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| kanzure | http://phy.asu.edu/shumway/codes/paths.html Open source path integral quantum Monte Carlo program. | 01:23 |
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| kanzure | How's that for awesome? | 01:23 |
| kanzure | https://wiki.asu.edu/pimc/index.php/Main_Page their wiki | 01:34 |
| kanzure | it mentions graphene :) | 01:34 |
| kanzure | Sigh. I still find nanohub.org to be unusable. Their interface is completely wacky, they don't know how to write valid HTML. But they have a very large list of simulation tools .... argh. | 01:35 |
| fenn | wow i never even though to look this up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-24-hour_sleep-wake_syndrome | 02:05 |
| kanzure | Heh. | 02:09 |
| kanzure | fenn: http://heybryan.org/shots/2008-03-29-30.png my current desktop | 02:09 |
| fenn | so, how goes the comp-chem? | 02:11 |
| kanzure | going quite well, want a link dump so far? | 02:11 |
| fenn | no, not really | 02:12 |
| * kanzure clears his paste buffer :( | 02:12 | |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/Computational_chem_linkdump | 02:15 |
| kanzure | 'night | 02:42 |
| fenn | nite | 02:42 |
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| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/transhumanism_def.html <-- I got bored, so I critiqued the Wikipedia article. | 16:58 |
| epitron | Some interesting excerpts from Charles Simonyi’s 1986 interview: | 17:43 |
| epitron | SML: Why is it taking so much time for progress to occur with computers: | 17:43 |
| epitron | Charles: Because a lot of dumb ideas have to die first. That’s why progress takes time. First, new ideas have to evolve, then the bad ideas that stop the progress have to die. Even with relativity and quantum mechanics, the good ideas had to crystallize. And then people with vested interest in the old physics had to die out. | 17:43 |
| epitron | haha | 17:43 |
| kanzure | epitron: Did you read my critique of the Wikipedia article? | 17:58 |
| kanzure | epitron: I figure it's right up your ally re: enhancement. | 17:59 |
| epitron | no, i'm currently looking at a bunch of google techtalks | 18:05 |
| epitron | i'll check it out later... | 18:05 |
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| kanzure | fenn_: http://heybryan.org/transhumanism_def.html | 20:05 |
| kanzure | and tonight's lecture on stem cells - http://heybryan.org/chats/2008-03-30-%23%23neuroscience_re_iPS_stem_cells.html | 20:06 |
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| kanzure | Hey Enki-2. | 21:25 |
| kanzure | Enki-2: would you read my h+ article critique? http://heybryan.org/transhumanism_def.html | 21:25 |
| Enki-2 | sure | 21:29 |
| Enki-2 | in a bit | 21:29 |
| * fenn looks | 21:32 | |
| fenn | shouldnt 1 be transhumanology and 2 be transhumanism? | 21:34 |
| kanzure | how so? | 21:37 |
| kanzure | how would 1 be transhumanology? | 21:37 |
| fenn | or maybe transhumaneering :P | 21:39 |
| fenn | isms are usually social or philosophical movements | 21:39 |
| fenn | whereas technical fields of study are not | 21:40 |
| kanzure | huh | 21:40 |
| kanzure | that is a good point | 21:40 |
| fenn | transhumaneering makes me think of privateering | 21:41 |
| kanzure | transhuman engineering ? | 21:41 |
| fenn | meh | 21:41 |
| fenn | 'meddling' | 21:41 |
| fenn | you could use both if you want. transhuman engineering and social transhumanism | 21:43 |
| kanzure | what? social transhumanism is already in use, or already suggested in the doc at least | 21:43 |
| kanzure | I call it type-1 and type-2 later in the doc :) | 21:43 |
| fenn | i mean for extra redundancy (since you seem to think 'transhiumanism' is ambiguous') | 21:44 |
| kanzure | but it is ambiguous -- there's apparently a weird political movement behind it | 21:45 |
| kanzure | of people who are angry about money and other nonsense | 21:45 |
| fenn | well, sure, because it's unfair that rich people should live and poor people die | 21:46 |
| kanzure | right, but that's where self-replication comes in | 21:46 |
| kanzure | as well as other projects | 21:46 |
| kanzure | such as the human variome project to collect all genetic variation | 21:46 |
| kanzure | or the DNA sequencing organizations | 21:46 |
| kanzure | (they need to get a move on, fast) | 21:47 |
| fenn | how does dna sequencing help with social inequality? | 21:47 |
| kanzure | it doesn't, but we can sure as hell try to save them | 21:48 |
| fenn | the whole genetic divide argument is specious at best | 21:55 |
| fenn | we already have 'human enhancement techologies' of every sort | 21:56 |
| fenn | cars, computers, fresh vegetables | 21:56 |
| kanzure | yep | 21:56 |
| kanzure | (added) | 21:57 |
| fenn | heh 'ableist' what a funny concept. i had to read the word several times | 22:04 |
| fenn | "they wouldn't be alive if medical technology and our industrialization would keep them there" and neither would 98% of the world's population | 22:10 |
| kanzure | refresh I updated that part | 22:10 |
| kanzure | that exact line | 22:10 |
| kanzure | "the fact is that they *are* alive, no matter how it happens to be so" | 22:11 |
| fenn | its a rather meaningless division is what i'm trying to say "them" vs "us" | 22:11 |
| fenn | the fact is that _we_ are alive no matter how it happens to be so | 22:12 |
| fenn | are you good at hunting? how well does your immune system do when you're starving? | 22:13 |
| kanzure | aha, a difference in emphasis | 22:13 |
| kanzure | added | 22:13 |
| kanzure | s/phylogenetic/phenotypic/ | 22:14 |
| fenn | just read the diamond age, it's interesting that stephenson thinks humans will reorganize mostly along racial lines onces the national and economic boundaries fall apart | 22:22 |
| kanzure | sounds like bullshit to me | 22:22 |
| kanzure | although niches will always develop | 22:22 |
| kanzure | and specialists to fit the niches | 22:22 |
| kanzure | by 'bullshit' I mean it sounds like he might be somewhat racist | 22:23 |
| fenn | well, it might just be a plot element | 22:23 |
| fenn | have you read the book? | 22:24 |
| kanzure | nope | 22:25 |
| kanzure | I hear of it all the time, of course | 22:25 |
| kanzure | haha | 22:55 |
| kanzure | there is a concerned mother in #wrongplanet | 22:55 |
| kanzure | she has an autistic child | 22:55 |
| kanzure | and says that she wants to check out #wrongplanet to see what it's like | 22:55 |
| kanzure | because "my son feels so lonely" | 22:55 |
| kanzure | I need to find somebody in materials science. | 23:47 |
| kanzure | fenn: this guy looks interesting | 23:50 |
| kanzure | http://ferrocene.livejournal.com/profile | 23:50 |
| kanzure | apparently I already had him on my buddy list | 23:51 |
| kanzure | I hate it when my searches take me in circles | 23:54 |
| kanzure | http://magicalypse.livejournal.com/profile | 23:54 |
| kanzure | Michael Anissimov. Again. | 23:54 |
| kanzure | Mike is a sharp guy. Started the Immortality Institute ( http://imminst.org/ ) while in high school, has a good nootropic following. | 23:55 |
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