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01:26 < fenn> starship OLM deluge testing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqes7A7Ipns
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03:10 < fenn> "now witness the spray of this fully pressurized and operational water deluge system" https://nitter.nl/SpaceX/status/1685043032616509440 
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06:41 < hprmbridge> kanzure>  https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064664282450628710/1134843203359612948/image0.jpg
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07:38 < L29Ah> .t https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/michaelcoudrey/status/1685266481389404160?s=52&t=8iW1QGGu89N7g39Gq4QmDw
07:47 < fenn> cool
07:47 < fenn> "what prompted this investigation was a simple garden hose that was illegally attached and coming out of a wall in the back of the building."
07:48 < fenn> "What was supposed to be an empty building used only for storage was home to a black-market type of lab testing facility."
07:48 < fenn> stupid cops can't read the labels on the chemical bottles
07:50 < fenn> thank god they have taken swift action to maintain public safety and protect us from infectious agents such as E. coli
08:15 < hprmbridge> kanzure> how do they tell the mice were engineered?
08:17 < fenn> labels on the cages i guess
09:14 < muurkha> illegally attached garden hoses!
09:14 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> I'm looking forward to when this hits the main news cycle
09:14 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> but seriously wtf
09:15 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Imagine what the poor coppers reaction was "this ain't a meth lab... who the fuck do we call" is how I see the conversation going
09:15 < muurkha> heh
09:15 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> whatever you say about police, they really don't deserve to end up in the middle of a shady biolab that doesn't look very well maintained to me
09:16 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Also noticed you get very little results on google but duckduckgo gives you a bunch of links to reporting news sites
09:17 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Can't wait to see how Fox and CNN both react to this
09:18 < muurkha> well, they were the ones who decided to go in, weren't they?
09:18 < muurkha> the lab folks didn't invite them
09:19 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> True, but it wasn't supoosed to be a lab. However you look at it this is shady as fuck
09:21 < muurkha> I'm pretty sure the folks who worked there intended it to be a lab
09:21 < muurkha> it's unsurprising that when science is outlawed you get outlaws doing science
09:22 < muurkha> the US and especially California is pretty far down the road to burning alchemists as witches again
09:23 < muurkha> you can't even buy xylene there anymore
09:24 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> I agree on that, but if you are a forign company don't setup a clandestine lab in somewhere that doesn't want unregistered labs. I'd be more sympathetic if it was some DIY biohacker like someone from this group, even if they had ebola virus on ice in their lab freezer.
09:26 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> My main worry atm is that this will cause public sentiment to shift toward even more authoritarian controls on research
09:28 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> But this lab was grosely irresponsible from what I can tell, some lab safety regulations are dumb government nannying but many aren't
09:38 < L29Ah> more pics needed
09:38 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Yeah i'd like more information but I expect this to get swallowed up into a national security blackhole asap
09:41 < muurkha> alonzoc: places don't want things, people want things, and in any place there is a diversity of people wanting different, conflicting things
09:41 < muurkha> I agree that lab safety is very important
09:42 < muurkha> it sounds like the stuff they had wasn't that dangerous, most of it not dangerous at all
09:44 < hprmbridge> Katylase> Talking about lab safety, did you know that on August 14th, it will be 27 years since the Wetterhahn Incident?
09:45 < muurkha> ooh!  how do we celebrate?
09:45  * L29Ah doesn't recommend working with heavy-metal-organics
09:46 < muurkha> maybe we could drip organic solvents on gloves or something
09:46 < L29Ah> not that it's very useful to H+ anyway...
09:46 < muurkha> like, malaria isn't contagious without anopheles mosquitoes, and most varieties of herpes are never fatal and also only very slightly contagious
09:46 < muurkha> and E. coli isn't even a pathogen (normally)
09:47 < muurkha> we could light candles in memory of Karen Wetterhahn or something
09:47 < muurkha> but maybe we could come up with a more appropriate memorial
09:48 < hprmbridge> Katylase> Not a good idea😅 but here's a drawing of Karen I made, you can share it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064664282450628710/1134890206550564996/IMG_2234.png
09:49 < muurkha> is that dimethyl sulfoxide?
09:49 < muurkha> no, can't be
09:49  * L29Ah lubricates muurkha with DMSO
09:49 < muurkha> no oxide!
09:49 < muurkha> that reminds me, I was thinking of applying topical anti-inflammatories...
09:49 < muurkha> too bad I'm in a restaurant
09:50 < hprmbridge> yashgaroth> dimethyl something...worse
09:51 < hprmbridge> Katylase> (his name is Merry, that might help...)
09:51 < jrayhawk> "Court documents say they failed to provide any licensing or permit that allows experimentation or other laboratory activity." "registered in Nevada and unlicensed for business in California" the news media cannot die fast enough
09:51 < muurkha> dimethylzinc?
09:52 < muurkha> "permit that allows experimentation" is a chilling Orwellian phrase
09:54 < hprmbridge> Katylase> (Mer||cu||ry)
09:59 < muurkha> dimethylzinc is still kind of dangerous apparently: "Inhalation of dimethylzinc mist or vapor causes immediate irritation of upper respiratory tract, and may cause pneumonia and death. Eyes are immediately and severely irritated and burned by liquid, vapor, or dilute solutions. If not removed by thorough flushing with water, this chemical may permanently damage cornea, eventually causing blindness. 
09:59 < muurkha> If dimethylzinc contacts with the skin, it gets thermal and acid burns, because this chemical reacts with moisture in skin. Unless washed quickly, skin may be scarred. Ingestion, while unlikely, causes immediate burns at site of contact. Nausea, vomiting, cramps, and diarrhea may follow. Tissues may ulcerate if not treated. Upon heating, it decomposes to irritating and toxic products."
09:59 < muurkha> so I'm not sure which dimethylsomething would be the only one of its kind who isn't dangerous!
10:01  * L29Ah recommends dimethyltryptamine
10:02 < muurkha> heh, I mean dimethyl-atom
10:10 < hprmbridge> Katylase> It's kind of fanfiction I made... After Karen spilled that dimethylsomething and fell fatally ill, one of the molecules named Merry felt sorry for what his kind caused. He became Karen's best friend, who will do anything to protect her...I hope they're happy, wherever they are...🥺(oh no, my eyes got wet...)
10:22 < muurkha> awww :-(
10:23 < muurkha> poor Merry couldn't save her :(
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12:43 < docl> .t https://www.intechopen.com/chapters/49413
12:43 < docl> is the bot down?
12:44 < docl> some open access stuff, electroplating of nanostructures
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16:28 < hprmbridge> jaisel> Thinking of picking up my first Asimov book today
16:28 < hprmbridge> jaisel> Should I start w the foundation series?
16:46 < hprmbridge> kanzure> yes Asimov foundation is a good place to start.
16:48 < hprmbridge> jaisel> @kanzure Asimov foundations, I robot or diamond age to start a sci fi obsession
16:48 < hprmbridge> kanzure> foundation
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16:53 < hprmbridge> jaisel> time to get myself a copy
16:59 < docl> fun asimov anecdote, he was hired to write the novelization of the fantastic voyage movie, but at first he didn't want to because people surviving at the nanoscale is such nonsense. he eventually caved and added a technobabble explanation about it being more akin to projecting an image than literal shrinking. he also fixed the plot hole about the submarine that gets lost and would have expanded to kill 
16:59 < docl> the patient, and the one about getting breathable air from the lungs. he also rewrite the political stuff to be more humanistic and added some depth to the villain
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17:09 < SDr|Canada> vancouver is _super nice_
17:13 < hprmbridge> jaisel> any plans to visit seattle?
17:13 < hprmbridge> jaisel> I’d love to meet some others while I’m here
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