--- Log opened Mon Feb 12 00:00:56 2024 00:37 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:08 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has left #hplusroadmap [] 04:36 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:40 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: hellleshin, drmeister_, TMM_, saxo, sivoais, superkuh, andytoshi, docl, gwillen 06:40 -!- Netsplit over, joins: docl 06:40 -!- Netsplit over, joins: saxo, andytoshi, drmeister_ 06:41 -!- Netsplit over, joins: gwillen 06:41 -!- Netsplit over, joins: hellleshin 06:41 -!- Netsplit over, joins: TMM_ 06:50 -!- sivoais [~zaki@199.19.225.239] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:01 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@user/superkuh] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:24 < L29Ah> https://www.phoronix.com/review/radeon-cuda-zluda 07:31 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@user/andytoshi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:04 -!- faceface [~faceface@user/faceface] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 09:13 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 09:13 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:47 < hprmbridge> Eli> Looks like they made a correction to the Sweedish study using the following very confusing terminology: ```Belonging to the lowest quintiles of total cholesterol and iron or the highest quintiles of glucose, uric acid, gamma-glutamyl transferase, alkaline phosphatase, lactate dehydrogenase, and total iron-binding capacity was associated with a lower likelihood of reaching 100 years. For 09:47 < hprmbridge> Eli> creatinine, both the highest and second highest quintiles were associated with a lower chance of reaching age 100, and for aspartate aminotransferase the highest and lowest quintiles were associated with a lower likelihood of reaching 100 years.``` 09:47 < hprmbridge> Eli> https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11357-023-00996-y 09:48 < hprmbridge> Eli> What are we to make of this data? Out of shape, overweight people with failing kidneys die sooner? Is there anything else that stands out? 09:49 < hprmbridge> Eli> Glucose issues could also be due to sarcopenia due to muscles being the largest glucose sink. 09:54 < hprmbridge> Eli> Not sure why the lowest total cholesterol quintile made people less likely to become centenarians? It would be more interesting if they went deeper into that data by analyzing HDL, different LDLs, Lpa, apoB, etc ... 09:59 -!- AugustaAva [~x@yoke.ch0wn.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:59 -!- gptpaste [~x@yoke.ch0wn.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:47 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@user/andytoshi] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:16 -!- Guest15 [~Guest42@d-216-36-12-153.md.cpe.atlanticbb.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:16 -!- Guest15 [~Guest42@d-216-36-12-153.md.cpe.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Client Quit] 15:36 -!- saxo [~saxo@tea.infomesh.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:36 -!- saxo [~saxo@tea.infomesh.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:03 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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