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04:07 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://molstar.org/dev/me/examples/
04:08 < hprmbridge> kanzure> fenn: https://keepaiopen.com/ if you are into weird nerd events.
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07:29 < kanzure> if i had more time, i would more carefully read that davidad link on WBE
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07:44 < kanzure> "Singularity tunneling seems to require a technology that can defend its comparatively powerless users against extremely, perhaps even unimaginably, powerful adversaries. I bring up cryptography to show that it IS possible, at least in certain situations." - Wei Dai
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08:09 < ike8> > jaggz> Prompt: what regulations should be placed to ensure that humanity is safe from ai?
08:09 < ike8> You can protect yourself by knowing your paradoxes.
08:09 < ike8> https://www.themarysue.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/asposter_paradoxes.png
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08:52 < kanzure> i posted that wei dai quote https://twitter.com/kanzure/status/1721548760562512017 and drorlovsky sent me this: https://dr.orlovsky.ch/blog/inevitability-of-cypherpunk-for-a-proper-civilization
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09:40 < kanzure> michel bauwens asks: "have you read, 'the original affluent society', from marshall sahlins ; or the living standards and life expectancy of farmers in the high middle ages , 11th to 13th cy , say in southern France ? interesting amendments to the linear interpretation of human history"
09:41 < docl> does not explain the fermi paradox at all, the full totality of one's power isn't needed to colonize/dysonize the stars. and having more use for more cryptography makes you want more compute rather than less
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09:50 < docl> also singularity tunneling seems to assume you have a valid mechanism of data storage the bad singularity won't harvest for atoms or accidentally overwrite by mistaking it for random
09:51 < docl> apparently there's a window of flight to the edge of the universe, assuming they won't follow you with something faster
09:51 < docl> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrUWkfeJABY
09:54 < docl> tbh I think we should probably pre-seed the cosmos with fairly liberal but fully s-risk-mitigating bots just to be safe. pave the way for later colonists. doesn't need to dyson the stars as it goes, just establish a foothold everywhere in case it needs to do a quick powerup
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11:39 < kanzure> welcome dartmouthed
11:41 < kanzure> docl: agreed, the idea needs further development. if you had really really high compression then you would make copies cheaper to distribute.
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12:09 < fenn> re: https://keepaiopen.com/ "this event is full, join the waitlist"
12:11 < fenn> "sponsored by: effective accelerationism" <- is that a real thing?
12:13 < L29Ah> free t-shirts, now we're talking
12:16 < juri_> "my direct gaze results in overwhelming imposter syndrome"
12:25 < fenn> remind me why we haven't timestamped the internet archive yet?
12:35 < kanzure> just show up
12:36 < kanzure> petertodd tried but they eventually ended the project
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13:53 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://www.miit.gov.cn/jgsj/kjs/wjfb/art/2023/art_50316f76a9b1454b898c7bb2a5846b79.html
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14:02 < fenn> ^ Ministry of Industry and Information "Guiding Opinions on the Innovation and Development of Humanoid Robots"
14:02 < fenn> i don't know how to translate the PDF tho
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14:23 < hprmbridge> kanzure> doesn't say much, they want more humanoid robots.
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16:43 < fenn> OpenAI released GPT-4 Turbo, with 128,000 token context window. 'which for reference is around the length of “Wuthering Heights,” “Gulliver’s Travels” and “Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban.”'
16:44 < kanzure> i don't see it
16:47 < fenn> also GPT-4 fine tuning, but apparently it's finicky
16:48 < fenn> https://openai.com/blog/new-models-and-developer-products-announced-at-devday
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17:31 < docl> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/Protein_translation.gif
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