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01:55 < jrayhawk> yeah, the VCS agnosticism really hurts ikiwiki
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03:50 < stipa> https://www.techspot.com/news/101581-researchers-develop-world-first-functioning-graphene-semiconductor.html
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08:10 < hprmbridge> astatineknight> https://thoughtforms.life/what-groups-of-embryos-know-toward-a-hyper-developmental-biology/
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09:43 < hprmbridge> kanzure> wake me up when levin actually succeeds at morphogenetic enfineering
09:44 < hprmbridge> kanzure> morphogenetic engineering, rather
10:12 < hprmbridge> astatineknight> not a fan I gather?
10:12 < hprmbridge> kanzure> well, I just want him to accomplish more
10:13 < hprmbridge> kanzure> for all the work on bioelectric fields we still don't have the ability to sculpt tissues. this indicates that the idea is wrong or something.
10:14 < hprmbridge> kanzure> xenobots was interesting I guess...
10:19 < hprmbridge> astatineknight> I would say the issue is a huge discrepancy in funding. Bioelectricity and biophotonics are a speck of dust compared to other areas in terms of money being poured in. Yet, as Levin and many before him, have demonstrated, genes only partially explain physiology and we still have no idea what life is. I commend him for consistently reminding the community that there is much more to be done and not
10:19 < hprmbridge> astatineknight> everything is genetics.
10:19 < hprmbridge> kanzure> I thought the embryo-surgical approach he talked about was interesting too
10:21 < hprmbridge> kanzure> the third eye tadpole was neat, I think a lot of the old surgical studies from the 1920s and 1930s have otherwise been forgotten
10:28 < hprmbridge> astatineknight> True. Becker makes a phenomenal point in The Body Electric about how the view about what life is, was explored from all fields of science equally until the discovery of antibiotics that shifted everything into the chemical realm. DNA cemented the „chemical“ origin of life and sidestepping everything else. That was certainly justified and led the biomedical revolution, however there are still rooms
10:28 < hprmbridge> astatineknight> to be explored in this simulation.
10:33 < hprmbridge> Katylase> Does it involve Cas? (You interrupted me watching a Jenny Doudna lecture on youtube)🤭
10:33 < hprmbridge> kanzure> not always
10:34 < hprmbridge> kanzure> splicing used to be a thing, before cas9
10:35 < hprmbridge> Katylase> Also,I drew them😄 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064664282450628710/1198697502933798982/IMG_2600.jpg?ex=65bfd90b&is=65ad640b&hm=68413d221b4943df514079c1ffe102b2f5203ed39977592b3818492d38fdff0e&
10:37 < hprmbridge> Katylase> (Cas's scarf is made of RNA...🤭)
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12:18 < hprmbridge> Eli> hasnt he only been working on it a few years?
12:19 < hprmbridge> Eli> nice job katylase! I think you could make a nice biology book with your drawings.
12:58 < hprmbridge> Eli> Pretty interesting. Seems like the communication might be similar to how yeast cells and bacteria work in different environments. Seems reasonable that they would have evolved in ways to maintain a homeostatic set point in different ecological conditions. Also, I had not considered the anesthesiology perspective. Anesthesiology has somehow remained a mystery despite us using it for over 100 years.
12:58 < hprmbridge> Eli> It's an interesting idea that shutting down cell signaling may be preventing emergent complexity that we recognize as consciousness. Speaking as a complete moron, I wonder if we can use anesthesiology compounds to prevent biofilms.
13:01 < hprmbridge> Eli> btw, when does this guy even sleep?
13:01 < hprmbridge> kanzure> sleep?
13:03 < L29Ah> anesthesiology compounds are decent organic solvents, pretty sure they inhibit a lot of biofilms
13:05 < Lando-SpacePimp> L29Ah, you ever heard of Sugondesia?
13:14 < hprmbridge> Eli> he churns out a lot of material
13:15 < hprmbridge> Eli> I don't know anything about the field of anesthesiology. Speaking as a complete moron, how do they work on the human brain without causing problems?
13:20 < L29Ah> general anesthetics do cause lots of problems, including long-term cognitive impairment
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13:32 < hprmbridge> Eli> thats true. I recently had a combo of versed and fentanyl in a novel form of back surgery. I woke up and explained to the nurses how Chuck Norris once defeated a bear.
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15:23 < Ashstar> lol
15:24 < Ashstar> Fentanyl allowed Norris to Grin and Bear it
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15:38 < hprmbridge> Eli> well, there is an amazing video clip on youtube of chuck defeating a bear. And apparently people in south america watch the show so that was the background context.
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15:50 < Ashstar> they also watch Lucha Libre where men wear weird masks and pretend to beat each other up
15:51 < Ashstar> believe it real
15:52 < Ashstar> must have been a fentanyl sedated bear
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17:28 < Lando-SpacePimp> wrestling is real!
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20:03 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "The architecture of a biologically plausible language organ" https://arxiv.org/abs/2306.15364
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22:10 < Ashstar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2XUgE6g7XU
22:13 < muurkha> you seem to have pasted a bare URL
22:13 < muurkha> do you expect people to click on it to find out what it is?
22:16 < Ashstar> Chuck Norris vs Bear
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23:03 < muurkha> oh
23:17 < Hooloovoo> the arxiv one seems way more interesting
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