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01:19 < fenn> can't believe i'm reading this: https://www.aaro.mil/Portals/136/PDFs/UAP_RECORDS_RESEARCH/AARO_DHS_Kona_Blue.pdf
01:19 < fenn> make sure your UFO related injury treatments are HIPAA compliant
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01:45 < fenn> some juicy phrases:
01:45 < fenn> "AATIP ... will provide the U.S. with a distinct advantage over any foreign threats"
01:48 < fenn> "temporal translation", "Advanced Space Propulsion Based on Vacuum (Spacetime Metric)", "Given the current rate of success, the continued study of these subjects will likely lead to technology advancements"
01:49 < fenn> "Bigelow Ranch in Utah, the San Juan Valley in Colorado, and Marley's Woods in Missouri"
01:52 < fenn> "A four hundred eighty-acre research property in Utah with a fifteen year history of intensive anomalous activity"
01:53 < fenn> "indiviuals who have had close encounters with AAVs with physiological/medical effects, and family members of either of these groups who have reported subsequent physiological/medical effects"
01:54 < fenn> "contract research experts to handle, examine and research unusual and unique biological specimens at the forensic, anatomic, physiological, biochemical, and genetic levels."
01:55 < fenn> "to date, some evidence points to non-ionizing (EM) radiation associated injuries"
01:56 < fenn> "Extend remote communication programs to communicate and retrieve data across dimensional/space-time barrier."
01:56 < fenn> "Study consciousness interactions with, and control of, technology."
01:57 < fenn> "physical transport across dimensional/space-time barrier (as opposed to communication and data transfer only)."
02:00 < fenn> man this whole report is an amazing exercise in linguistic contortion in order to not say what "it" is
02:02 < fenn> "Remote vision, remote communication, and de/re-materialization techniques to observe, communicate, retrieve data, and transfer matter across dimensional and space-time barriers"
02:03 < fenn> "Recovered AAV technology exists and is accessible only within a SAP construct"
02:04 < fenn> they seem to confirm the theory that contractors such as Bigelow are used to store UFO data so that it can't be "leaked" via FOIA requests
02:05 < fenn> because then it's "Bigelow's data" not "US government data"
05:30 < hprmbridge> kanzure> http://apm.bplaced.net/w/index.php?title=Venus
05:30 < hprmbridge> kanzure> http://apm.bplaced.net/w/index.php?title=Geoengineering_mesh
05:30 < hprmbridge> kanzure> http://apm.bplaced.net/w/index.php?title=Atmospheric_mesh
06:36 < kanzure> jrayhawk: https://gist.github.com/JD-P/915ab877c20774d0d8690bd0b95ab061
06:36 < kanzure> also, we should fix mechadense's SSL cert issue and/or backup his wiki
06:36 < kanzure> mechadense uploaded a 2022-10-14 copy here https://archive.org/details/apm-wiki
06:55 < kanzure> $ sha256sum mechadense-apm-wiki.2022-10-14.zip
06:55 < kanzure> 6c54037cff3cb92f06bf3f7cd72e011aea00f9e8335b64d93142a1fead854925
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10:51 < hprmbridge> Eli> Non-ionizing injuries? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
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15:20 < fenn> neuralyzer?
15:21 < fenn> the idea is that certain types of humans are mistaken by the UFO authentication/control electronics as aliens, it does a handshake with their brain and then accidentally(?) overloads the human brain somehow
15:22 < fenn> thus "havana syndrome"
15:24 < fenn> well, other cases like havana syndrome
15:30 < hprmbridge> yashgaroth> what is the theory about using contractors to store data to avoid FOIA requests? Surely all UFO data is above top secret, it's not like people steal data from the CIA through FOIA
15:57 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://www.lfs.org/blog/review-devon-eriksens-theft-of-fire-blends-hard-sf-romance-mystery-suspense-and-comedy-in-story-of-conflict-and-cooperation/
16:16 < hprmbridge> kanzure> https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/mark-zuckerberg
16:27 < fenn> @yashgaroth it's not like the entire government is one unified entity. this is also a strategy for hiding data when another faction passes legislation like https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/publications/intelligence-authorization-act-fiscal-year-2021 (search "Unidientified") and then they'd be forced to present the data they have to the proper officials above them in the government
16:28 < fenn> it's very unclear what the different factions are and why they have different goals, but it does seem obvious that there is conflict
16:29 < fenn> no matter what, you have to admit that this report was published by an official government source
16:30 < fenn> either 1) senator harry reid and the DHS department is a bunch of cranks and fools, 2) there's a massive psy-op pushing a false UFO narrative to distract from something else, or 3) there really are aliens doing time travel and trans-dimensional barrier crossing and shape shifting wolves etc.
16:31 < fenn> if i missed a logical possibility i'd like to hear it
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18:38 < hprmbridge> Eli> Could be all three. I showed my dad the Lemino YouTube video of UFOs because I think that is the best summary of the air force contacts with them along with the video footage. The ones on the east coast were subsonic and spherical and in a racetrack pattern. He said usually spheres are for radar testing, so it could be that. The west coast contacts are pretty anomalous and we don’t have a good
18:38 < hprmbridge> Eli> explanation for them. Allegedly they were hypersonic or whatever is beyond hypersonic?
18:41 < hprmbridge> Eli> I guess it goes high hypersonic after Mach 10.  And they just list re entry speed after Mach 25
18:44 < hprmbridge> fodagut> fenn: there's a set of congressional representatives and senators that are cranks and fools, sadly
20:19 < gwillen> I'm pretty sure the government has no shortage of cranks and fools, yeah 
20:20 < gwillen> the easiest default explanation for apparently hypersonic entities is measurement error, and people like to say "oh no we're real confident it wasn't that" but it was probably that.
20:20 < gwillen> if the thing you're measuring is an artifact, the entity that isn't actually there can have arbitrary apparent properties.
20:22 < gwillen> there are definitely weird atmospheric phenomena that we can't model well, and that probably explains some stuff, but I think it's more likely the weird atmospheric phenomena caused sensor problems than were actually going at hypersonic speeds. Either way, not aliens.
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23:55 < hprmbridge> Eli> It’s an interesting question. I think the ships on the west coast were actually having their radars jammed by the objects which is considered an act of war. So it suggests someone was messing with them
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