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01:49 < muurkha> I'm really enjoying this Wilson & Nicholson book about cement chemistry (mostly dental cements)
01:50 < muurkha> a thing I knew was that ionomer neutralization resulted in ionic cross-linking of the ionomer chains, forming a gel
01:50 < muurkha> examples include borax in PVA glue for toy slime and calcium coagulation of sodium alginate
01:50 < muurkha> but a thing I didn't know was that, even without cross-linking, ionomer conformation changes dramatically with pH; the ionomer chains straighten out as their charge is neutralized instead of being wadded up in a ball
01:50 < muurkha> and that seems like it might induce gelation entirely on its own (and there are indeed many ionomers, including lots of food gums, that exhibit pH-sensitive gelation behavior)
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05:51 < hprmbridge> Eli> Wired is a former tech magazine staffed by journalists
05:51 < hprmbridge> Eli> “Self-proclaimed “ might be a better term actually
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09:50 < docl> telling people they shouldn't reproduce because there are adoptable kids out there is uh, pretty inflammatory. govt shouldn't get free unpaid social services to cover up the current system's inadequacies by taking advantage of generous people like that. they should pay people to adopt, IMO
09:51 < docl> I suspect the headline writer was not the article writer in this case. but the article is pretty lame, it doesn't notice the actual issues at stake
10:49 < CNOT> we should be open to the idea that human life has no intrinsic value
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11:01 < kanzure> we should be open to the idea that discussing intrinsic value is weird and unproductive and we should build things anyway
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11:05 < CNOT> sounds good!
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13:23 < hprmbridge> soul_syrup> hello everone
13:24 < CNOT> ohai
13:44 < juri_> hello!
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