--- Log opened Wed Feb 14 00:00:58 2024 00:01 -!- Gooberpatrol66 [~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:41 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:12 < hprmbridge> kanzure> no hardcopies of KSRM are currently available anywhere 02:23 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "hyperstition" 02:44 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:57 -!- cc0 is now known as cc0_delthas 05:13 < kanzure> "... plasma proteins, GFAP, NEFL, GDF15 and LTBP2 consistently associated most with incident all-cause dementia (ACD), Alzheimer’s disease (AD) and vascular dementia (VaD), and ranked high in protein importance ordering." https://www.nature.com/articles/s43587-023-00565-0 06:10 < geneh2> the bunny book? I knew someone who bought it 06:10 < kanzure> i wonder where all the copies went 06:11 < kanzure> all but nanodust now 06:15 < geneh2> all bought up probably. Better set up an ebay alert. 06:16 < geneh2> really regret not getting advanced automation for space missions on ebay when I saw it 06:16 < kanzure> oh that one had a physical form? 06:56 -!- WiredSoul [~WiredSoul@2a02:c7c:5d2a:8600:a14b:387:765e:d1da] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:09 < kanzure> hello WiredSoul 07:10 < WiredSoul> Hi all 07:12 < WiredSoul> Im interested in nootropic regimens, research into intelligence and improving intelligence through medication, lifestyle changes and technology 07:13 < WiredSoul> I'm interested in anyones current mind/body enhancement methodologies or projects 07:13 < WiredSoul> Body implants too. 07:33 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:35 < L29Ah> WiredSoul: what's your current aerobics routine? 07:38 < WiredSoul> I do hit training twice a week, weightlifting 3 times a week and yoga/stretching daily currently, I haven't tried aerobics. 07:38 < L29Ah> hit training? 07:39 < WiredSoul> High Interval Training for cardio 07:40 < WiredSoul> 1 minute intense effort 1 minute moderate effort alternated over 15 mintutes 07:40 < L29Ah> ah, HIIT, great 07:40 < WiredSoul> or some variation 07:40 < WiredSoul> Ah sorry HIIT :) 07:41 < WiredSoul> What's the benefit of Aerobics? 07:43 < L29Ah> nvm, seems like i used "aerobics" as a synonym of "aerobic/cardio training" that it isn't 08:29 < WiredSoul> No worries, do you dable in nootropics at all? 08:32 < WiredSoul> Anyone have any experience with TMS? Transcranial magnestic stimulation? 08:32 < WiredSoul> *magnetic 08:33 < hprmbridge> kanzure> ASML deets https://twitter.com/8teAPi/status/1757665086783807879 08:33 < hprmbridge> kanzure> > why do you have 5k suppliers ? 08:33 < hprmbridge> kanzure> > each with sporadic and small volume? 08:33 < hprmbridge> kanzure> > why didn’t you pull an SpaceX and vertically integrate 08:33 < hprmbridge> kanzure> > are you really managing the suppliers and quality as well as you could? 08:33 < hprmbridge> kanzure> 08:33 < hprmbridge> kanzure> > software.. 08:33 < hprmbridge> kanzure> > 20 million lines of code without test cases? 08:33 < hprmbridge> kanzure> > only senior folks can touch code 08:34 < hprmbridge> kanzure> software at ASML: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064664282450628710/1207364228407627856/image0.jpg?ex=65df608f&is=65cceb8f&hm=df7be9611f72868acc7bb89b9e11e93680a38e1fb8c4e8d779ef26651c5e98e4& 08:34 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "There doesn’t seem to be a Wright’s law optimization at work here and the 5k suppliers and 20 million lines of code with no test cases are clear red flags. 08:34 < hprmbridge> kanzure> 08:34 < hprmbridge> kanzure> This sounds very similar to Lockheed-Boeing pre SpaceX. You can sense the previous engineering milieu.. the large systems integrator buying parts from many firms, without good cost control and a surplus of extraneous parts because no one is certain what is really necessary and what is not. 08:34 < hprmbridge> kanzure> 08:34 < hprmbridge> kanzure> So far only Elon has been able to unentangle old school engineering through sheer dint of will and large amounts of capital. 08:34 < hprmbridge> kanzure> 08:34 < hprmbridge> kanzure> If you can’t add test cases.. do you really think they’ll allow you to delete parts and steps ?" 08:49 -!- autopilot [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has quit [Quit: 1D092 subscribes to dens creeps and burrows 2024-02-14 16:49:38:144] 09:11 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has left #hplusroadmap [] 09:12 -!- Mabel [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:15 -!- SDr9 is now known as SDr 09:15 -!- SDr [~SDr@user/sdr] has changed host 09:30 -!- cthlolo [~lorogue@77.33.24.3.dhcp.fibianet.dk] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:30 -!- VincentLaw [~WiredSoul@185.195.232.176] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:33 -!- WiredSoul [~WiredSoul@2a02:c7c:5d2a:8600:a14b:387:765e:d1da] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:37 -!- VincentLaw [~WiredSoul@185.195.232.176] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:39 -!- WiredSoul [~WiredSoul@185.195.232.176] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:57 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:02 < hprmbridge> Eli> Um, ya, don’t do it without a doctor who knows what they’re doing 11:03 < hprmbridge> Eli> Focus on optimizing sleep, diet, and exercise first; in that order 11:07 < hprmbridge> alethkit> fenn: The issue is presumably developing the right type theory/constraints system given physical laws 11:08 < hprmbridge> alethkit> apparently ab initio materials science is just not a thing 11:30 -!- cthlolo [~lorogue@77.33.24.3.dhcp.fibianet.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:33 -!- Guest24 [~Guest24@2409:40e2:29:310b:8000::] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:36 -!- Guest24 [~Guest24@2409:40e2:29:310b:8000::] has quit [Client Quit] 12:26 -!- WiredSoul [~WiredSoul@185.195.232.176] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:26 -!- WiredSoul [~WiredSoul@185.195.232.176] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:44 -!- WiredSoul [~WiredSoul@185.195.232.176] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:47 -!- WiredSoul [~WiredSoul@138.199.6.240] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:48 -!- WiredSoul [~WiredSoul@138.199.6.240] has quit [Client Quit] 13:06 -!- WiredSouls [~WiredSoul@user/WiredSoul] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:07 -!- WiredSouls [~WiredSoul@user/WiredSoul] has quit [Client Quit] 13:08 -!- WiredSoul [~WiredSoul@user/WiredSoul] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:25 -!- WiredSoul [~WiredSoul@user/WiredSoul] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:34 -!- WiredSoul [~WiredSoul@user/WiredSoul] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:56 -!- boxy [~box@86.120.225.32] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:56 -!- pasky [~pasky@nikam.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:00 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 15:00 -!- TMM_ [hp@amanda.tmm.cx] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:08 -!- pasky [~pasky@nikam.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:10 -!- WiredSoul [~WiredSoul@user/WiredSoul] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:24 < L29Ah> https://www.lifespan.io/news/patrick-linden-describes-why-death-is-bad/ 15:24 < L29Ah> tfw the anti-deathist propaganda pamphlet starts from $31 a file 15:30 < L29Ah> at least it's present on libgen 16:34 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-200.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:10 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has left #hplusroadmap [] 17:11 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:21 < fenn> i dont understand the point he's trying to convey here: 18:22 < fenn> "One of the most striking, yet most self-evident ideas is that population growth, the anti-longevity crowd’s favorite scarecrow, has almost everything to do with fertility and very little to do with longevity. Even if people will live infinitely longer than they do today, but will keep having around two children per woman, we will only see an initial bump in population numbers, when the first 18:22 < fenn> “immortal” cohort doesn’t die. There will be no overpopulation." 18:23 < fenn> without a death rate to counteract the birth rate, instead of leveling off, the population would continue to grow linearly at whatever the fertility rate is 18:24 < fenn> i say linear because the breeding fraction of the population decreases 18:24 < fenn> it's technically wrong but meh 18:26 < fenn> anyway, the old people accumulate, the young people breed and eventually add to the old people. that seems to be an increasing population, so i'm confused by what the "self-evident idea" is 18:27 < fenn> is he saying the death rate will eventually catch up again to the birth rate, because our anti-aging tech sucks in the long term? that's not really what i signed up for 18:30 < fenn> saying stuff like "Japan is actually at risk of being underpopulated" is not helping the case 18:30 < fenn> japan's geezers rely on young people to care for them, because they're disabled by aging 18:31 < fenn> that doesn't mean we need more children, it means we need to stop people being disabled! 18:32 < fenn> japan is crammed to the gills with people, it's comical 18:33 < fenn> there are now "free house" programs in rural japanese villages, not because the population has decreased but because there is no economic opportunity in rural villages 18:33 < fenn> i'm not sure how japan missed out on remote work 18:37 < fenn> population projection for different regions in japan https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4315/35276650454_20a5a94386_b.jpg 18:38 < fenn> and on a longer timeline https://www.statista.com/graphic/1/1066956/population-japan-historical.jpg 18:41 < fenn> map view of population change in japan 2010-2017 https://i.redd.it/nf2x783suwa31.png 19:13 < fenn> japan population graph on an even longer timescale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Historical_population_of_Japan.svg 19:15 < fenn> if the tokugawa period (1600-1868) was so stable and good for development and progress and so on, then why was the population declining? 19:17 -!- srk_ [~sorki@user/srk] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:20 -!- srk| [~sorki@user/srk] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:20 -!- srk [~sorki@user/srk] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:22 -!- srk_ [~sorki@user/srk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:23 -!- srk| is now known as srk 19:39 -!- srk_ [~sorki@user/srk] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:41 -!- srk [~sorki@user/srk] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:42 -!- srk_ is now known as srk 19:45 -!- srk_ [~sorki@user/srk] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:47 -!- srk [~sorki@user/srk] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:48 -!- srk_ is now known as srk 20:22 -!- Mabel [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has quit [Quit: 2EE4 recompile 2024-02-15 04:22:54:156] 20:27 -!- Mabel [~Malvolio@idlerpg/player/Malvolio] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:40 -!- mxz [~mxz@user/mxz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:45 -!- dustinm [~dustinm@95.217.6.38] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:47 -!- mxz [~mxz@user/mxz] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:47 -!- cthlolo [~lorogue@77.33.24.3] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:49 -!- dustinm [~dustinm@static.38.6.217.95.clients.your-server.de] has joined #hplusroadmap --- Log closed Thu Feb 15 00:00:59 2024