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02:10 < nsh> .t https://carnewschina.com/2023/12/17/nio-et7-with-150-kwh-semi-solid-state-battery-achieves-a-1044-km-range/
02:10 < EmmyNoether> Nio ET7 with 150 kWh semi-solid state battery achieves a 1,044 km range
02:12 < nsh> .t https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNZy603as5w
02:12 < EmmyNoether> A robot just swapped my electric car's battery - YouTube
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10:33 < fenn> we're going to have this problem where a song gets stuck in your head, and then you will never ever find it again because it's an AI generated ephemeral thing
11:01 < hprmbridge> kanzure> we will just extract it from your head and do a variation on it. easy.
11:05 < L29Ah> or at least you can beatbox it, and the "AI" will enhance it for you
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11:39 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "A long-context language model for the generation of bacteriophage genomes" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.12.18.572218v1
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14:34 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Fenn a while ago you mentioned some research on getting sick as a child and how it might suck up enough energy to heal, to reduce learning capacity during that time. Reference for me to read?
14:35 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Also dear lazyweb, if you know of any references for me to read about the following:
14:35 < hprmbridge> nmz787>
14:35 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Is there actual studies data on whether kids getting sick "makes their immune system stronger"? I don't mean getting some immunity to the strain they just got sick from, because that is a given assumption for any standard immune system. I mean like, does getting sick 8x a year actually benefit them somehow vs getting sick 4x a year... Let's constrain it to say less than 10 years old age too (when
14:35 < hprmbridge> nmz787> they probably should finally be better at not touching EVERYTHING, washing hands before potentially infecting themselves, holding their breath when someone coughs in their face, etc)
14:35 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Or is this just all old wives tales?
14:35 < hprmbridge> nmz787> We know that kid's immune systems forget immunity more easily, that's why they need higher doses of vaccines more frequently, the younger they are.
14:45 < hprmbridge> kanzure> immune exposure therapy.
14:48 < L29Ah> nmz787: kids getting lots of stuff in tentatively helps against getting allergies in adulthood
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16:50 < muurkha> nmz787: there is definitely a "hygiene effect" where being exposed to microbes in childhood makes you less allergic
16:50 < muurkha> as L29Ah said
16:51 < muurkha> more or less
16:51 < muurkha> but I'm not sure there's a clear effect of the kind you're asking about
17:02 < L29Ah> also seems like allergies' sufferers have a bit reduced incidence of cancer
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17:14 < hprmbridge> nmz787> I didn't think hygiene theory has anything to do with getting kids getting sick though. I always associated that with " how clean freaks can be bad for their kids"
17:15 < muurkha> I'm pretty sure that being exposed to microbes in childhood has something to do with kids getting sick :)
17:16 < hprmbridge> nmz787> But like, i want to see real data on what age getting sick starts benefits not being allergic as an adult. And if frequency of getting sick matters, or if too much or too little is worse ( and what those frequencies are)
17:17 < hprmbridge> nmz787> I legit associated that hygiene hypothesis with people getting scared of like mud or grass stains
17:19 < muurkha> it's more about farm kids working with manure
17:24 < hprmbridge> nmz787> I've already got the kid covered for that
17:25 < hprmbridge> nmz787> It's the local MAGA crowd sending snotty kids to school that I'm concerned about
17:25 < muurkha> Make America Gross Again
17:34 < L29Ah> nmz787: try making your kid measure CO2 in classrooms during classes
18:05 < fenn> nmz787: it was just an explanation for why we observe higher IQ in colder climates, that there is less parasite load. i think i read it on a private mailing list but now i can't find the thread, which was about choosing the best US state in which to raise a family
18:07 < fenn> nmz787: ah i found it: https://web.archive.org/web/20130103000449/http://squid314.livejournal.com/346391.html
18:07 < fenn> .t
18:07 < EmmyNoether> Jackdaws love my big sphinx of quartz - The Biodeterminist's Guide to Parenting
18:10 < fenn> .t https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rspb.2010.0973
18:10 < EmmyNoether> HTTPError: HTTP Error 403: Forbidden (title:75)
18:10 < fenn> .t https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289611000286
18:10 < EmmyNoether> HTTPError: HTTP Error 403: Forbidden (title:75)
18:11 < fenn> Parasite prevalence and the distribution of intelligence, globally and  among the states of the USA, respectively
18:13 < fenn> see section "Location, Part I" of the livejournal
18:15 < fenn> "According to the Parasite-Stress USA index, the ten top places to be a child (and ten bottom places to be a hookworm) are from best to worst Maine, New Hampshire, West Virginia, Vermont, Wyoming, Idaho, North Dakota, Montana, Utah, Oregon."
18:15 < fenn> "The ten worst states are New York, Illinois, Tennessee, Delaware, Maryland, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, Louisiana, and, in last place, poor Mississippi again."
18:16 < fenn> "Other states that may be of interest to readers are (higher rankings are less parasite-infested) Massachussetts: 13, California: 27, Florida: 34, Texas: 38."
18:16 < muurkha> Texas is full of chiggers, so I'm skeptical of this rating
18:17 < muurkha> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trombicula
18:17 < fenn> "This suggests the hypothesis that home-schooled children should be smarter than public-schooled children because they're not getting exposed to the latest contagious infection every month, but no one's been brave enough to face the confounders an attempt to measure that would throw up, let alone the political firestorm.
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21:45 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Thanks
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