--- Log opened Sun Mar 10 00:00:22 2024 00:08 -!- justanot1 [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:09 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:51 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:57 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:57 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:58 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:36 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:48 -!- justanot1 [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:58 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:27 -!- cthlolo [~lorogue@77.33.24.3.dhcp.fibianet.dk] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:36 -!- darius___ [~darius@2605:a601:aad3:ed00:781b:46d7:baad:4340] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:41 -!- darius__ [~darius@2605:a601:aad3:ed00:3828:9ffa:660a:58da] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:43 -!- yorick [~yorick@user/yorick] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.1.1] 05:45 -!- yorick [~yorick@user/yorick] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:48 -!- L29Ah [~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:53 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@user/andytoshi] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:02 -!- _flood [flooded@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/flood/x-43489060] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:03 -!- catalase [catalase@freebnc.bnc4you.xyz] has quit [Quit: Stable ZNC by #bnc4you] 08:04 -!- catalase [catalase@freebnc.bnc4you.xyz] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:11 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Radon health mine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jt4ZH2CgfY 11:04 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "zigong daode" https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1007117 11:04 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://tieba.baidu.com/p/2265974839?cid=0&pid=31434742961#31434742961 11:05 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "The earliest use of uterine morality I’ve found was in a 2013 thread on the Baidu Feminism Tieba forum titled, “Women Should Establish ‘Morals of the Uterus.’” In it, the author makes a modest proposal: “The uterus is a holy site of human evolution, not a toxic factory for churning out garbage or petulant kids. Because women bear this huge responsibility, they should establish a system of uterine 11:05 < hprmbridge> kanzure> morals. For instance, births should be ‘neither random nor rampant,’ and (women should) ‘bear and rear better children.’”" 11:06 < hprmbridge> kanzure> "In essence, for a woman to have good uterine morals, she must take responsibility for her future children and pick a good-looking, intelligent, strong, financially sound man with no family history of genetic disorders. To advocates, this is common sense: a form of genetic selection intended to ensure that future generations evolve into healthy, beautiful, and intelligent beings. Some frame it as 11:06 < hprmbridge> kanzure> protecting the so-called rights of the unborn child. “Only women with a sense of ‘uterine morality’ truly love their children,” wrote one Weibo blogger. “They reject ugly, poor, sick, and abusive men, and they would never hurt their own descendants just to satisfy their sexual perversions.”" 11:30 -!- dustinm- [~dustinm@static.38.6.217.95.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:45 -!- dustinm [~dustinm@static.38.6.217.95.clients.your-server.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:12 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:57 -!- cthlolo [~lorogue@77.33.24.3.dhcp.fibianet.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:52 < fenn> a hardware repository https://search.openknowhow.org/ 15:54 < fenn> um, project listing, not repository 15:54 < fenn> the fancy things have their own websites 16:04 < L29Ah> https://www.yeggi.com Search Engine for 3D Models 16:05 < fenn> i picked a random project and it actually has halfway decent documentation https://build.openflexure.org/openflexure-microscope/v7.0.0-beta1/ 16:06 < TMA> `/win 39 16:06 < TMA> sorry 17:00 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@gateway/tor-sasl/justanotheruser] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:01 < hprmbridge> Eli> This is basically a rewriting of Richard Dawkins mating strategies in the selfish gene book 17:09 < fenn> "They reject ugly, poor, sick, and abusive men" so basically what they were doing anyway 17:13 < fenn> unfortunately for the looks-obsessed chinese "feminists", the genes which make good looking men and the genes which make good looking women are not compatible 17:15 < fenn> based on this one article, it sounds like these people are extremely toxic and abusive. i wouldn't want to associate with them, even if they do support eugenics 17:20 < hprmbridge> Eli> Historically, wouldn’t the looks of our ancestors just be an evolutionary marker of fitness and ability to propagate a female’s DNA? Women are subconsciously looking for signs of parasite load, nutritional deficiency, normal hormonal development, etc … and it would have been in a much smaller dating pool than we have today. And they didn’t have memes so having children before they died at 40 would 17:20 < hprmbridge> Eli> be one of the few enjoyable things they could do. 17:21 < fenn> of course they had memes 17:21 < hprmbridge> Eli> Not like today’s memes. 17:21 < fenn> beauty standards being one such relevant meme 17:21 < fenn> you literally just mentioned dawkins 17:22 < hprmbridge> Eli> I don’t mean Dawkins memes so much as todays culturally defined memes, I probably could have written my statements better I admit 17:23 < fenn> the "died at 40" thing is also not accurate, it is a result of averaging with high rates of infant mortality 17:23 < hprmbridge> Eli> That is true. 17:24 < fenn> yes looks are strongly correlated with health. it's not clear to me how much role heredity plays 17:25 < hprmbridge> Eli> At the same time, I will basically sprain my ankle just when I’m watching sports on TV. So the 40 year old thing is more like “natures done with you”. Women have a massive fertility cliff at she’s 34-36 17:26 < fenn> i recall reading something about how ukrainians have more estrogen than average, which is why the women are so beautiful and the men are not (subject to population variance of course) 17:27 < fenn> and some other ethnicity with handsome men and not so handsome women 17:28 < fenn> there were actual measurable hormonal differences in the averages 18:14 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-112-12-36.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:16 < fenn> what is the use case for this self-destruct chip? it claims to prevent "counterfeit chips" - "When you're done with a part, it's destroyed in a way that renders it useless," but wouldn't that mean it's just a used chip, not a counterfeit? 19:16 < fenn> https://www.techradar.com/pro/self-destruct-chips-could-help-combat-a-criminal-plague-that-costs-businesses-billions-every-year-new-technique-could-mitigate-counterfeiting-through-electromigration 19:16 < fenn> or is it just that they're using electromigration for both the physically unclonable function generation and the self destruct mechanism? 19:18 < fenn> it links to https://spectrum.ieee.org/hardwired-to-self-destruct 19:21 -!- Mabel is now known as MARVEST 19:23 < hprmbridge> kanzure> a puf doesn't ensure anything 19:24 < hprmbridge> kanzure> er 21:14 -!- mxz [~mxz@user/mxz] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:15 -!- MARVEST is now known as Mabel 22:33 < hprmbridge> nmz787> I've seen some ugly parents have ugly kids 22:33 < hprmbridge> nmz787> But yes, it could be nutrition culture/habits and not genetics 22:40 < fenn> but like, what do they expect exactly? single mothers raising sperm donor kids with the earnings from delaying child rearing for your career? 22:40 < fenn> it's entirely anti-family 22:41 < fenn> there are reasons to marry someone besides their looks, i'm annoyed i even have to say this 22:42 < fenn> meanwhile the same people are mocking some guy in england who has 17 kids with 3 women (2 wives apparently) and then set fire to his house to get social security money or something, killing 6 of his kids 22:43 < fenn> isn't that exactly what they want though? 22:44 < fenn> you either have hypergamy or sperm donation, we haven't developed spermatogenesis tech yet, and cloning is illegal and possibly dysgenic 22:45 < fenn> all this is completely stupid too, because we can just edit the genome to improve it, and the results would be far better than anything that could ever be accomplished by social shame 23:20 -!- mxz [~mxz@user/mxz] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:28 < hprmbridge> nmz787> You say this as a person who didn't seem to suffer thinning hair or receding hairline. I'm not sure if there's more to the hair loss story than looks, but it feels like a legit reason for me to question procreation, or generally having descendants. 23:29 < hprmbridge> nmz787> Like, if I was a program running unit tests, I'd fail and the hair bug would be fixed and my broken lineage forgotten in past commit messages. --- Log closed Mon Mar 11 00:00:23 2024