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00:02 < muurkha> but also prohibition of abortion
00:05 < fenn> also a bunch of stuff
00:06 < muurkha> ?
00:07 < fenn> well i'm sure it makes sense to him, but he's not easy to pigeonhole
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00:50 < muurkha> that would require a certain degree of consistency, which would require better mental health than he has
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02:14 < sphertext_> i told someone about my plan to bite only the peel of apples and throw away the pulp and he says he agrees but he personally prefers the rind of grapefruits (for the same reason of phytochemical intake) 
02:16 < sphertext_> tbh if he eats it raw i find it a bit psychotic, but also i respect the logic, so i dunno im a bit conflicted 
02:17 < sphertext_> " The phytochemical constituents of the citrus peels may exert biological activities including anticancer, immunostimulation and antigenotoxic potential. "
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06:03 < hprmbridge> kanzure> all transhumanist chats eventually degrade into supplement chat or weird vitamin advertisements.
06:03 < hprmbridge> kanzure> we need technologies that actually work and are effective by several orders of magnitude. all the brain drugs have fairly weak effects and should therefore be considered insufficient and boring.
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06:09 < sphertext_> well excuse me for trying to work with what i have, instead of crossing my arms and demanding more 
06:10 < hprmbridge> kanzure> or you can work on solutions too. it's not just you. it's a whole societal trend.
06:30 < sphertext_> ok well what's the plan 
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07:12 < kanzure> sphertext_: for which problem?
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09:06 < muurkha> there are brain drugs with strong effects; I could name amphetamine, haloperidol, ketamine, and phenobarbital, for example
09:07 < muurkha> they just aren't very transhumanist, more cishumanist
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13:59 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://www.colabra.ai/podcasts/talking-biotech/419-biohacking-diy-biotech-opportunities-and-ethics-with-david-ishee/
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15:44 < sphertext_> kanzure i have time to volunteer and it sounded like you had something specific in mind to work on that would lead to radical progress in transhumanism
17:13 < hprmbridge> kanzure> yes, let's talk soon. currently at an event.
17:14 < hprmbridge> kanzure> What is your background?
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18:18 < sphertext_> like career wise? i don't really have one. a while ago i randomly ended up working in research in biology, but then i left
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19:15 < muurkha> how about skills-wise?
19:36 < ike8> oh, he has skill
19:36 < hprmbridge> kanzure> we have biology projects of many kinds. we can discuss. do you prefer text or voice?
19:45 < sphertext_> who is we?
19:45 < sphertext_> muurkha python and some CLI tools 
19:45 < hprmbridge> kanzure> the residents of this channel.
19:45 < hprmbridge> kanzure> we even have funds for projects, sometimes
19:45 < sphertext_> ike8 i don't think making a bomb tempeh counts :( 
19:46 < sphertext_> that's neat, I didn't know. i don't think i saw anyone discuss active research work before 
19:47 < hprmbridge> kanzure> we have active projects. one in DNA synthesis at the moment. cryptocurrency. embryo engineering one is somewhat inactive......
19:47 < hprmbridge> kanzure> there is a stealth nanosystems startup here too
19:47 < sphertext_> those sound like wet lab stuff. how do you coordinate the work remotely?
19:48 < hprmbridge> kanzure> there are ways... usually by splitting project segments up, or distinct components.
19:49 < hprmbridge> kanzure> I've also been shopping around my animal intelligence enhancement/breeding project a bit, want to determine external interest before I put people on it.
19:49 < hprmbridge> kanzure> another team here is doing in vitro neural organoids for computation?
20:04 < sphertext_> thats pretty ambitious, and im happy for you. i guess i see now why my vitamin talk was boring 
20:48 < hprmbridge> nmz787> With a lot of time
20:48 < hprmbridge> nmz787> (hopefully the bridge has fixed reply-with-context)
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23:49 < fenn> the bridge is me and i haven't done anything to it because i don't know how it works
23:53 < fenn> it's just python using some fairly standard libraries
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