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01:51 < fenn> "silence and remove a small fraction of aged neocortical tissue" makes absolutely no sense
01:51 < fenn> that's YOU
01:52 < fenn> it's like somebody read the plan to replace dying neurons one by one with artificial nanotech and didn't understand the concept
01:52 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Pfff who's gonna miss a little neocortical tissue?
01:54 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Lobotomization? Never heard of it
01:55 < fenn> also glaringly missing from his roadmap or whatever, is programmed biological aging theories and related interventions like blood letting
01:55 < fenn> plasmapheresis*
01:58 < fenn> somehow he thinks brain transplants will be cheaper?
01:59 < fenn> sounds like a nightmare even with unlimited money
02:04 < hprmbridge> kanzure> aubs was mentioning a similar plan.. the idea was that you would practice recalling whatever triggers that neuron and hopefully new ones will reinforce what you're about to lose
02:04 < hprmbridge> kanzure> something like that.
02:17 < fenn> crazy dreams oughta do it
02:19 < fenn> i suspect the human brain is ludicrously redundant
02:20 < fenn> it doesn't mean you can just take chunks out, but there should be no failures from removing a single neuron
02:21 < fenn> the problem with "practice recalling X" is that you don't know what you know
02:22 < fenn> at least nanotech neurons will be capable of reporting whether they've been exercised enough to function as a replacement
02:22 < fenn> presumably biological neurons could do that too, with barcode secretion
02:24 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> I'm on the move so I can't cite properly but iirc Alzheimer's likely begins much earlier than symptoms occur and the visible signs are just when the brain cannot compensate anymore
02:26 < hprmbridge> alonzoc> Also the neocortex we know is exceptionally flexible. Issue is that the brain is a heterogeneous system so it's not as simple as erasure coding or Byzantine fault tolerance threshold
02:40 < fenn> real time image generation with SDXL-turbo "adversarial diffusion distillation" https://www.fal.ai/turbo https://stability.ai/research/adversarial-diffusion-distillation
02:42 < fenn> search as you type is annoying enough for text, but image generation is something else
03:00 < fenn> not bad for 200 milliseconds: https://pasteboard.co/hIOcNDfsPyvQ.jpg https://pasteboard.co/fwZbQpks70qK.jpg https://pasteboard.co/LB3UdyhvwkXC.jpg
03:01 < fenn> i couldn't even get SD 1.5 to draw an anatomically accurate brain
03:10 < fenn> it really needs that orthogonal prompt extension; there's concept bleed all over the place
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05:15 < fenn> https://github.com/karpathy/arxiv-sanity-preserver
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05:59 < hprmbridge> jaisel> @kanzure any ideas as of yet?
06:48 < hprmbridge> Eli> https://themessenger.com/news/dogs-expanded-life-span-drug-fda-approval-large-breeds
06:55 < hprmbridge> ukulelenull> anyone want a bluesky invite code?
06:56 < hprmbridge> ukulelenull> bluesky-social-dbq5t-zuhcv
06:57 < L29Ah> send bluesky invites to the fediverse people you dislike the most
06:58 < muurkha> haha
07:49 < ike8> what is bluesky?
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07:57 < L29Ah> it's twitter reinventing xmpp/activitypub
08:02 < ike8> ah, uninteresting
08:57 < juri_> second system effect turned into a business.
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10:57 < kanzure> focused ultrasound startup using rothberg's butterfly thing https://spectrum.ieee.org/bci-ultrasound
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13:34 < hprmbridge> kanzure> wimmelbilder https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064664282450628710/1179535895863500810/file-N3Ua4dWxYrfijXo3KJjogypR.png?ex=657a2368&is=6567ae68&hm=396fd6eba293800f86c3db99367dedbe7ac36dca507033685a230f1a26558004&
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15:21 < kanzure> "Orlando Serrell gained calendar-calculating savant abilities and a perfect memory after being struck on the left side of the head by a baseball."
15:24 < fenn> "perfect" memory often turns out not to be, when investigated
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17:05 < hprmbridge> kanzure> lots of words spent playing in someone else's sandbox https://optimists.ai/2023/11/28/ai-is-easy-to-control/
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