--- Log opened Sun Nov 26 00:00:36 2023 00:25 < mrdata> cheapest gcms? 00:34 -!- Malvolio is now known as IsoLogic 00:43 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:49 -!- ike8 [e8f913dbdf@irc.cheogram.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:53 -!- Llamamoe [~Llamamoe@188.146.96.109] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:28 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:39 -!- millefy [~Millefeui@anantes-651-1-211-3.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:05 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 03:05 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:18 < hprmbridge> jay_dugger> Hello, everyone. 04:18 < hprmbridge> jay_dugger> (About to head to work.) 04:19 < hprmbridge> jay_dugger> (Only testing Discord this end.) 06:45 < hprmbridge> kanzure> ran into peter voss 07:37 -!- ike8 [e8f913dbdf@irc.cheogram.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:52 < docl> mrdata: are you looking for a diy option or just the cheapest off the shelf? 07:53 < docl> for general interest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc6VKQSX5j8 // DIY gas chromatograph 07:55 < docl> I see a used one for $100 here https://newlifescientific.com/products/for-parts-or-repair-varian-saturn-3-gc-ms-mass-spectrometer-vocs-gas-chromatography 08:01 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2605:a601:a0e9:8d00:1810:24b9:2afc:295f] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:03 < docl> the way two items marketed as the same thing can be priced 3 orders of magnitude apart from each other continues to astound me 08:14 < L29Ah> not sure if garbage or valuable scientific instrument 09:35 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "cadmancer" (LLM) https://twitter.com/Algomancer/status/1728643892525019602 11:03 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:07 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:08 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:13 < docl> thinking about dna data storage, how to keep it compact yet readable. imagine something like a phonograph record. you have a ssDNA chain, paired to which are nucleobases with trailing polymers of varying length. then you coil it in a flat spiral with the side polymers going up. you could then read it by dragging a diamond needle along it e.g. 12:13 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064664282450628710/1178428333952868493/image0.jpg?ex=65761be8&is=6563a6e8&hm=016e4b61f34572780ae8870351654a4485a87adb2ed61754e82366e7c4df85d8& 13:15 < kanzure> docl: it's too floppy for that 13:34 < docl> I'm thinking you could crosslink the dna. still floppy, but once you have the polymers assembled onto it you could crosslink those too. or extract the solvent so they immobilize against each other naturally, etc 13:40 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:44 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:49 -!- Guest58 [~Guest58@2001:1c03:5104:7e01:15b3:4b28:581d:b9f9] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:50 -!- Guest58 [~Guest58@2001:1c03:5104:7e01:15b3:4b28:581d:b9f9] has quit [Client Quit] 13:50 < kanzure> look who has de-lurked to scold me https://twitter.com/kanzure/status/1728891608568045713 13:50 < juri_> kanzure: is it me? :) 14:18 -!- Llamamoe [~Llamamoe@188.146.96.109] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:16 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 15:16 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:35 < hprmbridge> kanzure> for jrayhawk https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064664282450628710/1178479290015297586/image0.jpg?ex=65764b5d&is=6563d65d&hm=73ad01329c3236564125837793e73fa3fe0b855b9eae1e64668f089853fe2972& 15:37 < L29Ah> looks like my X210 15:42 < fenn> does it have the clicky trigger or the new mushy trigger 15:48 -!- darsie is now known as FunnySirius 16:15 < hprmbridge> ukulelenull> @kanzure hi does diybio still exist? 16:18 < kanzure> that's a good question, and i don't have a good answer 16:18 < kanzure> there are still people working on non-academic biotech projects if that's what you're asking 16:18 < kanzure> there are still some diybio-adjacent community labs that have membership plans and stuff.. 16:18 < kanzure> and various people have their own garage labs still. 16:37 -!- mrdata_ [~mrdata@135-23-182-55.cpe.pppoe.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:37 -!- mrdata_ [~mrdata@user/mrdata] has changed host 16:40 -!- dartmout- [~blackunsp@li761-35.members.linode.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:40 -!- RubenSomsen [sid301948@user/rubensomsen] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:40 -!- s0ph1a [sid246387@id-246387.helmsley.irccloud.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:40 -!- EnabrinTain_ [sid11525@id-11525.helmsley.irccloud.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:40 -!- potatope [sid139423@id-139423.lymington.irccloud.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:40 -!- dartmouthed [~blackunsp@li761-35.members.linode.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:40 -!- drmeister [sid45147@id-45147.ilkley.irccloud.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:40 -!- Jenda [~jenda@coralmyn.hrach.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:40 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@user/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:40 -!- TMA [tma@twin.jikos.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:40 -!- drmeister_ [sid45147@id-45147.ilkley.irccloud.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:41 -!- Jenda [~jenda@coralmyn.hrach.eu] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:42 -!- TMA [tma@twin.jikos.cz] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:45 -!- mrdata_ is now known as mrdata 16:46 < hprmbridge> ukulelenull> okay thx 16:52 -!- s0ph1a [sid246387@id-246387.helmsley.irccloud.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:53 -!- RubenSomsen [sid301948@user/rubensomsen] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:53 -!- potatope [sid139423@id-139423.lymington.irccloud.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:53 -!- EnabrinTain_ [sid11525@id-11525.helmsley.irccloud.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:59 < jrayhawk> most of the thinkpad design language was lost around 2012 with consumer product designers being given power over engineering concerns, thus commoditizing the product line. the fullest version of the thinkpad glock would have to go back quite a ways to fully commit to the joke: light blue slide release/carriage return, picatinny thinklight, colored status lights including blinking amber "low ammo" 16:59 < jrayhawk> light, crenulated grip in the style of bevelled keys, crenulated blue-dot trigger safety flanked by red-line trigger, softtouch black finish, silver aluminum chamber, fingerprint reader, trackpoint red iron sights, thinkvantage mag release, etc. 17:01 < jrayhawk> https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51CM3S-gbGL.jpg mags that look like rubber-isolated hard drive trays 17:06 < jrayhawk> barrel connectors as bullets 17:08 < jrayhawk> interminable crapware trying to upsell you on lenovo services every time you pull the trigger 17:38 -!- FunnySirius is now known as darsie 17:54 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:13 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:14 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:20 < fenn> the existence proof of AI model distillation is good news for technologically mediated telepathy (of human brains) 18:21 < fenn> even without anything approaching a 1:1 mapping of either individual neurons or overall architecture, a broad communication channel can allow rapid and precise transfer of knowledge from one format/brain to another 18:21 < fenn> probably we can learn directly from AI models and vice versa 18:29 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2605:a601:a0e9:8d00:1810:24b9:2afc:295f] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:48 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://twitter.com/kanzure/status/1728967746766217493 19:46 < docl> .wik Risk_compensation 19:46 < EmmyNoether> "Risk compensation is a theory which suggests that people typically adjust their behavior in response to perceived levels of risk, becoming more careful where they sense greater risk and less careful if they feel more protected." - 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