| --- Day changed Mon Oct 20 2008 | ||
| pppk | wish somebody would release a cam of some presentations | 00:02 |
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| fenn | am i braindead or what? what's wrong with this code? | 00:11 |
| fenn | def Action(): | 00:12 |
| fenn | def __init__(self, start, end, category): | 00:12 |
| fenn | self.start, self.end, self.category, self.string, self.comment = \ | 00:12 |
| fenn | start, end, category, string, comment | 00:12 |
| fenn | foo = Action(1,2,3) | 00:12 |
| kanzure | string = reserved? | 00:12 |
| fenn | TypeError: Action() takes no arguments (3 given) | 00:12 |
| kanzure | try no () on the def Action | 00:13 |
| fenn | i have something almost exactly the same a couple lines up and it works | 00:13 |
| kanzure | Show. | 00:13 |
| fenn | def Action: gives syntax error? | 00:14 |
| fenn | hmm lemme just pastebin it | 00:14 |
| kanzure | blargh, let me play | 00:14 |
| fenn | http://pastebin.ca/1231408 :) | 00:15 |
| kanzure | foo = Action(1,2,3) <-- invalid syntax? | 00:16 |
| fenn | def Action: | 00:16 |
| fenn | ^ | 00:16 |
| fenn | oh crap, i'm using def instead of class | 00:17 |
| fenn | you may now return to your regularly scheduled surfing | 00:17 |
| kanzure | The Simpsons, as it turns out. | 00:17 |
| kanzure | How long until I should be getting pissed at Kaznessis? | 01:08 |
| fenn | what pissed about? | 01:23 |
| kanzure | synbioss source not available | 01:28 |
| fenn | huh? | 01:28 |
| kanzure | only the desktop simulator, not the web stuff. | 01:28 |
| fenn | i guess it depends on what their response is | 01:30 |
| fenn | if (response = "but nobody else complained"): attitude = pissy | 01:30 |
| kanzure | fenn: whatchya doing? | 02:04 |
| kanzure | *were you | 02:05 |
| fenn | parsing my diary/logs into a sort of gantt chart | 02:06 |
| fenn | also i'm trying to figure out how predictable my sleep patterns are (so i can predict them) | 02:06 |
| kanzure | I thought you said you had something like an hour offset going on | 02:07 |
| kanzure | I mean, an hour offset cycling around | 02:07 |
| fenn | yeah but i dont know how precise that is over months timespan | 02:07 |
| fenn | i guess i have to do some kind of "best fit" | 02:09 |
| fenn | also looking for correlations such as i.e. chocolate intake | 02:11 |
| fenn | should end up with something like this http://www.supermemo.com/articles/sleepchart.htm | 02:14 |
| kanzure | nice charts. | 02:16 |
| kanzure | hrm, NetCDF | 02:18 |
| fenn | i wish python had something like Data::Dumper (i'm sure it does but i just dont know about it) | 02:26 |
| kanzure | huh http://neptune.cems.umn.edu/designer/tmp/ | 02:33 |
| kanzure | not so temporary, eh? | 02:34 |
| fenn | is that the source you're looking for? | 02:34 |
| kanzure | yay laptop fan problems | 02:42 |
| fenn | yaml dump works ok as Data::Dumper substitute | 03:05 |
| kanzure | wtf? http://www.burdastyle.com/ "open source sewing" and no, they're not talking about machines or textiles | 03:22 |
| kanzure | *textile industries | 03:22 |
| fenn | used to be you had to mail order patterns or buy from a store | 03:25 |
| fenn | it was like a kit | 03:25 |
| fenn | well, fsov "used to" | 03:25 |
| fenn | fsvo* | 03:25 |
| fenn | bah' | 03:25 |
| fenn | don't discount CAD designs just because they're for clothing | 03:27 |
| fenn | the problem likely is that they are 50% machine-unreadable | 03:27 |
| kanzure | what are these patterns. | 03:28 |
| kanzure | just apply an algorithm for instructions on where to stich, right? | 03:28 |
| fenn | there was some (mit media lab?) CNC stuffed animal creator suite; saw it on one of jef han's multitouch demos | 03:28 |
| fenn | also folding, cutting, material specs | 03:29 |
| fenn | i dont get "open source" and "gimme money" in the same paragraph | 03:29 |
| kanzure | at the maker faire there was this one poor woman all alone sitting behind a booth with a sign saying "open source sewing" | 03:30 |
| kanzure | not sitting, standing | 03:30 |
| kanzure | it made me double take that | 03:30 |
| kanzure | "join ye band wagon!" | 03:30 |
| fenn | i cant figure out how to actually download the pdf's though | 03:31 |
| fenn | oh fuck this | 03:32 |
| fenn | sometimes i wish OSI would just rabidly sue everyone misusing "open source" | 03:32 |
| bkero | They have a section for that | 03:33 |
| bkero | It's called the EFF :) | 03:33 |
| bkero | what the fuck | 03:34 |
| bkero | http://wine.woot.com | 03:34 |
| bkero | Hahaha | 03:34 |
| bkero | By Woot Cellars | 03:34 |
| kanzure | http://www.swarthmore.edu/NatSci/echeeve1/Ref/Analogs/ElectricalMechanicalAnalogs.html | 03:49 |
| bkero | Did you guys see the RNA-based logic gates got slashdotted? | 03:51 |
| fenn | look at all those hieroglyphic | 03:51 |
| kanzure | gene just came ranting to me about 'mechanical circuits' | 03:51 |
| kanzure | I had to roll my eyes since this is what we've been talking about forever | 03:51 |
| kanzure | anyway, yes, bkero, I saw something like that a few months ago | 03:52 |
| kanzure | I wonder if I can predct it's Winfree's goons | 03:52 |
| kanzure | yep, Cal Tech | 03:52 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/bioreactor/Recovery_of_microalgal_biomass_and_metabolites_-_process_options_and_economics.pdf has pretty charts and numbers | 04:48 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/school/buildingbrains/Group%20assignment.pdf | 05:21 |
| kanzure | so I challenged the professor to actually make the students do some programming | 05:21 |
| kanzure | so now there's a pseudocoding assignment :) | 05:21 |
| kanzure | but they're all bio majors and so their code will likely fail with magical goodness. | 05:22 |
| fenn | nerve cell looks like a spaceship | 05:35 |
| fenn | pew pew (lasers) | 05:35 |
| kanzure | behold the realism! | 05:44 |
| kanzure | dendritic trees! bah! devilworsip! | 05:45 |
| kanzure | *worship | 05:45 |
| kanzure | nathan will be logging in tomorrow at noon | 05:46 |
| kanzure | apparently he wants to start a business with me as the technical guy .. which is fine .. but what he wants to do is automate businesses .. which is doable, except for the social barrier aspects in the companies .. so I want to see what's up with him a bit | 05:46 |
| kanzure | "Once people automate, they'll start to realize that their businesses aren't really doing much of anything anyway." | 05:47 |
| kanzure | uhm | 05:48 |
| kanzure | I mean their workers. | 05:48 |
| fenn | er, but, um, you dont actually know anything :( | 05:50 |
| kanzure | hm? | 05:50 |
| fenn | as far as robots and such | 05:50 |
| kanzure | while mostly true, he's talking software for some reason. | 05:51 |
| fenn | automating software? | 05:51 |
| kanzure | heh' | 05:51 |
| * fenn ponders the meaning of this | 05:51 | |
| kanzure | yeah .. so that's why I want to investigate nathan a bit more | 05:51 |
| kanzure | he wants to be a firm to go in and replace people-jobs with software | 05:51 |
| kanzure | which IMHO would already be done if it wasn't for those damned people getting in the way | 05:52 |
| fenn | maybe | 05:52 |
| kanzure | you know, typical corporate culture. | 05:52 |
| fenn | most jobs are 100% unnecessary in the first place | 05:52 |
| bkero | I hate corporate culture. | 05:52 |
| kanzure | "oh, well, that's dealt with by the HR department" | 05:52 |
| kanzure | "ok, fine, I'll go do the HR dept.'s systems." | 05:52 |
| kanzure | "nope, no way you'll touch that" | 05:52 |
| kanzure | "wtf mates." | 05:52 |
| fenn | HR is sacred? | 05:53 |
| kanzure | not by my standards? | 05:53 |
| fenn | by someone's standards? | 05:53 |
| kanzure | as for robots .. | 05:54 |
| kanzure | What do I apparently not know? | 05:54 |
| kanzure | besides my obvious lack of ever having programmed an industrial robot. | 05:54 |
| fenn | that, pretty much | 05:54 |
| kanzure | I'm presuming that it's a choriograph sequence of servo positionings and maybe feedback sensors | 05:54 |
| kanzure | I also know they cost a shitload and thus come with documentation | 05:54 |
| fenn | yes but most jobs that can be automated that way already are | 05:54 |
| kanzure | ok, no argument there | 05:55 |
| kanzure | stocking of shelves in a grocery store for instance. :-p | 05:55 |
| fenn | the hard parts are computer vision and "what to do when things fuck up" | 05:55 |
| kanzure | I don't know why I just said that. | 05:55 |
| kanzure | right | 05:55 |
| kanzure | or when people fuck up, more specifically | 05:55 |
| kanzure | The big problem seems to be getting people to put things in the right place | 05:55 |
| fenn | and the more set-up goes into a job, the more likely to fuckup | 05:55 |
| kanzure | There's no way to get FedEx to have a specific robot to place the package in a specific place, and so on | 05:56 |
| kanzure | although I'm guessing somebody's been able to do it with cargo containers (maybe) | 05:56 |
| kanzure | especially since the semi-trucks *must* back up into loading docks/bays at the back of warehouses | 05:56 |
| fenn | fedex doesnt use robots | 05:56 |
| kanzure | did I say they did | 05:56 |
| kanzure | I've seen them. They're very much human. | 05:57 |
| kanzure | I said "no way to get FedEx to have a specific robot" (okay: or any robot) | 05:57 |
| kanzure | I guess the 'specific' is poorly placed | 05:57 |
| fenn | also you gotta consider the amount of time and expertise it takes to program a robot vs to have an unskilled human just do it | 05:58 |
| fenn | most of this would be solved by having more standards and centralization | 05:58 |
| kanzure | consider how hard it is for users to program the choriographing robots these days (biooid).. set them into position, record the sequence, and 'go'. | 05:58 |
| kanzure | yeah | 05:58 |
| fenn | (lol me arguing for centralization) | 05:59 |
| kanzure | meep, that's just networking | 05:59 |
| fenn | IMO the problem with industrial robots is they are blind, deaf, dumb, and thus must be built with extreme accuracy and performance in order to assure they meet their choreographed trajectory | 06:00 |
| kanzure | You aren't going to try to push 'computer vision' on me, are you? | 06:00 |
| kanzure | there are alternatives to 'computer vision' and 'make the robotic arm have a visual cortex' .. | 06:00 |
| fenn | consider what types of jobs are filled by blind people | 06:01 |
| * fenn has no idea, actually | 06:01 | |
| kanzure | bleh, this brings back memories. | 06:01 |
| kanzure | She was so screwed. She wanted to go be a teacher and do singing. | 06:01 |
| fenn | what happened? | 06:02 |
| kanzure | Born blind. | 06:03 |
| fenn | um, so, did she become a teacher and do singing? | 06:03 |
| kanzure | Don't know. She didn't think she had much of an option. | 06:04 |
| fenn | example of how not being deaf can help reduce cost of machinery: http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1678-58782004000100013 | 06:05 |
| fenn | you can detect chatter and nudge your way into one of these stability regions | 06:06 |
| kanzure | given some allowable amount of variation in the position of the material? | 06:06 |
| kanzure | s/variation/offset/ | 06:06 |
| fenn | deflection isn't so important on roughing passes | 06:07 |
| fenn | especially if you have some smarts (position feedback) that lets you know how much you deflected, and some more smarts to compensate for that the next pass | 06:07 |
| fenn | so, more of a procedural approach than analytically figuring it all out ahead of time | 06:08 |
| fenn | i have this idea for a completely automated grocery store | 06:09 |
| fenn | basically everything is in bins, and the desired amount gets dispensed into continuous zipper-seal bags, taht get heat sealed and cut to length | 06:09 |
| xp_prg2 | kanzure you here? | 06:10 |
| fenn | xp_prg2: dude, what's your problem | 06:10 |
| xp_prg2 | http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/BioBench | 06:10 |
| xp_prg2 | this is not coming up! :( | 06:11 |
| kanzure | mediawiki is down for some reason | 06:11 |
| kanzure | I don't know where I put it on the server | 06:11 |
| kanzure | Any guesses? | 06:11 |
| fenn | /var/www | 06:11 |
| xp_prg2 | well I have some awsome people who want to help with the project! | 06:11 |
| kanzure | fenn: fuck, I actually didn't grab /var/www/. | 06:11 |
| xp_prg2 | can we get it back up please? | 06:11 |
| kanzure | yes .. give me a few moments .. | 06:11 |
| kanzure | to actually find it and the database. oops :) | 06:11 |
| fenn | i dont know where mysql squirrels away its data | 06:11 |
| kanzure | fenn: plastic baggy automated grocery store? Hrm. I do know of some automated grocery ordering stores in New York, but I know they're also ran by little green men in freaky suits. | 06:12 |
| kanzure | fenn: meh, just locate the tables. | 06:12 |
| fenn | ah, yes, see the point is that you can order from an internet site and have it delivered, or you can just go to the store and get it immediately, works the same either way | 06:12 |
| fenn | but you get to inspect demo products at the store if desired | 06:13 |
| kanzure | I wonder if the baggy method works all the time. | 06:13 |
| fenn | no | 06:13 |
| kanzure | doesn't it leak somewhat? | 06:13 |
| kanzure | what's everything coming in? plastic or cardboard, right? | 06:13 |
| fenn | hm? order from the manufacturer usually plastic bag in a cardboard box | 06:13 |
| xp_prg2 | what is that opensource biology project etc... we are adding this front end to again? | 06:14 |
| fenn | synbioss | 06:14 |
| fenn | at my local grocery store they have this automated checkout line, where you have to swipe every product one at a time across the laser scanner and put it on a scale | 06:16 |
| kanzure | fenn: /var/lib/mysql/ evidently. | 06:16 |
| kanzure | right, I've seen those too | 06:16 |
| fenn | but couldnt i just scan them as i put it in a cart? | 06:16 |
| fenn | i mean laser scanners dont need to have spinning mirrors and sapphire windows etc | 06:16 |
| kanzure | barcode scanners? | 06:17 |
| fenn | handheld (cart-affixed) barcode scanner | 06:17 |
| kanzure | aren't those scanner guns portable anyway? | 06:17 |
| fenn | cart has scale and small computer w/ copy of the database or RF link to store computer | 06:17 |
| kanzure | so why stop at the cart? | 06:17 |
| fenn | what do you mean why stop at the cart? | 06:17 |
| kanzure | nevermind | 06:17 |
| kanzure | I was figuring of a hoister on the cart for the scannergun :) | 06:18 |
| kanzure | but you might as well have it on the edges | 06:18 |
| fenn | you're holding the product as you put it in the cart, as you put it in, the scanner sees it and beeps | 06:18 |
| fenn | or beeps if you put something in and it doesnt see it, might be better | 06:18 |
| kanzure | I wonder what frequency the classic checkout beep is. | 06:18 |
| fenn | g00gle knows | 06:19 |
| kanzure | xp_prg2: Okay, server going down for a few moments. | 06:19 |
| fenn | you could have animal themed shopping carts that make roaring noises | 06:20 |
| fenn | actually the most annoying thing about the automated checkout line is how it tries to talk to you, which is why i didnt use it before they stopped staffing human cashiers at night | 06:21 |
| fenn | it's always hitting on me and making sarcastic comments about my choice of groceries :( | 06:22 |
| fenn | so, cart + scanner + scale = robot, think you know enough to mass produce one of these and install at millions of stores? | 06:25 |
| kanzure | that's a robot? | 06:26 |
| fenn | replaces a cashier doesn't it? | 06:26 |
| kanzure | doesn't the automated checkout thingy? | 06:26 |
| kanzure | I was thinking at least an arm to move around the store and pull things from the shelf | 06:27 |
| fenn | we outsource that function to the customer | 06:27 |
| fenn | it would be nice to have robots stocking the shelves of course | 06:27 |
| fenn | (nice for someone i guess) | 06:28 |
| fenn | the jobs i was applying for seem to have disappeared without a trace, suppose i'll be stocking shelves | 06:28 |
| kanzure | as long as the cargo containers are properly filled. | 06:28 |
| fenn | and if not, we can simply put the robot in manual mode via low latency uplink to india | 06:30 |
| fenn | isn't it grand | 06:30 |
| fenn | you know, aum shinrikyo was trying to hasten the end of the world | 06:31 |
| kanzure | 'only in death is transcendence experienced' and such ? | 06:32 |
| kanzure | to drive the knife through the eye, etc. | 06:32 |
| kanzure | ' To be fully alive is to be fully aware. To be fully aware is to be full of fear. To fear is to die.' | 06:33 |
| kanzure | Anyway. | 06:33 |
| kanzure | Hrm. Mediawiki still isn't working. | 06:34 |
| kanzure | It wasn't in the old apache2 000-default config file with Alias directives or anything. | 06:34 |
| kanzure | Hrm. I am very confused. | 06:46 |
| fenn | wow this is really amazing, like something out of a bad cyberpunk anime: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum_Shinrikyo | 06:46 |
| kanzure | so it's not in .htaccess, it's not in the 000-default config files, where is it? | 06:53 |
| bkero | So much bad aniime. So much bad cyberpunk. | 06:53 |
| kanzure | How did my apache2 installation know about /mediawiki/? It's not in the public_html dir that it was stored in, it's not in /var/www/, and it's over in /var/lib/mediawiki1.7/, but how did apache know this? | 06:54 |
| bkero | a module | 06:54 |
| bkero | assigning "/mediawiki/" to a documentroot | 06:54 |
| kanzure | A module? | 06:54 |
| bkero | Er, <location "/mediawiki"> DocumentRoot "/var/lib/mediawiki1.7"</location> | 06:55 |
| bkero | cd /etc/apache2 && grep -R "mediawiki" * | 06:55 |
| kanzure | that'd be the 000-default. | 06:55 |
| kanzure | ah, there's also /etc/apache2/conf.d/mediawiki1.7.conf | 06:55 |
| fenn | 000-default is probably in site configs, right? so you have to enable that site maybe? | 06:56 |
| kanzure | Well. Damn. | 06:56 |
| fenn | in httpd.conf | 06:56 |
| kanzure | Okay. So it turns out bkero is right, the contents of that file are the same type that belong in 000-default | 06:56 |
| kanzure | hah. Okay. linking error. This is getting retarded. | 07:03 |
| kanzure | I'll solve this tomorrow.. | 07:04 |
| kanzure | What was the free AJAX document editing system? | 11:53 |
| kanzure | bkero: ? | 11:53 |
| UtopiahGHML | http://seedea.free.fr/share/transhumanblueprint-sourceandraison-selfimprovementcycle.jpg | 11:56 |
| kanzure | I don't see what's new about this. | 11:57 |
| UtopiahGHML | written on the back of a brown envelope | 11:58 |
| kanzure | UtopiahGHML: http://heybryan.org/recursion.html | 11:58 |
| UtopiahGHML | paroles paroles paroles | 11:59 |
| kanzure | Que? | 12:00 |
| UtopiahGHML | schemas > words | 12:00 |
| kanzure | Fuck that. Text > an image with hard-to-OCR-text. | 12:00 |
| kanzure | I'm gong to go cry now. | 12:01 |
| UtopiahGHML | (pwnd) | 12:01 |
| UtopiahGHML | my point wasn't to say it was new or even good | 12:02 |
| UtopiahGHML | I came accross it while re-organizing paper and thought it was appropriate to share this in such a channel | 12:02 |
| UtopiahGHML | plus honestly, I and money others never dig direclty into large chunks of text without any introduction and visual schema | 12:03 |
| UtopiahGHML | visual language is a key tool, your eyes can make links much faster | 12:03 |
| UtopiahGHML | (cf military researchs on UI) | 12:03 |
| -!- n is now known as nsh- | 12:11 | |
| wrldpc | ........... | 12:27 |
| -!- nsh- is now known as nsh | 12:28 | |
| wrldpc | Visuals are good in that they are legible. | 12:28 |
| wrldpc | If you can read your own handwriting you should be good .. | 12:28 |
| UtopiahGHML | not being able to read one owns handwritting is kind of pointless :P | 12:29 |
| * wrldpc thinks of how to establish his own recursive positive feedback loop. | 12:30 | |
| kanzure | ' Visiting professor talks about "DNA Knotting in Viral Capsids" Description: De Witt Sumners, the Robert O. Lawton Distinguished Professor of Mathematics at Florida State University, presents a talk entitled "DNA Knotting in Viral Capsids." The talk is sponsored by the Topological and Cellular Biology Group and the Department of Mathematics. ' | 12:30 |
| wrldpc | xool | 12:30 |
| kanzure | wrldpc: Have you considered getting a woman and cloning yourself a few times with modified DNA? ;-) | 12:30 |
| wrldpc | I like that idea! | 12:30 |
| kanzure | 'Visionary of semiconductor industry gives talk Description: The Robert S. Strauss Center presents "Science 2.0: Globalized Innovation in Electronics" with Dan Hutcheson, CEO of VLSI Research, Inc. Hutcheson is a recognized authority and well-known visionary for the semiconductor industry. He advises companies in strategic and tactical marketing, business management and manufacturing trends, productivity and strategy. Time: 5:30-7:30 p.m. Locatio | 12:31 |
| wrldpc | There's a "Bio by Design" seminar at BU this week ... I wonder if Venter will be there. | 12:32 |
| wrldpc | Prolly not. | 12:32 |
| * kanzure goes. | 12:32 | |
| wrldpc | Is this visionary also an engineer? | 12:33 |
| wrldpc | He's a f'n economist ffs. | 12:34 |
| wrldpc | More scientists less sinecures. | 12:35 |
| wrldpc | The DNA Knotting in Viral Capsids sounds rad tho. | 12:36 |
| kanzure_1_ | Can somebody tell xp_prg to just reverse engineer interface{1,2,3}.php from the server? | 15:57 |
| nsh | context? | 15:59 |
| kanzure_1_ | nsh: http://synbioss.sf.net/ click on web thingy (not desktop thingy) | 16:51 |
| nsh | m | 17:11 |
| UtopiahGHML | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CXDQaXk54w | 17:11 |
| * nsh frowns | 17:13 | |
| xp_prg | Kanzure is the mediawiki up yet? | 17:14 |
| kanzure_1_ | xp_prg: No. Sorry. Hey, I have something else for you to do though. | 17:22 |
| kanzure_1_ | I have the AJAX interface working, so now I just need something reverse engineered | 17:22 |
| xp_prg | wow you do! | 17:22 |
| xp_prg | can I see it? | 17:22 |
| xp_prg | ok what kanzure? | 17:22 |
| kanzure_1_ | http://synbioss.sf.net/ See the 'web system' that it links to? It links over to interface1.php, and interface2.php and so on. I need interface1.php, interface2.php and interface3.php reverse engineered. | 17:22 |
| kanzure_1_ | The graph system is over at http://heybryan.org/graph/ | 17:23 |
| kanzure_1_ | I had to go get Tels from bloodgate to send me over the perl/CGI script that he's using to generate the graphs, so now it's working. | 17:23 |
| xp_prg | I am on the synbioss site don't see the "web system" link | 17:24 |
| xp_prg | where is this? | 17:24 |
| kanzure_1_ | http://neptune.cems.umn.edu/designer/interface1.php | 17:25 |
| xp_prg | what is an example bio brick id I can use? | 17:25 |
| kanzure_1_ | Look at the tutorial link. | 17:29 |
| kanzure_1_ | They walk you through the whole thing. | 17:29 |
| xp_prg | well I thought this was going to be graphical drag and drop, where is that functionality? | 17:30 |
| xp_prg | kanzure? | 17:35 |
| UtopiahGHML | ybit: have you tried >1x video watching with P2P streaming? | 17:36 |
| ybit | not yet : : UtopiahGHML | 17:37 |
| kanzure_1_ | xp_prg: The drag and drop is already in the graph system. | 17:37 |
| ybit | typing w/ mouse isn't fun | 17:38 |
| xp_prg | I can't seem to bring up the graph system functionality | 17:38 |
| UtopiahGHML | SwarmPlayer seems to be based on VLC though, not mplayer, but I guess it shouldn't be a big problem | 17:38 |
| xp_prg | it says javascript not working right or something | 17:38 |
| kanzure_1_ | xp_prg: Okay, then look at it here: http://bloodgate.com/graph-easy/ http://bloodgate.com/graph-demo/ | 17:38 |
| ybit | almost have the server fixed, yay | 17:38 |
| kanzure_1_ | Try not index2.html | 17:38 |
| kanzure_1_ | but instead the one within the subdir within there | 17:38 |
| kanzure_1_ | http://heybryan.org/graph/bloodgate.com/graph-easy/ | 17:39 |
| xp_prg | what ajax framework you using? | 17:39 |
| kanzure_1_ | prototypejs | 17:40 |
| xp_prg | oh ok | 17:40 |
| kanzure_1_ | Hahah. Boy do I feel stupid. I was wondering why my MySQL query was only giving one output. | 17:40 |
| kanzure_1_ | For the last 20 minutes I've been debugging the query. | 17:40 |
| kanzure_1_ | Geeze. Maybe it's the "LIMIT 1" at the end of the query. | 17:40 |
| * kanzure_1_ goes to the chemistry class | 17:41 | |
| UtopiahGHML | http://www.p2p-next.org | 17:42 |
| kanzure_1_ | ai-philosophy@yahoogroups.com <-- Has Marvin Minsky. | 19:08 |
| UtopiahGHML | he's gay | 19:18 |
| StormtrooperTK79 | woohoo im here | 19:45 |
| StormtrooperTK79 | i can fly | 19:45 |
| UtopiahGHML | heroin? | 19:45 |
| StormtrooperTK79 | Jetpacks | 19:46 |
| UtopiahGHML | more expensive | 19:46 |
| StormtrooperTK79 | indeed | 19:46 |
| UtopiahGHML | maybe more dangerous too ;P | 19:46 |
| StormtrooperTK79 | no worries, im fully armoured | 19:46 |
| StormtrooperTK79 | We gotta hold on to what we got | 20:10 |
| StormtrooperTK79 | It doesnt make a difference if we make it or not | 20:10 |
| StormtrooperTK79 | We got each other and thats alot | 20:10 |
| * UtopiahGHML cries | 20:22 | |
| UtopiahGHML | so beautiful | 20:22 |
| bkero | I want a jetpack. | 20:30 |
| nsh | [######## ] | 20:39 |
| nsh | signal noise | 20:39 |
| StormtrooperTK79 | we all need jetpacks | 20:42 |
| StormtrooperTK79 | once we fly everything will change | 20:43 |
| StormtrooperTK79 | seeing the big picture from above | 20:43 |
| StormtrooperTK79 | changes the mind and its ways | 20:44 |
| UtopiahGHML | anybody played with cloud providers | 20:44 |
| UtopiahGHML | and eventually automatic price balancing | 20:44 |
| UtopiahGHML | and eventually CDN or.. metaCDN? | 20:44 |
| StormtrooperTK79 | price balancing ? Thats what free markets are for | 20:45 |
| UtopiahGHML | yep but I want my software to do it automatically for me | 20:48 |
| UtopiahGHML | and execute itself on the lowest priced cloud | 20:48 |
| StormtrooperTK79 | what kind of clouds do you mean ? | 20:54 |
| UtopiahGHML | remote hosting on a distributed architecture | 20:56 |
| wrldpc | what was the DIY fashion design site again? | 20:56 |
| StormtrooperTK79 | ah | 20:56 |
| wrldpc | what we need is a live HD video feed of Earth constantly streaming over the internet and a TV station | 20:57 |
| wrldpc | using the same or similar optics on Nihon's Kayuga | 20:57 |
| wrldpc | only in geostationary LEO | 20:57 |
| StormtrooperTK79 | might cost around 50 million so if we get 5 million people to donate 10 $ we could get that satelite up | 20:58 |
| wrldpc | if it's even possible to affect geostationary LEOs | 20:58 |
| StormtrooperTK79 | there should be a wesbiste where scientists can display projects and requir public donations, the website would be like the central place to cheakc them out and post donations | 20:59 |
| StormtrooperTK79 | that way things would be created that dont find sponsering else where -by the poeple | 20:59 |
| UtopiahGHML | J. Broberg, S. Venugopal, and R. Buyya. Market-oriented Grids and Utility Computing: The state-of-the-art and future directions. | 21:01 |
| UtopiahGHML | Journal of Grid Computing, 2008. To appear. | 21:01 |
| UtopiahGHML | :D | 21:01 |
| UtopiahGHML | Biohacking, ? l.?cole des apprentis sorciers | 22:07 |
| UtopiahGHML | http://www.internetactu.net/2008/10/15/biohacking-a-lecole-des-apprentis-sorciers/ | 22:07 |
| -!- splicer_ is now known as splicer | 22:51 | |
| kanzure | Somebody tell stormtrooper about my paypal science project donation system | 23:20 |
| kanzure | xp_prg: Have you been at all working on that interface1.php stuff? | 23:28 |
| kanzure | The professor that runs the lab that produced the interface{1,2,3}.php scripts hasn't replied to my email. I suppose I should just phone them on the spot. | 23:28 |
| kanzure | Although calling labs hasn't worked out for me so far. | 23:28 |
| nsh | kanzure, what channels are you on in freenode? | 23:33 |
| UtopiahGHML | /whois kanzure | 23:34 |
| nsh | doesn't work on freenode | 23:34 |
| nsh | the twats made +i hide channels | 23:34 |
| nsh | unless you're both on them | 23:34 |
| nsh | i bitched already, but they're ignorant motherfuckers | 23:34 |
| kanzure | #open-rtms, #reprap, #openmosix, #hplusroadmap, #wrongplanet, #namcub, #bioinformatics, #debian, #perl, ##electronics, #space, ##chemistry, ##neuroscience, #biology, #diybio, ##sl4, and sometimes ##math, #not-math, ##physics, #not-physics. | 23:34 |
| * nsh nods | 23:34 | |
| nsh | ty | 23:34 |
| UtopiahGHML | #wrongplanet? | 23:35 |
| nsh | autistic spectrum channel | 23:35 |
| kanzure | I absorb aspies. | 23:35 |
| UtopiahGHML | ? | 23:35 |
| kanzure | ? | 23:37 |
| UtopiahGHML | well I don't know what it means | 23:37 |
| UtopiahGHML | Im reading http://www.udel.edu/bkirby/asperger/ | 23:37 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/intense_world_syndrome.html | 23:39 |
| xp_prg | kanzure I am at work, I can't work on it until tonight man :( | 23:39 |
| UtopiahGHML | kanzure: thx for the link, how does it translate into on a daily basis | 23:42 |
| kanzure | To what detail do you want? | 23:43 |
| UtopiahGHML | 3 lines | 23:44 |
| kanzure | The condition would prevent such summarization. ;-) | 23:45 |
| UtopiahGHML | pffff | 23:45 |
| kanzure | Not for the reasons you think. | 23:46 |
| UtopiahGHML | well right now Im lacking the basic building block to think about this hence my question | 23:46 |
| kanzure | http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9072119&pageNumber=2 | 23:48 |
| UtopiahGHML | damn... if I would down the street and think people are optimisation functions do I have asperger syndrom? | 23:51 |
| UtopiahGHML | s/would/walk/ | 23:51 |
| kanzure | Heh. | 23:51 |
| kanzure | You'd certainly be in good company. | 23:52 |
| UtopiahGHML | damn... I knew I was different... | 23:53 |
| UtopiahGHML | my friend say Im just white & nerdy (cf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xEzGIuY7kw too) | 23:56 |
| kanzure | Is that the 'white and nerdy' song? | 23:56 |
| UtopiahGHML | maybe :P | 23:56 |
| UtopiahGHML | wait... do you remember all YouTube URL by heart?!! | 23:56 |
| kanzure | There was a point in my life when I did memorize all URLs. | 23:57 |
| fenn | *cough* bullshit *cough* | 23:57 |
| kanzure | fenn: This was back when the 'internet' to me was something like 10 websites. | 23:58 |
| fenn | it's ok, i used to think AppleTalk was the internet :) | 23:59 |
| bkero | What | 23:59 |
| fenn | there were so many cool games and filez! | 23:59 |
| bkero | dalnet #romz represent | 23:59 |
| UtopiahGHML | talking about white&nerdy isn't TheBigBangTheory episode out yet? | 23:59 |
| bkero | Of what? | 23:59 |
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