| --- Day changed Wed Oct 29 2008 | ||
| xp_prg | ppk what up man? | 00:13 |
|---|---|---|
| kanzure_ | Argh. | 00:20 |
| kanzure_ | Microsoft's latest commercials of "I'm a PC" consists of people sending in their webcam vids | 00:20 |
| kanzure_ | at the end of the commercial, it's | 00:20 |
| kanzure_ | "UPLOAD YOURSELF @ MICROSOFT.COM" | 00:20 |
| kanzure_ | t54r | 00:21 |
| kanzure_ | oops .. threw keyboard. | 00:21 |
| bkero | lol jon hodgman | 00:33 |
| bkero | is a dick | 00:33 |
| kanzure_ | ? | 00:33 |
| kanzure_ | Context? | 00:33 |
| bkero | You said "I'm a PC" | 00:34 |
| kanzure_ | I don't get it. | 00:34 |
| bkero | I watched his TED talk, and his Daily Show interview. | 00:34 |
| bkero | He acted like a dick on both occasions. | 00:34 |
| kanzure_ | How does that make him a PC? | 00:39 |
| bkero | He plays the role of a PC in the Apple ad campaign. | 00:40 |
| kanzure_ | The PC has a TED talk? How ironic. | 00:41 |
| kanzure_ | Haha. News flash. Showing the stories "at 11". "Tired of people stealing your presidential ads? See how one woman solved it ... <pic of her yard spraypainted with the Obama symbol> .. I figure they can't steal my grass". ON THE CONTRARY. :) | 00:42 |
| * kanzure_ pictures goons stealing sections of grass. | 00:43 | |
| bkero | Sneaky goons | 00:48 |
| xp_prg | ppk where are you man?! | 01:39 |
| gene_ | you there Kanzure? | 03:41 |
| gene__ | you there kanzure? | 04:09 |
| gene__ | can I have the powerpoint that is improved so I can add to it | 04:09 |
| gene__ | kanzure, I found a new seperation technique | 04:45 |
| wrldpc | Does anyone read http://everything2.com/ ? | 04:56 |
| gene__ | Kanzure | 05:11 |
| gene__ | you there? | 05:11 |
| fenn | lol winblows http://www.intelliadmin.com/blog/2008/10/smb-vulnerablity-found-emergency-patch.html | 07:26 |
| UtopiahGHML | anybody made something out of biobricks so far? | 08:36 |
| UtopiahGHML | sth physical I mean | 08:37 |
| UtopiahGHML | kanzure_: http://seedea.free.fr/wiki/index.php?n=Oimp.CAST since you said "so, as to what you're looking for, that's, optimally, what I should have been doing for the past three or four years" | 09:14 |
| fenn | should rename it "clippy" | 09:22 |
| UtopiahGHML | I don't remember you could edit the suggestions from "Clippy" | 09:23 |
| UtopiahGHML | what is your suggestion anyway? | 09:23 |
| fenn | i just think it's a bad idea | 09:23 |
| fenn | i want the computer to get out of my fucking way 99% of the time | 09:24 |
| UtopiahGHML | it's not instrusive, as said in the page you can ignore it | 09:24 |
| fenn | not true, i can't ignore anything | 09:24 |
| UtopiahGHML | and the more you ignore it, the less it proposes anything | 09:25 |
| UtopiahGHML | (see the treshold level based on user response) | 09:25 |
| fenn | i'd rather have a bell i could ring to summon the servant | 09:26 |
| UtopiahGHML | my point : if you want to suggest sth do it, if you want to say sth is bad and you could do this instead Im listening. | 09:27 |
| fenn | i often press the 'tab' key to complete a word, it's automatic/reflexive, doesn't change on me "adaptively" | 09:28 |
| UtopiahGHML | how do you think the dictionnary of word is created if not based on your usage? | 09:28 |
| fenn | it's based on the possible choices | 09:28 |
| UtopiahGHML | well check the algo in Vim or other FOSS that propose completion | 09:29 |
| UtopiahGHML | they are often ordered based on your usage | 09:29 |
| UtopiahGHML | (also FF awesome bar, Vimperator completion, etc) | 09:29 |
| fenn | i havent used vim completion, but i'd be surprised if it changed on you | 09:29 |
| UtopiahGHML | it does "change" on you, it's empty when you start a document | 09:30 |
| UtopiahGHML | if I type blabla uto[C^N] it does nothing | 09:30 |
| UtopiahGHML | if I type blabla utopiah uto[C^N] it completes with utopiah | 09:30 |
| fenn | nope it always picksthe first word in the doc | 09:31 |
| fenn | foo fwee frob f^N gives me a list: foo fwee frob | 09:31 |
| fenn | even if i pick fwee multiple times | 09:31 |
| UtopiahGHML | well the list is still based on your usage | 09:32 |
| UtopiahGHML | have you type chinese pinyin ? | 09:32 |
| UtopiahGHML | or japanese kanji | 09:32 |
| fenn | yes | 09:32 |
| UtopiahGHML | they are ordered based on frequency of usage | 09:32 |
| fenn | i think that depends on what software you are using | 09:32 |
| fenn | bah i can never remember how to enable it | 09:33 |
| UtopiahGHML | your point being? | 09:33 |
| fenn | point being: it's quite possible to ignore good UI design | 09:33 |
| UtopiahGHML | (to go back to having computer assistance on current task) | 09:33 |
| UtopiahGHML | so, what should I do? | 09:35 |
| fenn | make a list of possible actions that doesn't change (this can be ordered by frequency of usage ahead of time, as long as it's not "adaptive") | 09:36 |
| fenn | at least it shouldn't change without explicitly being told to change | 09:36 |
| UtopiahGHML | (oh btw is there a way to have statistics on corrections applied thanks to FF dictionnaries?) | 09:37 |
| fenn | i have no idea | 09:37 |
| UtopiahGHML | Id love to have the list of my top mistakes! | 09:37 |
| fenn | maybe you type "teh" all the time and dont even know it :) | 09:38 |
| UtopiahGHML | well I don't use autocorrect so I guess Id know it | 09:38 |
| UtopiahGHML | personnal -> personal etc... | 09:39 |
| fenn | since google translate began working with japanese text, i've forgotten all my kanji :\ | 09:39 |
| UtopiahGHML | have you tried https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7208 ? | 09:39 |
| UtopiahGHML | Kanji-lish : Firefox add-on that allows you to practice Japanese kanji while you read English (or other languages). | 09:39 |
| fenn | kanjilish? i just looked at that yesterday, sounds interesting | 09:40 |
| fenn | i'd rather do something with squid since i hate FF | 09:40 |
| UtopiahGHML | basically your suggestion is to have a fixed behavior from the software part? | 09:40 |
| fenn | yes | 09:40 |
| fenn | deterministic | 09:40 |
| UtopiahGHML | well if you understand the underlying adapting algorythm it still is deterministic. | 09:41 |
| fenn | behavior should be deterministic, even with random input | 09:41 |
| fenn | do you understand why i'm making a big deal about it? | 09:42 |
| UtopiahGHML | because it's cognitively easier on your part | 09:42 |
| fenn | yes, and my fingers can't look at the screen | 09:42 |
| UtopiahGHML | ?! | 09:42 |
| fenn | so when i'm typing some long complex sequence with multiple predictive shortcuts, i dont have to look and make sure the computer is doing what it did last time | 09:43 |
| UtopiahGHML | well you type while looking at the screen, not the keyboard, I don't get it | 09:46 |
| fenn | but i'm not thinking about what's on the screen, i'm thinking about what i'm trying to do | 09:46 |
| fenn | if i have to look at the screen and figure out what the computer thinks i want, then it interrupts my train of thought | 09:47 |
| UtopiahGHML | what about having the suggestions at the end of the task, queueing them? | 09:48 |
| fenn | that might work, but i dont know how to do it(?) | 09:48 |
| UtopiahGHML | (I added http://seedea.free.fr/wiki/index.php?n=Oimp.CAST#Suggestion , is it correct?) | 09:49 |
| fenn | you should read this if you're interested in UI: http://jef.raskincenter.org/humane_interface/summary_of_thi.html | 09:51 |
| fenn | (yes that's correct) | 09:51 |
| fenn | hmmm threaded IRC conversations.. | 09:51 |
| UtopiahGHML | (reading the summary, thanks) | 09:52 |
| UtopiahGHML | ? | 09:52 |
| fenn | kate (text editor) has a list of files that are open, you switch to them by clicking on the name... the background of the filename changes color depending on how often you visit that file | 09:59 |
| UtopiahGHML | ideally beside trying not to be instrusive, I should have a way to detect when to avoid giving any message to the user, I actually wrote sth about that a while ago but on paper, never typed it | 10:09 |
| UtopiahGHML | at that time my walls were my wiki ;? | 10:09 |
| UtopiahGHML | hard to run a search on that :( | 10:10 |
| UtopiahGHML | I wanted to add higher-res picture and IDs (like barcode) with meta-data but, just too much work obviously. | 10:10 |
| fenn | you just need VR goggles and a digital pen | 10:12 |
| fenn | seems hard on the posture though | 10:13 |
| UtopiahGHML | huhu I need high-res camera + trippod + tech recognition + semantic engine + API for SecondLife and that's it, so easy ;) | 10:16 |
| fenn | i think the "Normal human inertia" comment was about groupthink more than habituation | 10:25 |
| UtopiahGHML | well I still think that in most environment we have strong resistance to change, no? | 10:30 |
| wrldpc | anybody got artilect war or ending aging in pdf? | 10:35 |
| faceface | its not much, but at least its more than nothing. http://biocourse.org/index.php/H%2B | 10:41 |
| -!- Utopiah is now known as UtopiahGHML | 10:55 | |
| UtopiahGHML | sorry switched to mozilla.org instead of opening a new server session | 10:56 |
| UtopiahGHML | (Ill contact the Hunspell resp to see how I could get stats data from this) | 10:56 |
| faceface | how do I find the mime type of a link? | 11:00 |
| faceface | file --mime tells me "application/vnd.rn-realmedia" | 11:00 |
| faceface | but not sure if the webserver is saying that when I grab it | 11:00 |
| UtopiahGHML | supposed to be in the header | 11:03 |
| faceface | how do I see the header? | 11:05 |
| fenn | telnet to port 80 :) | 11:06 |
| UtopiahGHML | if you just want to check it telnet could be a simple option | 11:06 |
| UtopiahGHML | else you just use your favorite language then http query the server and extrat the header | 11:06 |
| faceface | HEAD | 11:09 |
| faceface | application/octet-stream | 11:09 |
| kanzure_ | Huh. Marshall Brain was at singsummit. | 11:45 |
| UtopiahGHML | Solar Cells- Materials, Manufacture and Operation http://knowfree.net/2008/10/29/solar-cells-materials-manufacture-and-operation.kf | 11:47 |
| UtopiahGHML | Content : * organic and dye sensitized cells | 11:52 |
| kanzure_ | UtopiahGHML: Could you email that link to me? | 11:52 |
| UtopiahGHML | mailto:? | 11:52 |
| kanzure_ | kanzure@gmail.com | 11:52 |
| UtopiahGHML | do you have a delicious account? | 11:52 |
| kanzure_ | Yes, but delicious is the devil and should go to hell. | 11:53 |
| UtopiahGHML | (cause I have bindings so it's faster for me) | 11:53 |
| kanzure_ | Bah, bindings. | 11:53 |
| kanzure_ | You're probably just using webscraping tools. | 11:53 |
| UtopiahGHML | in FF I type D and I just have to add for:kanzure [Enter] and it's done | 11:53 |
| kanzure_ | (I can't afford the HTML overhead that would be caused because I use 2.8+ MB of bookmarks.) | 11:53 |
| UtopiahGHML | and fields are filled with selected data before typing D | 11:54 |
| UtopiahGHML | Ill just mailto with url as the subject then | 11:54 |
| kanzure_ | uhm, that's probably a bad idea | 11:54 |
| kanzure_ | my intention in receiving the email is to be able to clicky the link :) | 11:54 |
| kanzure_ | I'm still having shell troubles, you see. | 11:54 |
| UtopiahGHML | title=subject and content=link then | 11:55 |
| kanzure_ | k | 11:55 |
| UtopiahGHML | what's the keyword for content though, I forgot | 11:55 |
| kanzure_ | fenn: What if we threw in an extension to firefox that makes it cache all tabs to hdd above five tabs or whatever the limit is where it begins to croak? | 11:56 |
| UtopiahGHML | anywya, sent | 11:57 |
| fenn | kanzure_: you dont have a mouse? | 12:02 |
| fenn | woah check out the solar cells on that one | 12:05 |
| fenn | possibly the second most obnoxious file sharing site ever | 12:06 |
| kanzure_ | I have a mouse somewhere. | 12:18 |
| kanzure_ | I set up a mousetrap with some cheese, but it's just been getting green and moldy | 12:19 |
| kanzure_ | "Brain scans of people full of hate show distinct hate signatures" | 12:20 |
| kanzure_ | Hahah. | 12:20 |
| kanzure_ | I wonder what my signature is. | 12:20 |
| kanzure_ | "Good god! This man hates everything!" | 12:20 |
| fenn | Sir! I've detected an alien lifeform, showing unusual hate signatures! | 12:29 |
| fenn | > The copyright belongs to the photographer. | 12:32 |
| fenn | New Buffer Modified | 12:32 |
| fenn | If you hand someone the camera and tell them what to do, are they they photographer or are you? What if you grab a passer-by's camera to take a picture of something? What if you grab a passer-by and ask them to take a picture of something with their camera? | 12:32 |
| fenn | we're so screwed | 12:33 |
| UtopiahGHML | fuck copyright | 13:02 |
| kanzure__ | fenn: Source? | 16:00 |
| fenn | sifter mailing list.. think it was brandyn | 16:01 |
| fenn | the question was then answered; for the curious, the copyright belongs to whoever pressed the shutter button | 16:01 |
| gene_ | are you there kanzure? | 16:01 |
| kanzure__ | fenn: Meh. | 16:02 |
| kanzure__ | gene_: Yes. | 16:02 |
| kanzure__ | gene_: Graphene day is on the 31st, by the way. Flyers are up by the elevators @ ETC floor 2. | 16:02 |
| gene_ | yeah I saw that | 16:02 |
| gene_ | could you open of google chat for a second? | 16:02 |
| gene_ | or is that even working for you? | 16:03 |
| kanzure__ | Yes, I can at the moment. | 16:03 |
| gene_ | I found a new separation process that looks very energy efficient | 16:03 |
| kanzure__ | Why can't you tell me here? | 16:03 |
| gene_ | ok | 16:03 |
| gene_ | so there is this seperation process called froth floation where you bubble air through the algae to cause it to froth | 16:04 |
| gene_ | and extract the froth | 16:04 |
| fenn | mmm algae shake | 16:04 |
| kanzure__ | "Kelp shake". | 16:05 |
| kanzure__ | (meep) | 16:05 |
| gene_ | it cost $30 for ton of algae | 16:05 |
| gene_ | in 1957 | 16:05 |
| kanzure__ | Is this separation or harvesting? | 16:05 |
| fenn | what kind of algae? | 16:05 |
| gene_ | figure has been adjusted for inflation | 16:05 |
| gene_ | separation is harvesting right? | 16:06 |
| kanzure__ | Not really. | 16:06 |
| gene_ | harvesting | 16:06 |
| gene_ | can you send me the current powerpoint? | 16:06 |
| kanzure__ | http://heybryan.org/bioreactor/2008-10-28.ppt | 16:06 |
| gene_ | I'll add froth flotation and the stuff I have to it | 16:07 |
| gene_ | I also found some important figures on harvesting | 16:07 |
| kanzure__ | How are you caculating $30/ton? | 16:07 |
| kanzure__ | *calculating | 16:08 |
| gene_ | a paper told me | 16:08 |
| fenn | dry weight? | 16:08 |
| fenn | (does dry weight include volatile oils?) | 16:08 |
| fenn | istr most algae oil is low molecular weight | 16:09 |
| fenn | um, but i guess they've genengineered that problem away | 16:09 |
| gene_ | http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1057831&blobtype=pdf | 16:10 |
| gene_ | this paper told me | 16:10 |
| gene_ | and I adjusted for inflation | 16:10 |
| kanzure__ | http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1057831&blobtype=pdf | 16:10 |
| kanzure__ | oops, stupid double click | 16:10 |
| gene_ | centrifuging cost $300 per dry ton | 16:11 |
| gene_ | in 1957 | 16:11 |
| gene_ | figure adjusted for inflation | 16:11 |
| kanzure__ | I'm more interested in the price function, i.e. "cost is a function of X, Y, Z" not random dollar signs. | 16:11 |
| kanzure__ | I'm sure you could make an argument that centrifugation cost is a function of cost per kilowatt hour, but then where's the equation of kilowatt hour per multiple of g' you need to clump some density/concentration/mass of algae to visible diameters? etc. | 16:12 |
| kanzure__ | Nice paper. | 16:12 |
| fenn | fish tank filter | 16:14 |
| fenn | "skilter" | 16:14 |
| kanzure__ | I'm going to be adding some prices for flocculants sometime within the next hour to the presentation, so you'll need to push your changes to me. | 16:14 |
| gene_ | oh | 16:14 |
| gene_ | wait | 16:14 |
| gene_ | on flocculants | 16:14 |
| kanzure__ | ? | 16:14 |
| gene_ | UV light can cause algae to flocculate | 16:14 |
| kanzure__ | Yes, you said that yesterday. | 16:15 |
| gene_ | so can interrupting the co2 supply to the algae culture | 16:15 |
| kanzure__ | Yes, we've been testing that with the group. Remember? | 16:15 |
| gene_ | btw | 16:15 |
| gene_ | ok | 16:15 |
| gene_ | so | 16:15 |
| gene_ | what's the lowest pH they have grown algae at? | 16:15 |
| gene_ | 2? | 16:17 |
| gene_ | and has it ever foamed at low pH's | 16:17 |
| fenn | you can buffer the solution with carbonate | 16:18 |
| kanzure__ | fenn: We're doing carbonation studies at the moment. | 16:18 |
| kanzure__ | fenn: By "we" I mean the guys that have been on the project longer than me I guess. | 16:18 |
| fenn | the algae lab? | 16:18 |
| kanzure__ | uh, yeah, call it that I guess | 16:19 |
| fenn | what do they call themselves? | 16:19 |
| gene_ | how low Kanzure? | 16:19 |
| fenn | 2 is pretty low, i doubt carbonic acid would even get that low | 16:20 |
| kanzure__ | I don't have the results. | 16:20 |
| gene_ | I think they were able to grow it at 2 | 16:21 |
| kanzure__ | They were growing at 7 to 9 at one point. | 16:21 |
| fenn | at 10 atm CO2 the pH is only 3.4 | 16:21 |
| gene_ | have you ever noticed a ring of green around the top of the tank? | 16:22 |
| gene_ | I also found a number on harvesting | 16:25 |
| kanzure__ | What's the function? | 16:36 |
| kanzure__ | fenn: http://heybryan.org/graph/sbml_notes.txt Any ideas on changing the species identifier of an object added to the reactants/products list of a reaction object? They want you to call createReactant()/createProduct() and have an object returned, but it looks like 'species' (the variable of the returned object) is protected and there's no public function for modifying it. Thoughts? | 17:42 |
| * kanzure__ goes to chem | 17:42 | |
| UtopiahGHML | is there a registery that maps biobricks to some mathematical/programming_language functions? | 18:02 |
| UtopiahGHML | sth not too low level :-x | 18:03 |
| fenn | kanzure__: i doubt it's protected, try help(createReactant()) to see what's there | 18:47 |
| fenn | probably a documentation error | 18:47 |
| fenn | i wonder why they have a different class for SpeciesReference | 18:49 |
| fenn | instead of something like Reaction(products=[1,2,3], reactants=[4,5,6]) | 18:50 |
| fenn | XML can do that right? | 18:52 |
| fenn | 18:54 | |
| fenn | def libsbml.Species.setCharge libsbml.Species.setCompartment libsbml.Species.setHasOnlySubstanceUnits libsbml.Species.setInitialAmount libsbml.Species.setInitialConcentration | 18:55 |
| fenn | ^^ is that not what you want? | 18:55 |
| fenn | from http://sbml.org/Software/libSBML/docs/python-api/classlibsbml_1_1_species.html | 18:56 |
| fenn | so should end up looking something like createReactant().species.setFoo | 18:58 |
| fenn | (foo) | 18:58 |
| kanzure__ | http://www.molecularassembler.com/Papers/MinToolset.pdf | 19:17 |
| kanzure__ | http://www.thoughtware.tv/videos/watch/2992-Wearable-Computing-Goes-Wireless Olympus HUD | 19:18 |
| kanzure__ | LCD images are reflected on a 3.2mm-wide small optical bar located in front of pupils. | 19:19 |
| kanzure__ | while watching a 3.8-inch screen located 50cm ahead. | 19:19 |
| kanzure__ | Hrm. | 19:19 |
| kanzure__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYmLEAR5X5I | 19:19 |
| kanzure__ | Anyway, thanks fenn. | 19:20 |
| fenn | huh i wonder what resolution | 19:25 |
| fenn | 521 x 218... we are almost back to 1980s tech :\ | 19:27 |
| fenn | oh oh wait maybe it's 854 x 480 | 19:27 |
| fenn | no | 19:29 |
| fenn | what's with these tech companies with no websites | 19:29 |
| UtopiahGHML | Fuel Cell Projects for the Evil Genius http://e-booklovers.blogspot.com/2008/10/download-fuel-cell-projects-for-evil.html | 19:44 |
| UtopiahGHML | Sentient Creatures presents: Bio-Art - Joe Davis and Robert Zwijnenberg http://transition.turbulence.org/blog/2008/10/22/live-stage-bio-art-amsterdam/ | 19:49 |
| UtopiahGHML | Textiles Futures Research Group Presents: What Future for Living Textiles? http://transition.turbulence.org/blog/2008/10/20/what-future-for-living-textiles-london/ | 19:50 |
| gene_ | Kanzure should I get numbers on hexane solvent extraction | 20:42 |
| * xp_prg misses ppk | 21:30 | |
| willPow3r | xp_prg, russian techno group? | 21:38 |
| xp_prg | ppk is a guy who has been helping me | 21:38 |
| willPow3r | what is it that you're working on? | 21:47 |
| xp_prg | a front end for bio bricks configuration and then saving to sbml | 21:47 |
| willPow3r | biobricks == interesting | 21:55 |
| * willPow3r just looked into it for 1st time | 21:56 | |
| UtopiahGHML | willPow3r: any idea of what you would want to build it with those? | 21:57 |
| UtopiahGHML | -it | 21:57 |
| willPow3r | there seem to be a plethora of possibilities | 21:59 |
| UtopiahGHML | an entire world of possibilities? :) | 21:59 |
| willPow3r | maybe even an entire galaxy of possibilities | 22:01 |
| willPow3r | and if you've played spore, you know how massive that truly is | 22:01 |
| willPow3r | you could build protein synthesizers with biobricks | 22:03 |
| UtopiahGHML | let's just say a dimension, so what do *you* want to build? | 22:03 |
| willPow3r | then again, i don't really know enough about it to even guess at the possibilities | 22:04 |
| UtopiahGHML | have you seen Casshern? | 22:12 |
| willPow3r | sci-fi anime? | 22:15 |
| UtopiahGHML | was a japanese action movie | 22:15 |
| bkero | There's a ton of bad sci-fi anime. | 22:15 |
| bkero | There's a TON of bad anime. | 22:15 |
| UtopiahGHML | There's a TON of bad stuff. | 22:15 |
| bkero | Ok | 22:16 |
| bkero | The majority of anime is terrible. | 22:16 |
| UtopiahGHML | That's why you usually look for reviews, ratings, etc... | 22:16 |
| willPow3r | samurai champloo was the only one i liked | 22:16 |
| bkero | willPow3r: Have you seen Bebop? | 22:16 |
| UtopiahGHML | the majority of the majority of everything is terrible... | 22:16 |
| willPow3r | nope, heard it was good though | 22:16 |
| bkero | UtopiahGHML: The proportion of shit to good in anime is much higher than most other subjects I can think of. | 22:17 |
| UtopiahGHML | Ghost in the Shell, Lain, Akira, Ergo Proxy, etc... | 22:17 |
| bkero | willPow3r: If you liked Champloo, watch Bebop. Champloo is good, but Bebop is better. | 22:17 |
| willPow3r | cowboy bebop? | 22:19 |
| bkero | Yes | 22:20 |
| bkero | It comes on top of Hellsing for it's amazing soundtrack. | 22:20 |
| bkero | I can pretty much put 5 cowboy bebop albums in a playlist and let it run for hours. | 22:21 |
| willPow3r | is it like underground hiphop? | 22:21 |
| bkero | No, sir. | 22:21 |
| bkero | Bebop is not underground hip hop. | 22:22 |
| bkero | It's much better. :) | 22:22 |
| willPow3r | that was one of the reasons i liked champloo | 22:22 |
| bkero | You might not appreciate the jazz then. | 22:22 |
| willPow3r | jazz is good | 22:22 |
| bkero | Watch Cowboy Bebop. You won't regret it. | 22:22 |
| willPow3r | i'll download it tonight from usenet | 22:22 |
| bkero | You can even watch the dub without a problem. | 22:22 |
| bkero | The animation was made to be dubbed, and it worked excellently in comparison to other dubs. | 22:23 |
| willPow3r | has anybody looked into djvu format rather than pdf? | 22:54 |
| kanzure_ | Yes. | 23:06 |
| willPow3r | results? | 23:06 |
| kanzure_ | Nobody stores files in djvu. | 23:08 |
| kanzure_ | That's the results. | 23:08 |
| kanzure_ | But yes, I have used djvu and the djview apps | 23:08 |
| kanzure_ | dea-ja-view app thingy | 23:09 |
| willPow3r | pdf still takes the cake then i take it | 23:09 |
| wrldpc | does anyone have a link to Cumbers' biomining mock-up? | 23:29 |
| drazak | wrldpc: which kind of biomining? | 23:46 |
| wrldpc | it's a system that was going to be open source to track where samples are etc | 23:46 |
| drazak | ah cool | 23:46 |
| kanzure_ | wrldpc: Yes. | 23:48 |
| kanzure_ | http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/Moontank | 23:48 |
| kanzure_ | That might have a link to his work. | 23:48 |
| xp_prg | kanzure_ how goes the sbml python stuff? | 23:51 |
| kanzure_ | You're not doing it any more? | 23:51 |
| xp_prg | no I am, I thought I saw you asking questions about it and thought you were doing it now | 23:52 |
| xp_prg | specific coding questions if I recall | 23:52 |
| xp_prg | dude I am doing it relax :> | 23:52 |
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