage cost of each additional individual's SNP genotype file by 5x by storing only the deltas with xdelta3. this is probably mostly the list of rsIDs
05:14 < fenn> the files are too big (20MB uncompressed) to co-compress with xz, but maybe there are other compression algorithms that do this automatically
05:14 < fenn> after delta and xz it's only 800kB per additional human 23andme or ancestry.com data
05:15 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "more neglect by new owner than malice or intentional dysfunction" on snpedia
05:15 < fenn> i figured as much
05:15 < fenn> they haven't returned my mail
05:17 < fenn> heh https://opensnp.org/ has a "download everything" button right on the front page, a 50GB download
05:17 < fenn> seems misguided
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05:54 < jrayhawk> 7z and rar are designed to do that sort of thing
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06:08 < uzkruh> In the case of WWIII, how feasible would hiding a seed population of gene-optimized humans in a bunker be? Restart civilization from a stronger foundation?
06:09 < uzkruh> Assuming civilization CAN be rebuilt; some say the raw materials and fuel have been exhausted, making Attempt 2 impossible
06:10 < fenn> this is a very open ended question
06:13 < fenn> hmm 7z actually does better than delta + xz
06:15 < fenn> and 7z(reference + original) is smaller than 7z(reference + delta)
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06:29 < fenn> uzkruh the raw materials haven't gone anywhere, and nuclear power has barely been attempted so far
06:31 < fenn> it's much easier to mine ruins than raw ore
06:33 < uzkruh> The idea is that we don't have enough oil to set up the supply chain for nuclear.
06:34 < fenn> that's a silly idea
06:35 < fenn> how are you going to even set up the supply chain for oil with that mindset?
06:35 < uzkruh> It's just something I've heard
06:55 < uzkruh> How do we prevent the upper class from speciating into a genetic Noble clade, and keeping transhuman advancements for themselves?
06:56 < hprmbridge> kanzure> by applying genetic engineering to yourself and your children anyway.
06:56 < docl> hack together an open source selfmod kit
06:56 < hprmbridge> kanzure> it's not that expensive.
06:56 < uzkruh> What if it's made illegal?
06:56 < docl> then only the criminals will have mods
06:56 < hprmbridge> kanzure> that's a personal choice you will have to make.
06:59 < fenn> meatfucker has entered the chat
07:00 < uzkruh> Um
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07:55 < TMA> about the only bottleneck I foresee is that people will lose interest in rebuilding civilization before it is rebuilt. 
08:02 < muurkha> fenn: I feel that "meatfucker" is a reference to a Culture novel or something?
08:07 < docl> might be better to build a different one than rebuild the existing hodgepodge 
09:51  * nsh blinks
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12:40 < hprmbridge> kanzure> .gpt Recite the litany against fear from dune. All on one line.
12:42 < L29Ah> boring
12:42 < hprmbridge> kanzure> the failure is kind of interesting.
12:43 < hprmbridge> kanzure> it seems to output a stop token after "fear".
12:43 < hprmbridge> kanzure> but to each their own!
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12:49 < L29Ah> Wizard-Vicuna-13B-Uncensored-HF/ggml-model-q4_0.bin succeeded
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13:00 < muurkha> what failure?
13:04 < L29Ah> discord failure perhaps
14:17 < hprmbridge> w. portr> you ever thought about innovating retail liquor stores?
14:50 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://twitter.com/michael_nielsen/status/1670155665762058240
15:17 < muurkha> uzkruh: fucking them might be an option
15:18 < muurkha> but I agree it won't be that expensive
15:19 < muurkha> aha, meatfucker: https://ultimatepopculture.fandom.com/wiki/GCU_Grey_Area
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23:53 < fenn> "Within the Culture, undue intimacy between the Culture's Minds and its human members was seen as akin to bestiality."
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