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02:47 <+gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=f04144b6 fenn: more delicious text for the exobrain >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/eugene-podkletnov-gravity-manipulation-2004/
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04:56 < hprmbridge> jkhales> This guy is live tweeting a repro attempt: https://twitter.com/andrewmccalip/status/1684433849781202944
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08:39 < hprmbridge> nmz787> https://twitter.com/fasc1nate/status/1683883774743048192
08:39 < hprmbridge> nmz787> A nanobot picks up a sperm by the tail and inseminates an egg with it, by the German Institute for Integrative Nanosciences.
08:41 < fenn> microbot
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12:30 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2023/7/27/23808920/gene-dna-synthesis-biotechnology-pandemic-viruses-twist-bioscience-pathogens-ginkgo-bioworks
12:31 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "Enter the Securing Gene Synthesis Act, introduced this month in the Senate by Ed Markey (D-MA) and in the House by Rep. Anna Eshoo (CA-16)." mandating gene synthesis order screening.
12:33 < L29Ah> the second paragraph of the text suggests the article author has no clue of the thing one is writing about
12:35 < L29Ah> and the third is just a lie: US companies are forbidden to deal with North Korea and are punished when they knowingly do
12:54 < docl> am I right in reading the superconductor papers as implying you need to use a thin film? or does it allegedly superconduct in bulk samples, and they just needed to make it a film to be able to test it better or something
12:58 < docl> .t https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12008
12:58 < docl> .t https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12037
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14:56 < hprmbridge> nmz787> docl probably just using the thin film to test the alloy, since it allows precise control at that scale of fabrication
14:57 < hprmbridge> nmz787> i.e. if you just created more and more thin film layers, eventually it would get to be a thick film then bulk... but possibly would take like, forever
15:58 < docl> well if each layer is 7 mA and this means you can drive 7 kA with a million layers, could be worth it
16:00 < docl> this article interprets it as 2D electron gas. https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/breaking-superconductor-news
16:04 < docl> (well, my guess would be that a million layer system probably gets limited more by magnetic saturation so it can't drive that kind of current realistically)
16:08 < docl> .tw https://twitter.com/andrewmccalip/status/1684700783852556288
16:08 < docl> https://www.docdroid.net/UiUrs8c/kci-fi002955269-1-pdf
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17:31 < docl> seems reasonably likely you could produce lead-copper apatite films via electrodeposition
17:32 < docl> perhaps put lead apatite on one side of stainless foil and copper on the other side, then press a stack of them together
17:32 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> If this pans out I guess diyhpl.us will be swarming with work to do DIY production
17:32 < docl> yeah
17:33 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Films by electrodeposition seems viable, the grail would be making bulk lk99
17:33 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> I wonder what conditions you need to grow artificial lead ap crystals
17:34 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> I was looking at some stuff on growing artificial quartz a while back, prolly similar equipment
17:34 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> High temperature pressure vessels don't come cheap tho
17:41 < docl> hmm, with the Pb/Cu causing different bond lengths I'm not sure the effect would necessarily work in a bulk version. but maybe it's a different story if you grow the crystals under pressure
17:41 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Yeah I'm not sure either, would be cool though. Want me solid nuggets of room temperature super conductors
17:42 < docl> yeah for sure
17:42 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> On a serious note even with thin films there's some much that this opens up if true
17:44 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> For military use you've got gauss cannons becoming more viable along with possible applications for e-bombs. Energy you've got storage and transmission. If it works at nanoscale you could make roomtemp reversible computers
17:45 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> That last one is particularly interesting, even if it only works at micron scale you can more easily stack reversible circuits
17:49 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Nah I'm really hopeful but skeptical on this, hope it all pans out
17:51 < docl> well with machine phase nanotech you could probably make superconductors by pressurizing small veins of say lanthinum hydride. you could also do reversible compute with rod logic
17:53 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> True internal stresses properly engineered are nothing to sneeze at.
17:53 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> I never really liked rodlogic all that much though, perfect for bridging the mechanical control and computation gap but if I had proper nanotech I'd instead be you going for molecular quantum dot cellular automata. Fully reversible and possible to get thz clock speeds
17:54 < TMA> why the 24 year gap though? LK99 has 99 because it was first synthetized in 1999
18:16 < docl> apparently they published in 2020 but nature decided to reject it because someone else made a claim which was falsified. still that's a big gap
18:16 < docl> per wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LK-99
18:22 < docl> I bet against eliezer (I think 20% is too low, not sure by how much) https://manifold.markets/QuantumObserver/will-the-lk99-room-temp-ambient-pre
18:22 < L29Ah> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LK-99 wikipedia goes brrr
18:23 < L29Ah> oops
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21:50 < hprmbridge> Eli> Are science prediction markets just total horsecrap? Haven’t many of the Nobel prizes been for things that 99% of scientists thought were garbage? Thomas Kuhn proved this in the 50s. What I’m trying to say is that, “how are prediction markets going to lead us to truth?”
21:51 < hprmbridge> Eli> Or is the point just to take money from greater fools?
22:38 < fenn> seems like merely a way to inject stress and adrenaline into doing scholarly research, for people who like that sort of thing
22:40 < fenn> it's rare that a single scientific question (that will definitely be resolved quickly) has such a large potential effect on many large industries
22:41 < fenn> since people are betting with play money (and apparently getting stressed over it) there must be some other reason than taking money from fools
23:05 < jrayhawk> https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/impact-market-mini-grants-update is an interesting model
23:10 < hprmbridge> kanzure> what about the one where you give a grant to a person to allocate, and then you re-invest in good allocators based on successful outcomes or metrics you pick. was this one ever named?
23:11 < fenn> isn't that capitalism
23:18 < fenn> oh i see, there's a third party deciding the metrics, separate from the investor
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23:30 < fenn> .title https://www.komar.org/faq/colorado-cataract-surgery-crystalens/ultra-violet-color-glow/
23:30 < fenn> .t
23:30 < fenn> no bots eh
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23:36 < fenn> i've seen the purple colored black clothing in sunlight but i assumed it was IR
23:36 < fenn> sort of brownish purple
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