--- Log opened Fri Nov 17 00:00:28 2023 00:33 -!- gptpaste [~x@yoke.ch0wn.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 01:08 -!- Croran [~Croran@user/Croran] has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:14 -!- juri__ [~juri@79.140.115.129] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:15 -!- juri_ [~juri@84-19-175-187.pool.ovpn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:19 -!- juri__ [~juri@79.140.115.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:20 -!- juri_ [~juri@84-19-175-187.pool.ovpn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:01 -!- gptpaste [~x@yoke.ch0wn.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:01 -!- AugustaAva [~x@yoke.ch0wn.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:30 < TMA> they were trying to ascertain whether the license would permit them to publish: on one hand, they know that evil actors disregard licensing restrictions, so they can. on the other hand they are strong on IP protection, so they cannot 03:33 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:44 -!- docl [~docl@user/docl] has quit [Server closed connection] 03:44 -!- docl [~docl@user/docl] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:12 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:13 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@user/andytoshi] has quit [Server closed connection] 04:13 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@user/andytoshi] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:01 < hprmbridge> nmz787> I think I've been working 80 hour weeks. I can't tell if I'm terrible at my job or I'm just doing a ton of novel stuff 05:02 < hprmbridge> kanzure> why 80 05:20 < nsh> what's work? 05:27 -!- ike8 [e8f913dbdf@irc.cheogram.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:29 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2605:a601:a0e9:8d00:bd1e:c194:601c:9729] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:39 < L29Ah> force multiplied by displacement 05:48 < hprmbridge> kanzure> sloppy speed typer correction tool https://twitter.com/_Borriss_/status/1725208054185046071 05:49 < hprmbridge> kanzure> I'd have to come up with a shorthand encoding of what I want to type, and then type that shorthand instead of the actual thing. But also, the shorthand would have to make sense to the LLM. 06:49 -!- justanot1 [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:36 <+gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id= 07:40 < kanzure> "human fertilization and embryology authority" https://www.hfea.gov.uk/about-us/news-and-press-releases/2023/now-is-the-time-for-change-says-hfea/ 07:40 < kanzure> https://www.hfea.gov.uk/about-us/modernising-the-regulation-of-fertility-treatment-and-research-involving-human-embryos/modernising-fertility-law/ 07:41 < kanzure> https://www.hfea.gov.uk/about-us/modernising-the-regulation-of-fertility-treatment-and-research-involving-human-embryos/overview-of-hfea-public-consultation-on-law-reform-2023/ 07:48 < L29Ah> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK78ey4Sy7M 08:04 -!- Llamamoe [~Llamamoe@188.146.90.70] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:36 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:40 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:51 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@user/superkuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:29 -!- maaku [~quassel@ec2-54-186-10-232.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has quit [Server closed connection] 11:29 -!- maaku [~quassel@ec2-54-186-10-232.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:35 < docl> aribitrary control of the cell's gene expression using an engineered nucleus that uses mainly optical signalling instead of chemical signalling would be pretty powerful if it also had self replication. crazy idea: it not too much work from there to grow human babies in plants. you could have the plant specialized cells form an osmotically protective layer so the embryo doesn't have to juggle the 11:35 < docl> complexity of making the cells resistant to pure water. but the chemical signal agnostic nature of it perhaps means you could have them not cascade in response to hypothermia, so it might not actually need temperature regulation 11:36 < docl> lower hanging fruit: make the baby grow in a temperature controled sugar/saline solution 11:36 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@user/superkuh] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:37 < docl> obviously you'd also be able to grow body parts in a solution this way 11:41 < hprmbridge> nmz787> 5 nodes in 4 years 11:42 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Or in my case specifically, 3 pdks in 6 weeks 11:49 < docl> maybe you have to spoof mechanical pressures to get cells to specialize correctly, cytoskeletally and so forth (thinking about like muscle and nerve tissue)? how much of that isn't mediated by gene expression though? 11:50 < docl> O2 delivery would be an issue for big tissue masses. could solve that using cobalt nanocrystals rather than heme maybe 11:53 < docl> that's a possible workaround for organoid size limits btw. higher capacity O2 carriers -> you can circulate them more slowly/passively 12:01 -!- Llamamoe [~Llamamoe@188.146.90.70] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:08 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:23 -!- faceface [~faceface@user/faceface] has quit [Server closed connection] 12:23 -!- faceface [~faceface@user/faceface] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:45 < kanzure> about build times https://gregoryszorc.com/blog/2021/04/06/surprisingly-slow/ 12:48 < kanzure> https://codesandbox.io/blog/cloning-microvms-using-userfaultfd 13:38 < kanzure> gosh who knew that the first job that openai would take would be sam altman's job 13:47 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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