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02:03 < hprmbridge> jasonblick> kanzure do you still have the link to that static html site with MNT/assembler info & doc links you shared awhile back? I lost it and can't remember the url.
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10:16 < hprmbridge> chiaranardella> Hello there! Aspirant Cybernetics and Cybernetics Engineering student here!
10:17 < hprmbridge> kanzure> what year of school?
10:18 < hprmbridge> chiaranardella> I have to recover a couple years of school than I can go study in University
10:18 < hprmbridge> kanzure> are you still a student?
10:19 < hprmbridge> chiaranardella> I will be again soon enough
10:19 < hprmbridge> kanzure> what kind of cybernetics are you building?
10:20 < Jay_Dugger> Hello, everyone.
10:20 < hprmbridge> chiaranardella> The idea is to create cybernetic limbs, then continue from there
10:24 < hprmbridge> chiaranardella> For now I cannot build anything, don't have the skills, machinery, funding and most of the important knowledge needed for building something
10:25 < hprmbridge> chiaranardella> My hands are tied at the moment
10:29 < hprmbridge> kanzure> hmm. there's usually a way to find something.
10:34 < hprmbridge> chiaranardella> For now the only thing I can do is get the hell back to school, get the Italian "Diploma di Maturità" and then go to University and achieve my dreams of working in the cybernetics field
10:34 < juri_> study hard. :)
10:36 < hprmbridge> chiaranardella> I'd be damned if I will not study very hard, and most importantly: smart
10:37 < hprmbridge> chiaranardella> There is a saying here that says: "Work smart, not hard"
10:43 < hprmbridge> kanzure> Most of the time there's a way to do these projects outside of school or even during school. Usually the classes won't actually teach you how to do something like this.
10:44 < hprmbridge> kanzure> you could focus on the next gen elastomer electrode interfaces, like the high density electrode arrays.
10:45 < hprmbridge> kanzure> Mostly those are being used for brain implants at the moment. You could probably make some progress on limbs if you got a hold of some or made your own. It would be easier to start with animals instead of human limbs, they usually won't let you do human implant surgery without a medical license.
10:49 < hprmbridge> chiaranardella> Yes but without a diploma and atleast a degree, my hands are tied like I already said. And yes I know already that schools don't actually teach you how to work, I experienced it first hand multiple times
10:50 < juri_> teach others what you learn; you learn quite a lot in explaining a thing.
10:51 < hprmbridge> kanzure> did you know you can do things without asking for a diploma? you can just buy stuff and do things.
10:51 < hprmbridge> kanzure> nobody asks for your diploma when you buy an op-amp or a machine shop
10:51 < hprmbridge> chiaranardella> With what money, skills and knowledge?
10:55 < juri_> skills you develop, and knowledge you develop.
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10:55 < juri_> as for resources.. I come from a place where i only had the equipment i could repair.. so developed repair skills.
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10:55 < juri_> it's hard, and requires a lot of study.
10:56 < hprmbridge> chiaranardella> I am not in a position to start on my own, if I were, I would already be working on the cybernetics and doing tests on animals
10:57 < hprmbridge> chiaranardella> You make it look soo easy but it ain't
10:58 < juri_> oh, i know it's not. better to be doing something, than doing nothing, however.
11:00 < juri_> just remember, if you're doing something, no matter how trivial, or off the beaten path, you're not alone. there are lots of us out there, trying to solve these problems.
11:00 < juri_> some of us are here.
11:01 < hprmbridge> chiaranardella> I am not "doing nothing", in a little I'll go back to school and bam, my plans for the future will start to come to fruition
11:01 < juri_> I don't think you're getting it, but here's hoping things work out the way you expect. :)
11:06 < hprmbridge> chiaranardella> Everyone has their own way of doing things, and if I learnt anything in my young life, is that sometimes it is better not to do things on your own, it may lead to disaster
11:32 < juri_> you learn a lot from some disasters, but others are worth avoiding, true. :)
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12:17 < hprmbridge> jasonblick> kanzure do you still have the link to that static html site with MNT/assembler info & doc links you shared awhile back? I lost it and can't remember the url.
12:27 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Nanoengineer?
12:28 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Yeah I'm pretty sure in today's world its a person's parents' responsibility to teach their kids how to work and learn
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13:18 < hprmbridge> jasonblick> Nmz787 possibly
13:20 < hprmbridge> jasonblick> There was information regarding the architecture of a molecular assembler
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13:35 < juri_> I've been seeing a lot of activity on the atomcad project.
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17:48 < muurkha> that's cool
17:48 < muurkha> I didn't know about atomcad
18:54 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/nanotech/
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