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09:25 < hprmbridge> nmz787> watching this blue LED documentary after ignoring it in a few other chatrooms, until a co-worker told me yesterday when we were talking about gas/fluid dynamics negative implications in a CVD chamber, depending on the process gas "showerhead"/inlet geometry/design https://youtu.be/AF8d72mA41M
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09:37 < fenn> creepy charismatic robot bartender figure 01: https://youtu.be/Sq1QZB5baNw
09:44 < hprmbridge> kanzure> that's robo-racism, he's not creepy he's awesome
09:45 < hprmbridge> kanzure> I thought you were a robo-psychologist?
10:01 < hprmbridge> jay_dugger> Hello, everyone.
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11:18 < hprmbridge> kanzure> be greeted
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11:50 < adlai> fenn: have you read robot chronicles?
11:51 < adlai> the reason for my question is a spoiler, so if anyone is really worried about those, don't read the logs
11:53 < adlai> tl;dr outside of academia, Professor Asimov [the chemist!] is famous for the "laws of robotics", rather than e.g. popularising practical megastructures
11:53 < adlai> universities atrophy your imagination, sadly.
11:55 < adlai> kanzure: I didn't understand whether yousa and gnusha have any previously-articulated policy for when some niche is considered worth spending joules to hashstamp.
11:57 < adlai> worth comparing your current artstate with the original deedbot commissioned by Mircea Popescu, which actively bled coins in the interest of being a minimal amount of work to actually launch and verify.
11:58  * adlai has not audited gnusha's timestamp mechanism, although it probably has time-linear opex
11:59 < adlai> i.e., cost to operate for one week should be slightly less than 2% of the cost to operate for one year
12:00 < adlai> ... without any other dependency, since computing the hashes is probably a rounding error compared to the actual timestamping transaction.
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13:20 < jrayhawk> opentimestamps is a merkle tree anchored into the bitcoin block chain; it has near-zero marginal cost to add more objects to the tree.
13:21 < jrayhawk> the anchoring is the only thing that has cost
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13:24 < jrayhawk> the anchoring schedule depends on how much bitcoin people throw at petertodd
13:25 < hprmbridge> kanzure> it's a public service operated by petertodd
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16:23 < fenn> i don't remember anything in the asimov books about this smooth faceless look. i imagined they had faces just like humans, maybe a bit rubbery or different in some way, but not a blank black screen
16:26 < fenn> i had this book with an illustration of a robot, this particular robot was an early model and chose to keep his appearance through the singularity https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/651964.The_Positronic_Man
16:27 < fenn> vernor vinge is also famous for popularizing concepts besides practical megastructures, what's your point?
16:33 < L29Ah> https://www.scirp.org/pdf/ijaa_2023062115280080.pdf
16:38 < fenn> naquadria
16:59 < fenn> his mars society talk has some fun anecdotes about los alamos physicists' eyes bugging out when they see the data, then ducking back into the classified section of the library to double check
17:24 < jrayhawk> do you have a link to that?
17:55 < fenn> i skimmed through 3 different talks but none of them were the one i remembered watching a few years ago
18:28 < fenn> i went through all of the mars society conference playlists and searched through them manually, but i didn't find the talk by brandenberg so i assume it was taken down. this is odd because there are other talks by brandenberg on the same topic that are still up, e.g. https://youtu.be/llVD5FulB_I
18:28 < fenn> or is it brandenburg, i dunno
18:37 < fenn> in the missing talk he calculated the size of the bomb and it was very large, like hundreds of thousands of tons, three or four of them
19:13 < hprmbridge> kanzure> meh https://www.anandtech.com/show/21304/first-dna-data-storage-specification-released-first-step-towards-commercialization
19:13 < hprmbridge> kanzure> this is very linear thinking in a highly parallel media
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22:29 < fenn> in 2022: "More than half of AI researchers state a 50% chance that highly general, human-level AI will exist by 2059"
22:29 < fenn> what are the other 50% even DOING
22:30 < fenn> less than half. you know what i mean
22:33 < fenn> in 2023 it moved up to 2040
22:33 < fenn> when do these lines cross :D
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