--- Log opened Mon Dec 04 00:00:48 2023 00:58 -!- TMA [tma@twin.jikos.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:02 -!- hprmbridge [~hprmbridg@user/fenn/bot/fennbots] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:03 < hprmbridge> fennfoot> @hprmbridge go get em tiger 01:06 < fenn> .wik foo 01:06 < EmmyNoether> " / The terms foobar (/ˈfuːbɑːr/), foo, bar, baz, and others are used as metasyntactic variables and placeholder names in computer programming or computer-related documentation." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo 01:09 -!- helleshin [~talinck@108-225-123-172.lightspeed.cntmoh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:10 < fenn> .m https://twitter.com/i/status/25 01:10 < AugustaAva> ​twitter: just setting up my twttr 01:10 < fenn> well that failed in every way 01:11 < fenn> wtf discord 01:11 < hprmbridge> fennfoot> https://twitter.com/i/status/25 01:11 -!- hellleshin [~talinck@108-225-123-172.lightspeed.cntmoh.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:12 < fenn> oh it's AugustaAva not AugustAva 01:17 < hprmbridge> fennfoot> do discordians want to ignore any of the irc bots? or does it not matter? discord wastes so much screen space i can't decide what's spam and what's not spam anymore 01:18 < hprmbridge> fennfoot> also why am i fennfoot 01:30 < hprmbridge> fennfoot> you'd think message.author.display_name would be different from message.author.name 01:31 < hprmbridge> nmz787> I don't see any irc bot garbage on my side of discord 01:32 < hprmbridge> nmz787> and usually I'm using it from my android phone, where space seems well utilized 01:33 < hprmbridge> nmz787> also your background name, or whatever they call it on discord, is fennfoot... but I just see your name as fenn unless I click on your name specifically 01:33 < hprmbridge> fennfoot> sometimes the discord link previews take up 75% of the chat area on my screen 01:33 < hprmbridge> nmz787> yeah, I mean, a webpage in a webpage... 01:33 < hprmbridge> nmz787> not unexpected 01:33 < hprmbridge> nmz787> *queue the xzibit yo-dawg memes* 01:34 < hprmbridge> fennfoot> yeah but my bot is sending "fennfoot> also why am i fennfoot" 01:34 < hprmbridge> nmz787> the weird garbage characters (unicode mistranslations?) are more annoying 01:34 < hprmbridge> nmz787> you probably need to choose the "new" handle/name or something 01:35 < hprmbridge> nmz787> idk much about discord API/internals 01:35 < hprmbridge> nmz787> but they have your like, display name, and the one that is your account nam 01:36 < hprmbridge> nmz787> whatever these fancy-a bold-sqaure bold-square craps are makes stuff confusing to read sometimes https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064664282450628710/1181167200250380348/image.png?ex=658012ad&is=656d9dad&hm=16f455a2c149a232ed578eadfa3b218bddc2a28394b5d9e6fe7960afd85780de& 01:37 < hprmbridge> fennfoot> am wondering what this does: message = "{:s}> {:s}".format(re.sub(r"(]|-|\\|[`*_{}[()#+.!])", r'\\\1', event.source.nick), message) 01:38 < hprmbridge> fennfoot> the fancy bold square craps are some kind of UTF conversion error, although i don't know why it's using unicode spaces in the first place 02:12 -!- sgiath [~sgiath@mail.sgiath.dev] has quit [] 02:26 -!- hprmbridge [~hprmbridg@user/fenn/bot/fennbots] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:42 -!- hprmbridge [~hprmbridg@user/fenn/bot/fennbots] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:50 < fenn> .m https://twitter.com/i/status/25 02:50 < AugustaAva> ​twitter: just setting up my twttr 02:51 * fenn shrugs 02:51 < fenn> oh actions don't get passed either 02:51 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:53 < hprmbridge> kanzure> it's not a well written bridge. we can throw it out if you want or if you've found anything better. 02:53 < hprmbridge> fennfoot> i haven't found anything better 02:54 < hprmbridge> fennfoot> and now i'm emotionally invested :P 02:57 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00 < hprmbridge> kanzure> @docl: you might as well write down the extropic technique for posterity. 03:00 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:01 -!- hprmbridge [~hprmbridg@user/fenn/bot/fennbots] has quit [Quit: Goodbye.] 03:01 -!- hprmbridge [~hprmbridg@user/fenn/bot/fennbots] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:01 * fenn grunts 03:23 < alethkit> kanzure: Do you have any strong opinions on Molecular Biology of the Cell? 03:23 < hprmbridge> kanzure> not really? consider wikipedia instead. 03:58 < hprmbridge> kanzure> IQ exhibition art installation: get some paid people from each IQ tier and the visitors get to have conversations with each one. 04:03 < fenn> how about just showing some art from each IQ tier instead 04:03 < hprmbridge> kanzure> SSC IQ self reports https://old.reddit.com/r/cognitiveTesting/s/q1y6drYUV6 04:05 < fenn> is there a "just the results please" page 04:05 < fenn> it wants me to log in 04:06 < hprmbridge> kanzure> also this was fun https://old.reddit.com/r/cognitiveTesting/s/EayPYBZkEL 04:23 < fenn> mice doing laps in zero gee https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7lgj3aZ8dU 04:25 < hprmbridge> kanzure> any thoughts about the ISS sabotage rumor 04:26 < fenn> the hole drilling things from 2021? 04:27 < fenn> typical state bureaucracy unable to admit fault 04:28 < fenn> there have been a lot of failures in the russian space program lately 04:28 < hprmbridge> kanzure> no the 4chan version 04:28 < fenn> please elaborate 04:31 < hprmbridge> kanzure> keeping in mind that the whole thing was past its planned life in 2020.... https://twitter.com/SL_D_Silver/status/1694042986806472980 04:33 < hprmbridge> kanzure> maybe easier to read https://twitter.com/nohegaylians/status/1693990808939298828 04:33 < hprmbridge> kanzure> anyway, pretty ridiculous, just something to read I guess 04:33 < fenn> this is the russian conspiracy theory 04:34 < fenn> totally bogus i'd say 04:34 < fenn> you don't become an astronaut and get ... pissy about the toilet 04:37 < fenn> the way it works is, they find some identity group conflict, then take up both sides of the conflict 04:39 < fenn> divide and conquer 04:39 < fenn> they = internet research agency or somesuch 04:43 -!- kanzure [~kanzure@user/kanzure] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:44 < kanzure> hello 05:15 < docl> alethkit: I've found that book helpful, has some good pictures and diagrams and so forth 05:16 < docl> it doesn't have literally everything though, no mention of polyketides for example 05:57 -!- test_ [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:00 -!- flooded [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:10 < nsh> 'Meet Strange Metals: Where Electricity May Flow Without Electrons' - https://www.quantamagazine.org/meet-strange-metals-where-electricity-may-flow-without-electrons-20231127/ 07:28 < kanzure> lot of wacky anti-surrogacy going around lately https://thefederalist.com/2023/12/04/the-conservative-pro-life-case-against-surrogacy/ 07:28 < kanzure> i think the most devastating argument against anti-ivf is the existence of 8 million relatively healthy humanoids born from ivf. 07:30 < kanzure> aligning with the human gigafactory is the only way to be industrial scale pro-human-creation 08:13 < kanzure> "Some of the pro-tech eugenicist weirdos think religion is weird and stupid right? And then the trads are like these people are going to hell and should be put in jail. That's fine, but it's not going to happen. This stuff is happening. It's all around us. They walk amongst us. The technology. There are genetically modified children already born. It is here. How do you deal with it?" 08:43 -!- juri_ [~juri@faikvm.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:50 -!- juri_ [~juri@faikvm.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:00 -!- TMA [tma@twin.jikos.cz] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:06 -!- flooded [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:09 -!- test_ [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:14 < kanzure> uhhh https://twitter.com/MikeAnissimov2/status/1731721415164830103 09:17 < kanzure> is gnusha.org resolving for y'all 09:19 < kanzure> huh his wikipedia article got turbo-nuked. not notable enough anymore? 09:19 < kanzure> http://sl4.org/archive/0112/2454.html 09:19 < L29Ah> kanzure: yes 11:11 -!- ike8 [e8f913dbdf@irc.cheogram.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:17 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 11:17 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:22 -!- FelixWeis__ [sid154231@id-154231.hampstead.irccloud.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:22 -!- yuanti_ [sid16585@id-16585.tinside.irccloud.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:25 -!- yorick [~yorick@user/yorick] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:25 -!- FelixWeis_ [sid154231@id-154231.hampstead.irccloud.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:25 -!- yuanti [sid16585@id-16585.tinside.irccloud.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:25 -!- yuanti_ is now known as yuanti 11:36 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:36 -!- yorick [~yorick@user/yorick] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:48 < hprmbridge> jason.crawford> last day to comment on the FDA's proposed rule to regulate lab tests: https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2023/10/03/2023-21662/medical-devices-laboratory-developed-tests 11:48 < hprmbridge> jason.crawford> here's Alex Tabarrok on this: https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2023/12/dont-let-the-fda-regulate-lab-tests.html 11:58 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:10 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@user/superkuh] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:12 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@user/superkuh] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:14 -!- test_ [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:18 -!- flooded [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:26 -!- cthlolo [~lorogue@77.33.23.154] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:30 -!- cthlolo [~lorogue@77.33.23.154] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:31 -!- cthlolo [~lorogue@77.33.23.154.dhcp.fibianet.dk] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:37 < hprmbridge> kanzure> @jason.crawford Maybe it would be better to be FDA regulation maximalists- accelerationists even- until people realize the system is silly and it collapses, to be replaced by.. uh. something. 12:38 < L29Ah> there are plenty of silly systems that don't collapse 12:39 -!- cthlolo [~lorogue@77.33.23.154.dhcp.fibianet.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:39 < muurkha> kanzure: if you want regulation maximalism you can always move to North Korea 12:41 < kanzure> who regulates the regulators? 12:41 < L29Ah> i don't think one can legally migrate to North Korea 12:42 < kanzure> has anyone tried 12:42 < muurkha> well, one drawback of regulation maximalism is that many things you might want to do aren't legal 12:43 < muurkha> apparently at least some people can: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_North_Korea 12:49 -!- cthlolo [~lorogue@77.33.23.154] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:50 -!- cthlolo [~lorogue@77.33.23.154] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:56 -!- cthlolo [~lorogue@77.33.23.154.dhcp.fibianet.dk] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:59 < hprmbridge> nmz787> kanzure conceiving and birthing a kid is relatively easy compared to raising one 12:59 < hprmbridge> nmz787> gigafactory in that sense sounds, if that's all it entails, sounds pretty boring 13:00 < hprmbridge> nmz787> or unhelpful at the least 13:26 -!- cthlolo [~lorogue@77.33.23.154.dhcp.fibianet.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:08 -!- ike8 [e8f913dbdf@irc.cheogram.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:31 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Quit: Wash your hands. Don't touch your face. Avoid fossil fuels and animal products. Have no/fewer children. Protest, elect sane politicians. Invest ecologically.] 14:35 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:23 -!- flooded [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:27 -!- test_ [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:39 -!- flooded [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:48 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:53 -!- flooded [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:24 < hprmbridge> kanzure> oh, it would include rearing (eg nannies and family services) 16:28 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:37 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:38 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:45 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "one kilobyte of DNA data storage" okay.... https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/biomemory-unveils-groundbreaking-dna-cards-revolutionizing-data-storage-technology-302003996.html 17:05 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:06 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:38 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:38 -!- frege [uid547359@id-547359.hampstead.irccloud.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:49 < hprmbridge> nmz787> "boasts"... More like the opposite of that 17:56 < kanzure> a primer on bezier curves https://pomax.github.io/bezierinfo/ 18:46 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 18:46 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:53 < docl> ok extropic is saying they are doing thermal computing. that's a little different from what I had in mind. not incompatible though. running current through the conductive molecules to make heat in order to reposition them in a plastic substrate is my guess. at that scale thermal differences don't last long, but maybe that lets you move the molecules by short, predictable amounts. 20:01 < hprmbridge> kanzure> lots of bizzaro off shoots https://ladytetra777.substack.com/p/interview-with-psikey-aka-alice-fields 20:05 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://www.eaccwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page 20:17 < docl> specialsnowfl/acc 20:20 < hprmbridge> nmz787> How much space was the scihub backup folks around here had? 20:21 < hprmbridge> nmz787> I just recall something like 'enough that a road trip makes sense to copy it ' 20:47 -!- frege [uid547359@id-547359.hampstead.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:41 -!- test_ [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:45 -!- flooded [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:14 -!- justanot1 [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:16 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:17 -!- dutchkin [~dutchkin@193.142.201.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:51 < hprmbridge> nmz787> @kanzure baby giga factory sounds a lot like i remember the plot to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World 22:52 < hprmbridge> nmz787> So, uh, fix/prevent the problems in their and I guess it seems like it would scale economically 23:14 -!- justanot1 [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:16 -!- Gooberpatrol_66 [~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:18 -!- Gooberpatrol66 [~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] --- Log closed Tue Dec 05 00:00:49 2023