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Invest ecologically.] 05:54 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:58 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Client Quit] 05:58 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:23 -!- test_ [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:27 -!- flooded [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:51 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2605:a601:a0cd:9500:fc6e:9d9e:3eb0:d429] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:31 -!- test_ is now known as _flood 08:55 -!- flooded [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:59 -!- _flood [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:28 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:38 -!- juri_ [~juri@implicitcad.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:40 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.115.48] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:51 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.115.48] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:53 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.115.48] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:57 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.115.48] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:58 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.115.48] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:08 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.115.48] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:09 -!- juri_ [~juri@implicitcad.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:58 -!- juri__ [~juri@79.140.115.48] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:01 -!- juri_ [~juri@implicitcad.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:08 -!- juri__ [~juri@79.140.115.48] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:09 -!- frege [uid547359@id-547359.hampstead.irccloud.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:10 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.115.48] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:15 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.115.48] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:15 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.115.48] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:33 -!- test_ [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:35 -!- flooded [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:37 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.115.48] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:38 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.115.48] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:48 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.115.48] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:50 -!- juri_ [~juri@implicitcad.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:56 < ike8> I don't have access to the paper, but MIB-626 looks interesting. 13:56 < ike8> > MIB-626 treatment was associated with substantial dose-related increases in blood NAD levels 13:56 < ike8> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35182418/ 14:46 < docl> Here's an open access article mentioning the substance https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2161831323013595 14:50 < docl> Here's another that summarizes it https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11357-022-00705-1 14:50 < docl> > An RCT with 1000 and 2000 mg/day oral doses of MIB-626, a unique microcrystalline NMN formulation, on 32 overweight or obese older adults showed that blood NAD concentration was dose-dependently increased and NMN treatment was also safe and well tolerated, but the trial found that lower doses failed to significantly elevate blood NAD concentration 15:09 < Ashstar> Yes, too bad NMN is ridiculously expensive! 15:11 < Ashstar> I guess only the wealthy can afford these life extension substances, while the rest of us just have to eat healthy 15:13 < L29Ah> pretty sure it'll get much cheaper in three years 15:14 < L29Ah> https://www.iherb.com/pr/california-gold-nutrition-nmn-powder-300-mg-1-05-oz-30-g/112136 oh it's on iherb now, already much cheaper than it was a couple of years ago 15:15 < Ashstar> yeah, a Kg of NMN was thousands of $ 15:28 -!- frege [uid547359@id-547359.hampstead.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 15:49 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:58 -!- kanzure [~kanzure@user/kanzure] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:59 -!- hprmbridge [~hprmbridg@user/fenn/bot/fennbots] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:59 -!- maaku [~quassel@ec2-54-186-10-232.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:59 -!- maaku [~quassel@ec2-54-186-10-232.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:59 -!- kanzure [~kanzure@user/kanzure] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:00 -!- hprmbridge [~hprmbridg@user/fenn/bot/fennbots] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:30 -!- flooded [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:34 -!- test_ [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:46 < ike8> I thought there was new data showing that regular NMN doesn't increase NAD levels 17:48 -!- IsoCold is now known as IsoLogic 18:08 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 18:08 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:23 < hprmbridge> Eli> You can also just take niacin 18:35 < hprmbridge> kanzure> connectome memory decoding https://braininspired.co/podcast/180/ 19:01 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:03 < docl> https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2016/08/03/antimatter-production-harvesting-in-space/ 19:03 < docl> > Jupiter is a source, but Saturn is even better, for a larger flux enters its atmosphere. Saturn is, in fact, the place where the largest total supply of antiprotons appears, with reactions in its rings injecting 250 micrograms per year into the planet’s magnetosphere. 19:07 < docl> doesn't really seem likely to be all that profitable to harvest at that rate 19:11 < docl> otoh maybe there's a scheme you could use to make it speed up -- big solar mirrors that accelerate microscopic particles to collide with the rings at relativistic velocities, similar to some of the interstellar propulsion schemes? 19:16 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffffff@2605:a601:a0cd:9500:fc6e:9d9e:3eb0:d429] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:26 -!- juri_ [~juri@implicitcad.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:37 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.115.70] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:44 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.115.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:55 < docl> maybe just release aerographite macrons near the sun. the light pressure would accelerate them continuously from there. point the stream at Saturn and collect the resulting antimatter 19:55 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.115.70] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:18 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.115.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:30 -!- juri_ [~juri@implicitcad.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:35 -!- juri_ [~juri@implicitcad.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:41 < Ashstar> hprmbridge, there are several form of niacin. the amide, the acid 20:41 < Ashstar> few others 20:41 < Ashstar> nicotinic acid amide 20:42 -!- mxz [~mxz@user/mxz] has quit [Quit: cya] 20:42 < Ashstar> yes, niacin, the acid is great 20:42 < Ashstar> way to screw with someone 20:43 < Ashstar> causes your plateletes to flow through capialries 20:43 -!- mxz [~mxz@user/mxz] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:43 < Ashstar> capilaries 20:43 < Ashstar> so one gets a skin flow of blood 20:43 < Ashstar> people freak out 20:45 < Ashstar> still NMN, has a great effect on the NAD pathway synthesis 21:30 -!- juri_ [~juri@implicitcad.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:38 -!- juri_ [~juri@implicitcad.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:45 -!- juri_ [~juri@implicitcad.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:50 -!- juri_ [~juri@implicitcad.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:30 < muurkha> hprmbridge is a bot; it can't understand what you're saying 22:32 < Ashstar> ic 22:33 < Ashstar> dispenses related information without a prompt 22:34 < muurkha> it's a bridge 22:45 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.115.70] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:59 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.115.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:10 -!- juri_ [~juri@implicitcad.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:16 -!- juri__ [~juri@79.140.115.70] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:17 -!- juri_ [~juri@implicitcad.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:18 -!- juri__ [~juri@79.140.115.70] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:30 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.115.70] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:45 -!- juri_ [~juri@79.140.115.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:52 -!- juri_ [~juri@implicitcad.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:57 -!- juri_ [~juri@implicitcad.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] --- Log closed Fri Dec 15 00:00:59 2023