--- Log opened Sun Jan 14 00:00:28 2024
00:00 < Ashstar> this, I guess is the feeling better, more capable, after almost going to the ER last night after Walking Pneumonia, Hard to brathe shit do to fluid in lungs knowin I had a secondary infection, after the flu and taking antiiotics
00:01 < Ashstar> mind is so much clearer
00:01 < Ashstar> life more beautiful
00:02 < muurkha> I hope you're okay
00:06 < muurkha> I'm glad your mind is clearer
00:06 < Ashstar> yeah
00:06 < Ashstar> better
00:07 < Ashstar> I could not get enough air
00:07 < Ashstar> almost went to ER
00:07 < Ashstar> it dawned on me that this was pneumotic
00:07 < Ashstar> secondary
00:08 < Ashstar> most likely, bactrial
00:08 < Ashstar> thank Gaud for antibiotics
00:09 < Ashstar> amoxicillin
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02:08 < hprmbridge> wtfbro84> i just arrived
02:08 < hprmbridge> wtfbro84> who has my free hotdog
02:08 < hprmbridge> wtfbro84> that ie bene promed
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03:12 < fenn> Ashstar: buy a pulse oximeter. they're super cheap and give objective, reliable, and actionable data 
03:14 < fenn> jeez $6 for an OLED screen pulse oximeter. that's worth it for the screen alone almost
03:21 < fenn> hmm OLED displays are cheap again, down to $2 shipped
03:32 < muurkha> they still use too much power, but they sure are pretty
03:47 < fenn> no AI powered tamagotchi is complete without one
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05:38 < fenn> i dunno why i bought any of this... it's so cheap i can't help myself https://fennetic.net/irc/electronics_shopping_list.txt
05:50 < muurkha> wow, nice.  I dunno why you only bought 1 of each thing
05:51 < muurkha> I'd say data acquisition and real-time control
06:17 < fenn> there's some kind of 3d cartesian robot buried in there
06:20 < fenn> it's all for prototyping anyway. if i built a functional prototype and wanted to make more, i'd get a batch of boards made and at least the SMD stuff assembled at jlcpcb
09:04 < hprmbridge> nmz787> All the cheap pulse oximeters have such varied reviews, it sucks
09:05 < hprmbridge> nmz787> I ended up buying two last month, one from grocery store for like $25, and another from oxiline for like $80 (which said it has some sort of FDA clearance thing)
09:05 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Testing showed they didn't correlate with each other that well
09:06 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Which wasn't very settling when my kid was suffering pneumonia
09:06 < hprmbridge> nmz787> With doctor-office tested low blood Oxygen level
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10:25 < hprmbridge> jay_dugger> Any suggestions on brands to avoid?
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13:18 < hprmbridge> nmz787> No, just that regardless of Amazon or local-store reviews, there were polar opposite experiences of "wonderful" to "garbage"
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14:42 < L29Ah> > 2024
14:42 < L29Ah> > AVR
14:43 < L29Ah> ouch nvm
15:43 < Ashstar> yeah, got a Pulse Oximeter, fenn
15:44 < Ashstar> it was at 88% O2
15:46 < Ashstar> I could not lay down n sleep and get enough air
15:47 < Ashstar> could hear fluid in lungs, knew this flu had gone on to walking pneumonia
15:48 < Ashstar> usually a sign of a secondary infection, like bacterial
15:48 < Ashstar> likely
15:49 < Ashstar> I took some strong braod spectrum ntibiotics as well as decongestant
15:49 < Ashstar> antibiotics
15:50 < Ashstar> sat up the rest of the night, by the AM it was clearing
15:52 < Ashstar> thank Gaud for medicine
15:53 < Ashstar> modern medicine, vs getting bled like G. Washington, when he had pneumonia after a sore throat
15:54 < Ashstar> which killed him
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16:48 < L29Ah> Ashstar: are antibiotics sold otc in your country?
16:48 < L29Ah> here prescriptions are mandatory, and one needs to meet a local licensed meatbag doctor to get one
16:49 < Ashstar> no
16:50 < Ashstar> it is strickly prescipt
16:50 < Ashstar> Im just glad I had some left over
16:51 < Ashstar> good to have if there is an apocalypse
16:52 < Ashstar> or zombies
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18:00 < muurkha> 88% is pretty low
18:02 < muurkha> L29Ah: do you think it's worthwhile to have a stockpile in case of emergencies, and how would you go about getting the stockpile?
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18:13 < muurkha> possibly of interest to L29Ah and docl is vacuum-impregnating a sintered 3-d-printed part with waterglass: https://youtu.be/PAQlEH3IY-0
18:15 < fenn> you can buy some of the less sophisticated antibiotics in powder form for pigeons, or in capsule form for fish, on ebay. they only last a few years
18:15 < muurkha> oh really?  I had no idea!
18:15 < muurkha> the video claims you eliminate all porosity, but I think it's more likely that you reduce your porosity by about a third
18:16 < fenn> i think there is some policy against it because you have to use crazy keywords like "fish mox" or "aquamox"
18:16 < fenn> but as usual ebay is incompetent
18:17 < muurkha> it isn't in their interest to be too competent, it lowers their proits
18:17 < muurkha> *profits
18:19 < Ashstar> also, large feed supply stores have some
18:19 < fenn> lmao this is straight up bribery: "Biaxin (Clarithromycin Tablets). Adv. By Abbott Labs. Promo Phone Card 10 min prepaid"
18:20 < fenn> also, 10 minutes wtf
18:20 < fenn> not much of a bribe is it
18:21 < muurkha> I wonder what the shibboleths are in Spanish
18:21 < muurkha> presumably the fish mox dosage is too small for a human?
18:22 < fenn> i have descended into some weird 1990s AI generated retro internet https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/4EcAAOSwPEtlH3cD/s-l1600.jpg
18:22 < L29Ah> muurkha: i think it is if it's hard to obtain at your place; idk, someday i'll get some from someone traveling to .ru or such, i hope
18:23 < L29Ah> fenn: pretty sure they last a lot longer in a freezer
18:24 < fenn> oops
18:24 < muurkha> L29Ah: that seems reasonable
18:24 < muurkha> fenn: haha
18:25 < muurkha> fenn: are they actually including the clarithromycin with the album?
18:25 < muurkha> or is it just a hypothetical product image dreamed up by Stable Diffusion?
18:26 < fenn> it's a real CD-ROM from abbott laboratories, presumably as a way to remind doctors that their product exists
18:27 < muurkha> ahh
18:27 < muurkha> like the calendars and whatnot
18:33 < fenn> https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_dkr=1&iconV2Request=true&_blrs=recall_filtering&_ssn=crownpetsupplies-com&store_cat=0&store_name=crownpetsupplies&_oac=1&_nkw=powder
18:33 < fenn> price has gone up a lot
18:35 < fenn> actually most of this is not antibiotics, sorry. "doxy-tyl" is doxycycline + tylosin
18:37 < muurkha> doxycycline is an antibiotic
18:39 < fenn> tylosin is also an antibiotic
18:42 < muurkha> I didn't know that
18:43 < fenn> there are more drugs available for animals than for humans
18:44 < muurkha> for nonhuman animals, really?  that's surprising.  I didn't know the humans cared that much about other animals
18:46 < fenn> well the end result is usually to kill and butcher them, but sure. humans care about other animals
18:46 < fenn> it's medicine without all that ethical overhead
18:47 < fenn> likewise, livestock feed is a real science, unlike human nutrition. they are actually able to do controlled experiments, and look at the results with a critical eye
18:52 < muurkha> yes, I have watched some very interesting and utterly revolting lectures about swine feed
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18:53 < muurkha> but I was thinking that if a dairy cow gets breast cancer she probably isn't going to get a six-month course of chemotherapy and radiation
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19:26 < fenn> apparently cows with tumors are "condemned"
19:30 < fenn> they are afraid of oncovirus transmission
19:30 < fenn> the policy doesn't sound very logical
19:33 < muurkha> what I mean is that there are a wide variety of medical conditions which the humans treat with drugs in other humans and treat with death in nonhuman animals
20:03 < Ashstar> speaking cows
20:03 < Ashstar> yesterday cow gave birth
20:03 < Ashstar> cute little boy calf
20:03 < Ashstar> too bad 
20:04 < Ashstar> too
20:04 < Ashstar> destined for a short life
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20:46 < fenn> a sub $1 mp3 player https://www.ebay.com/itm/404297665997
20:48 < fenn> documentation https://wiki.dfrobot.com/DFPlayer_Mini_SKU_DFR0299
20:50 < muurkha> that's cool
20:50 < muurkha> I assume it's a preprogrammed microcontroller?
20:53 < muurkha> it says its OSHW but I can't find links to a BOM or schematics
20:59 < fenn> it's an ASIC, YX5200-24SS, but i can't find any info about it other than from the developer, who is clearly screenshotting from a datasheet pdf in the documentation
20:59 < fenn> another board using the chip https://wiki.keyestudio.com/KS0387_keyestudio_YX5200-24SS_MP3_Module
21:09 < fenn> ah the screenshot was from the keyestudio pdf
21:14 < fenn> you're probably right that it's a microcontroller; there's an accessory called "AD key" which is a bunch of switches connected with R2R ladders so you can address a whole array of buttons with just 2 pins
21:26 < muurkha> interesting, I'd written about that approach in Dercuano but I didn't know anyone had implemented it in real life
21:27 < fenn> https://www.dfrobot.com/product-2267.html
21:27 < fenn> .t
21:27 < EmmyNoether> Fermion:ADKey Board with10 Keys for Arduino - DFRobot
21:28 < fenn> of course being open source hardware it has a pitch black solder mask :)
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