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07:00 < docl> https://twitter.com/andrewmccalip/status/1687405505604734978 another tippy-toes result
07:36 < fenn> shiny
07:36 < hprmbridge> nyxtelius> Very shiny
07:36 < hprmbridge> nyxtelius> Implies it’s very conductive
07:36 < fenn> the future is blindingly bright
07:43 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Shiny rock
07:47 < fenn> "cant repel if magnetic field is parallel to the conductance axis" (?)
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07:48 < Jay_Dugger> Hello, everyone.
07:48 < fenn> morn
07:50 < fenn> note that those guys are still at work at 3 am
07:51 < Jay_Dugger> I applaud their endurance.
08:00 < fenn> another one reaching up from @szacilow https://nitter.nl/pic/orig/media%2FF2rAf9-WQAAZt1N.jpg
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08:46 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Does anyone know if D-Theanine has effects? Is it just not metabolised (my bet), or what
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08:57 < docl> https://twitter.com/instsondaw/status/1687433935012139008 levitating pellet, no contact to the magnet
09:17 < stipa> you've got enough time to change your mind
09:17 < stipa> docl: ^
09:17 < stipa> till saturday
09:42 < fenn> that pellet looks suspiciously like a cylindrical magnet with black goop on it
09:42 < fenn> not sure what game they're playing
09:44 < fenn> and if it's real, jesus fuck why can't you hold the camera still for more than 1 second
09:47 < L29Ah> caffeine overdose
09:47 < fenn> 3d print a camera stand
09:48 < L29Ah> i'm not a photographist or a e-thot, i'm a scientist, i don't need no camera stands!
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14:15 < docl> yeah the account with the pellet is new so take with a grain of salt. they also show a video where you can see under the magnet
14:18 < docl> they say they sorted by the powder by meissner effect and then pressed it in a hydraulic press
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14:30 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> I guess that's one way to do it
14:34 < L29Ah> so, who gets all them crazy high patent monies for the thing for the next 20 years that are barely lower enough to outcompete huge ass cryogenic cooling setups?
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14:35 < docl> a continuous flow process in (inert? low pressure?) gas might be doable. induction heat the crystals briefly and separate out any high meissner ones over time
14:36 < docl> IDK if it works to point to irc and twitter for prior art to block patent trolls, but I'm willing to try
14:44 < docl> once I've validated (or given up on) the electrodep based process, I think I'll try spray drying. picturing a pneumatic nozzle that pulls from a jug of solution. spray into a plastic bag. not sure a single solution works for this though given apatite's low solubility
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15:07 < fenn> twitter is a really bad archival medium
15:07 < fenn> i mean, it's not even twitter anymore, for one
15:11 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> There's an old blog that's trotted our every now and then saying "don't contribute knowledge to walled gardens like reddit and twitter because it'll be lost or held hostage", it got referenced a fuckton during the reddit tantrums because tons of technical answers were just hidden and google searching tech questions became problematic
15:12 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> It annoys me how short sighted people are about the platforms they use.
15:12 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Like I'm using discord, but that's mostly because I'm on my phone atm and my emacs irc config needs fixing. But I'm not tied to discord for my communication needs
15:13 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Like every community I care about has logs backed up if we want to preserve information
15:17 < hprmbridge> kanzure> let's archive the tweets linked in the logs
15:18 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Yeah y'all got irc bots so a simple twitter readout shouldn't be hard
15:18 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> And we won't run into musk's bs ratelimit
15:31 < superkuh> IRC bots are simple. HTTP is no longer HTTP for delivering HTML with text. It is a protocol for securely delivering authenticated applications to execute.
15:34 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> No library or minimal library IRC bot codegolf is always a fun one. Old school protocols are nice like that
15:35 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> The fact we use REST or websockets for everything these days is a pitty imo
15:37 < L29Ah> irc could use smarter design decisions tho
15:38 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Defenitely true. Tbh most protocols could do with some better design decisions
15:38 < L29Ah> like not using \n as delimiters and not having mandatory message length limit
15:39 < superkuh> The smartest design decision IRC made was freezing at "good enough".
15:40 < L29Ah> nah
15:42 < L29Ah> could definitely standardize more useful things like channel modes, logs and "services"
15:42 < superkuh> Strongly disagree. It should only be lists of IPs and sockets.
15:43 < L29Ah> and nowadays one ought to have a separate network-attached computer just to keep up with all the messages while being mobile
15:44 < superkuh> Just like if you have a broken leg in a cast you have to use crutches.
15:44 < superkuh> Mobile is inherently broken and limited.
15:45 < L29Ah> xmpp core froze at "good enough" "IRC++" and its extensions are quite kludgy because of that, especially the mobility-improving ones :<
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18:18 < muurkha> I wonder if you could have a useful IRC with a Kafka-like approach
18:19 < muurkha> nyxtelius: muscovite is an excellent insulator
18:21 < muurkha> I guess nostr is sort of like that?
18:24 < L29Ah> the dark future we're going into demand distributed p2p-encrypted pubkey-addressed protocols like tox
18:24 < muurkha> or freenet?
18:25  * L29Ah doesn't understand freenet
18:25 < muurkha> what I meant was that you could do all the session management in clients, maybe cryptographically
18:26 < muurkha> the server (message broker) just has to verify that a given request is authorized to read the log it's trying to read, or append to the log it's trying to append to
18:27 < muurkha> and doesn't have to track what clients exist, which messages they've gotten, who's been kicked or silenced, etc.
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