| --- Day changed Thu Oct 30 2008 | ||
| kanzure_ | Huh. Google's pushing Obama. | 00:12 |
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| xp_prg | you like Obama kanzure_ ? | 00:17 |
| kanzure_ | I'm just saying that Google is pushing Obama. | 00:17 |
| kanzure_ | Particularly Schmidt. | 00:17 |
| Nofaris | How | 00:27 |
| kanzure_ | Interview. | 00:27 |
| Nofaris | Okay | 00:27 |
| splicer | Seen from the outside it seems he got the biggest push from the brain trust that chose palin for VP. | 00:53 |
| ybit | re: olympus mobile eye-trek :: did a quick patent search for olymps just now... http://www.google.com/patents?id=VlF7AAAAEBAJ -- seems to be for cameras; http://www.google.com/patents?id=VlF7AAAAEBAJ -- possibly related, can't tell, maybe someone could look at it further; | 02:07 |
| ybit | http://www.google.com/patents?id=MoB_AAAAEBAJ&dq=olympus&as_drrb_ap=b&as_minm_ap=1&as_miny_ap=2005&as_maxm_ap=10&as_maxy_ap=2008&as_drrb_is=b&as_minm_is=1&as_miny_is=2005&as_maxm_is=10&as_maxy_is=2008 -- seems to be an older model but still related; http://www.google.com/patents?id=tFuBAAAAEBAJ -- "information display system"; http://www.google.com/patents?id=6nCBAAAAEBAJ -- figure someone can archive this for the diyer that experiences this some day | 02:07 |
| kanzure_ | blargh? | 02:08 |
| kanzure_ | Alright. | 02:08 |
| ybit | the "seems to be related" patent mentions making the device 1/6 its original size, search for "sixth" | 02:09 |
| ybit | s/"seems to be related"/"possibly related, can't tell maybe..." | 02:10 |
| kanzure_ | Can anyone explain why people take so much time to think of what they're saying when they are in front of a camera? The ridiculous amount of pauses. | 02:13 |
| Nofaris | Because they didn't practice enough beforehand | 02:32 |
| Nofaris | Alternately, they could be fighting their nervousness | 02:32 |
| * Nofaris hates being in front of cameras | 02:32 | |
| * willPow3r is comfortable in front of cameras, but only when i'm not wearing any clothes | 03:05 | |
| gene_ | http://www.physorg.com/news144495604.html | 03:52 |
| gene_ | new brain interfacing method developed | 03:52 |
| gene_ | er... what I meant to say was that a new NON-INVASIVE brain interfacing method has been developed | 03:53 |
| ybit | who has read engines of creation all the way through? | 03:57 |
| ybit | or intends to | 03:58 |
| gene_ | heard of it not read it | 03:59 |
| willPow3r | i'm probably going to read the first 2 chapters then extrapolate | 03:59 |
| ybit | it doesn't matter so much, i'll talk about whatever i read in here anyway regardless | 03:59 |
| willPow3r | like i did with singularity is near | 03:59 |
| gene_ | oh and by the way did I tell you guys that a new non-invasive neural interface was developed? | 04:00 |
| willPow3r | gene_, 8 mins ago | 04:01 |
| gene_ | yeah | 04:01 |
| kanzure_ | Which one? | 04:01 |
| kanzure_ | I don't do links at the moment, you'll have to tell us. | 04:02 |
| gene_ | it uses ultrasound | 04:03 |
| gene_ | that goes through your skull | 04:04 |
| kanzure_ | Can you get me the PLOS link? | 04:05 |
| procto | willPow3r: as long as your extrapolations follow a strict exponential curve you'll be fine | 04:06 |
| procto | that's a straight line on a log scale | 04:06 |
| gene_ | maybe | 04:06 |
| * procto pees in a straight line | 04:07 | |
| procto | on a log scale | 04:07 |
| willPow3r | right. | 04:07 |
| kanzure_ | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/Ultrasound_brain.pdf got it. | 04:07 |
| willPow3r | my extrapolations follow an s-curve | 04:07 |
| kanzure_ | sigmoid? | 04:07 |
| willPow3r | precisely | 04:08 |
| gene_ | no | 04:09 |
| gene_ | damn | 04:09 |
| * procto tried to think of a jung joke but couldn't | 04:09 | |
| gene_ | I think I found the researchers facebook page though | 04:09 |
| kanzure_ | Anyway, ultrasound is a big 'diy' thing. | 04:09 |
| kanzure_ | gene_: Their individual pages? That's not hard .. just type in their names and search for ARIZONA. | 04:10 |
| gene_ | yeah | 04:10 |
| gene_ | I just found a guy on google who has the same name as one of the researchers | 04:10 |
| gene_ | oh yeah and someone got e.coli to blink | 04:11 |
| gene_ | like a clock | 04:11 |
| kanzure_ | What frequency? | 04:11 |
| gene_ | http://www.physorg.com/news144506053.html | 04:11 |
| kanzure_ | Over a period of hours, that's easy, just an oscillation circuit. | 04:11 |
| gene_ | its in nature I can't look it up | 04:11 |
| gene_ | doesn't say | 04:12 |
| gene_ | it says it is precise though | 04:12 |
| kanzure_ | Not news. | 04:12 |
| gene_ | ok | 04:14 |
| willPow3r | that kind of reminds me of that device in star trek that bones used to heal that one polish dude in the movie where they steal the whales | 04:27 |
| willPow3r | the ultrasound thing | 04:28 |
| kanzure_ | Weird, there's an article out there talking about how Tom Cruise bought a sonogram and how evil it is to buy your sonography machine. | 04:37 |
| wrldpc | my friend troy used lithotriptor in a rap once. | 05:16 |
| willPow3r_ | 1337 | 05:18 |
| willPow3r_ | is it just me or does jim gates seem like a womanizer or child molester | 05:56 |
| wrldpc | sylvester gates? | 05:58 |
| willPow3r_ | the superstring theorist | 05:58 |
| willPow3r_ | yes thats him | 05:59 |
| willPow3r_ | he's in total white-man mode in his video series "superstring theory" but i can see his dark side come out every now and then | 06:01 |
| willPow3r_ | just an observation. he's an extremely intelligent guy. i'm not racist | 06:03 |
| willPow3r_ | just ethnocentric | 06:03 |
| Nofaris | white-man mode? | 06:07 |
| willPow3r_ | this conversation is impossible to embark upon without sounding like a total racist. | 06:09 |
| Nofaris | :) | 06:09 |
| Nofaris | That's fine | 06:09 |
| Nofaris | I won't consider you racist | 06:09 |
| Nofaris | I want to understand what you mean | 06:10 |
| willPow3r_ | ok. | 06:10 |
| Nofaris | What makes you sound racist is if you don't explain "White-man mode" | 06:10 |
| Nofaris | lol | 06:10 |
| willPow3r_ | when black people interface with other black people, they have a certain conversational mode they use | 06:10 |
| willPow3r_ | its generally a much more communal method of communication | 06:10 |
| willPow3r_ | with many people engaging in said activity at the same time, with lots of laughter, loudness, etc | 06:11 |
| willPow3r_ | but when black people talk to white people, they "switch" modes and talk one person at a time, more quietly | 06:12 |
| willPow3r_ | and with a noticeably wider vocabulary | 06:12 |
| willPow3r_ | at least, wider from a white person's perspective | 06:12 |
| willPow3r_ | i have a few black friends who admit this behavior | 06:13 |
| willPow3r_ | its a very interesting phenomenon, but i think it's little-understood due to the stigmatizing effects of race-specific research | 06:13 |
| willPow3r_ | so thats what i mean by "white-man mode" | 06:14 |
| willPow3r_ | i can see his black-man mode come out every once in a while in the videos | 06:15 |
| willPow3r_ | and its so funny because it totally betrays his portrayal of himself | 06:15 |
| xp_prg2 | kanzure you here? | 06:38 |
| xp_prg2 | I made my first python libsbml program! | 07:09 |
| -!- xp_prg2 is now known as xp_bed | 07:16 | |
| fenn | breaking news: ultrasound machines cause lefthandedness!!! | 07:43 |
| fenn | Tom Cruise is so gonna have a lefty | 07:43 |
| fenn | with a middle tooth | 07:43 |
| fenn | http://www.youhaventlived.com/qblog/2005/QBlog030605B.html <- middle tooth | 07:44 |
| fenn | "anyone conducting ultrasound testing without a medical prescription from a physician is breaking the law." guess we ought to ramp up the war on dolphins | 07:47 |
| willPow3r | i cant believe that dolphins would so blatantly break the law like that | 07:57 |
| fenn | they dont have fishing permits either | 07:59 |
| wrldpc | war on dolphins | 08:18 |
| wrldpc | damn those porpoises. | 08:19 |
| fenn | promiscuous permitless porpoises! | 08:20 |
| fenn | maybe we could infect their culture with internet memes | 08:20 |
| wrldpc | lol | 08:47 |
| wrldpc | remember jones from johnny mnemonic? | 08:47 |
| wrldpc | or those dolphin bastards from the illuminatus trilogy? | 08:47 |
| fenn | hmm non-24-hour circadian sleep disorder "has most often been reported in blind people." i wonder if it's due to lack of sunlight or my "tunnel vision" | 09:53 |
| UtopiahGHML | Plantes connect?es et robots fleurs http://www.internetactu.net/2008/10/28/plantes-connectees-et-robots-fleurs/ | 10:00 |
| fenn | These results indicate that a low melatonin level, caused by a primary deficit in ASMT (gene) activity, is a risk factor for ASD. (autistic spectrum disorder) | 11:34 |
| fenn | bah sample size of 3 | 11:36 |
| fenn | there should be a statistical significance number stamped in bold red at the top of every science journal article | 11:37 |
| kanzure_ | I wonder how these things get published. | 11:39 |
| kanzure_ | http://heybryan.org/graph/sbml_notes_2.txt | 11:40 |
| fenn | ok their sample size was 250 but they only found 3 people with the defective gene | 11:41 |
| kanzure_ | http://heybryan.org/graph/xp_prg_sbmlTest.py | 11:43 |
| fenn | think you saved that file wrong | 11:46 |
| kanzure_ | Fixed. | 11:47 |
| fenn | wheee. so what does that do? | 11:49 |
| fenn | i mean, now you have a reaction model, but what's it for? | 11:49 |
| fenn | it would plot a line with slope 0.5 | 11:50 |
| kanzure_ | Fixed sbml_notes_2.txt .. | 11:50 |
| kanzure_ | The "I wanna make a quick buck off of you-guyz's hard work" newbie on diybio pisses me off. | 12:38 |
| kanzure_ | I can relate to being broke and being in college, but that's where I draw the line .. | 12:39 |
| * kanzure_ leaves | 12:54 | |
| UtopiahGHML | http://www.chrisharrison.net/projects/scratchinput/index.html awesome | 12:58 |
| fenn | damn i was hoping they would triangulate the signal to find x,y coordinates of the fingernail | 13:14 |
| UtopiahGHML | yep but I was hoping something more precise | 13:15 |
| UtopiahGHML | but also this is so simple | 13:15 |
| UtopiahGHML | yet pratical | 13:15 |
| UtopiahGHML | unlike something potentially enormous that never works | 13:15 |
| UtopiahGHML | plus... Im sure it's open so you can improve it :D | 13:16 |
| fenn | i'm not convinced it's useful even with position coords | 13:17 |
| UtopiahGHML | it's a natural interface | 13:17 |
| fenn | but is it any better than, say, an accelerometer? | 13:17 |
| UtopiahGHML | it's neither better or worse, it just opens new possibilities | 13:19 |
| UtopiahGHML | http://www.snpedia.com/index.php/User:Lilly_Mendel weird | 13:30 |
| UtopiahGHML | # rs363039(C;C) increased performance IQ | 13:30 |
| UtopiahGHML | # rs363050(A;G) 3+ IQ points | 13:30 |
| UtopiahGHML | sounds like a video game | 13:31 |
| fenn | i wonder how much of that has a basis in reality | 13:34 |
| fenn | i could never make up my mind whether to be a thief or a mage | 13:36 |
| fenn | A previously-married woman heads to bed for the first time with her new beau, and to his surprise, she admits to being a virgin. When he wonders why, she says, "Well, I was married to a genome biologist, and every night, he just sat in bed and talked about how great our sex life would be someday." | 13:55 |
| xp_prg | kanzure you here? | 17:07 |
| UtopiahGHML | (gosh, no coffee for 24h I was going to die) | 17:08 |
| xp_prg | I made my first libsbml python script! | 17:14 |
| UtopiahGHML | congrats | 17:15 |
| xp_prg | where kanzure!!! | 17:15 |
| bkero | New ubuntu is out for you ubuntards | 17:15 |
| xp_prg | wow cool, what are the differences? | 17:15 |
| UtopiahGHML | xp_prg: stop looking for validation, just to your best and improve :) | 17:16 |
| xp_prg | I don't look for validation, my work speaks for itself :> | 17:16 |
| bkero | I dunno | 17:17 |
| bkero | I don't touch that stuff | 17:17 |
| xp_prg | bkero what do you like? | 17:17 |
| bkero | Rolling releases | 17:17 |
| xp_prg | waht distro? | 17:18 |
| bkero | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_release | 17:18 |
| bkero | Gentoo | 17:18 |
| xp_prg | I have not seen the rolling release approach work well, I wish it did :( | 17:18 |
| bkero | What hasn't worked well about it? | 17:18 |
| UtopiahGHML | bkero: does Gentoo offer a way to install it over the Internet with the last packages? | 17:19 |
| bkero | UtopiahGHML: Gentoo has always installed over the internet. | 17:19 |
| xp_prg | well upgrading breaks things, debian lives in the stoneage | 17:19 |
| xp_prg | can't get new packages | 17:19 |
| bkero | Debian lived in the stone age. Unstable is pretty good now. | 17:19 |
| xp_prg | gentoo is so complex words don't describe how difficult it is to manage and work with | 17:19 |
| UtopiahGHML | eh... | 17:19 |
| bkero | Gentoo isn't so complex. I manage 300 gentoo machines at work :) | 17:20 |
| UtopiahGHML | xp_prg: Linux distro are only as complex as how little you know about GNU/Linux | 17:20 |
| bkero | Instead of 'apt-get install gnome', you 'emerge gnome'. Instead of 'apt-get remove gnome' you 'emerge --unmerge gnome'. | 17:20 |
| xp_prg | bkero is it truely easy to work with, I heard just configuring like the hardware is insane | 17:21 |
| bkero | To 'apt-get update', you 'emerge --sync'. To get a specific version of bash, you can 'emerge =app-shells/bash-3.2_p33' | 17:21 |
| xp_prg | UtopiahGHML I have the utmost respect for gentoo users, its a massive undertaking | 17:22 |
| bkero | You can use genkernel, and have a huge modularized kernel like every other release does. Or you can 'emerge vanilla-sources' or 'emerge gentoo-sources', then 'cd /usr/src/linux' and 'make menuconfig'. Select your hardware from a list, then save it, and 'make && make install' | 17:22 |
| xp_prg | bkero what about configuring the hardware? | 17:22 |
| UtopiahGHML | xp_prg: spend one weekend installing Linux From Scratch alias LFS then all the distro will look easy after that and IMHO it wrothes the trouble since you learn a lot | 17:22 |
| xp_prg | UtophiahGHML I lack the patience, when I want to get something done in like 20 minutes, I turn to ubuntu, sad but true | 17:23 |
| bkero | Gentoo also supports binary packages. | 17:23 |
| UtopiahGHML | xp_prg: type uto[tab] faster ;) | 17:23 |
| xp_prg | bkero what about configuring hardware? | 17:23 |
| bkero | I don't understand. | 17:23 |
| bkero | You mean like setting your IP? | 17:24 |
| xp_prg | is it automatic? | 17:24 |
| bkero | Define 'hardware'. | 17:24 |
| xp_prg | no like configuring drivers for video cards, network cards, things like that | 17:24 |
| bkero | Oh | 17:24 |
| UtopiahGHML | if you don't have crazy hardware the Linux kernel supports it so it's distro intedependant | 17:24 |
| kanzure__ | "Fetched 20 MB in 10 seconds." <-- I never want to leave this place. | 17:24 |
| bkero | emerge xf86-video-(intel|radeonhd|nvidia) for video | 17:24 |
| kanzure__ | Yes, xp_prg, I am here. | 17:25 |
| xp_prg | kanzure did you see I made an sbml file with python last night! | 17:25 |
| bkero | New X pretty much configures itself. Wireless is kind of a pain in the ass. | 17:25 |
| kanzure__ | xp_prg: It's on the server. | 17:25 |
| UtopiahGHML | bkero: configure itself configure itself... wanted to have multiple screen with my ATI in my X31 it didn't reallt configured itself :-x | 17:26 |
| xp_prg | kanzure__ ok, so tell me what you want me to do now, give me more tasks | 17:26 |
| bkero | UtopiahGHML: For multiple screens, just use xrandr | 17:27 |
| xp_prg | kanzure__ did you get to run it? | 17:27 |
| kanzure__ | xp_prg: I don't know why you didn't bother to just make it do the whole thing. | 17:27 |
| kanzure__ | I mean, you were writing in the file anyway at the time .. | 17:28 |
| kanzure__ | what's two or three more lines, anyway? | 17:28 |
| xp_prg | the whole thing? | 17:28 |
| xp_prg | what is the whole thing? | 17:28 |
| UtopiahGHML | is there any Lisp/Haskell/Functionnal_language mapping for biobricks? | 17:29 |
| xp_prg | python is a functional language | 17:29 |
| UtopiahGHML | well | 17:29 |
| UtopiahGHML | guess one could generate some Python with Lisp, true | 17:29 |
| xp_prg | kanzure__ ? | 17:29 |
| fenn | python _can_be_ functional in about the same way as lisp _can_be_ object oriented | 17:31 |
| xp_prg | kanzure__ what is the script missing that you want it to do? | 17:32 |
| UtopiahGHML | I don't know Python well enough to agree or disagree so Ill trust you | 17:32 |
| xp_prg | python is your friend, supports lambda functions, introspection etc... | 17:33 |
| UtopiahGHML | well thing is, it seems to be more and more popular on the web, like a lot of API provide python hooks by default so Im starting to consider it more and more seriously | 17:35 |
| xp_prg | ya I think it is popular, especially because of its easy of use | 17:35 |
| xp_prg | its like visual basic for linux but with advanced features | 17:36 |
| UtopiahGHML | wow | 17:36 |
| UtopiahGHML | that doesn't sound appealing at all now ;) | 17:36 |
| * fenn resents comparison with VB | 17:36 | |
| xp_prg | well it is not as hard as c++ or java | 17:36 |
| fenn | you dont have to type a lot of meaningless bullshit to get the job done | 17:37 |
| fenn | and you dont have to read it either | 17:37 |
| fenn | but it is a "real" programming language | 17:37 |
| xp_prg | kanzure_ dude, I did what you said, you don't want to tell me more about what you want in the python script? | 17:37 |
| UtopiahGHML | is manipulating the code itself with code easy? | 17:37 |
| fenn | uh, there is an eval() but it's discouraged | 17:38 |
| xp_prg | I haven't done a whole lot of that, but lamda anonymous functions are supported | 17:38 |
| fenn | there's lots of try: except: stuff | 17:38 |
| fenn | hasattr() | 17:38 |
| faceface | http://www.pnas.org/content/96/14/8028.full | 17:38 |
| UtopiahGHML | faceface: please title+link not just one or the other :/ | 17:39 |
| faceface | http://www.conservapedia.com/Letter_to_PNAS | 17:39 |
| UtopiahGHML | faceface: please title+link not just one or the other :/ | 17:39 |
| faceface | http://pastebin.com/d69c7855a | 17:39 |
| fenn | bwahaha | 17:39 |
| faceface | The evolution of language -- PNAS | 17:40 |
| faceface | http://www.pnas.org/content/96/14/8028.full | 17:40 |
| UtopiahGHML | thank you | 17:40 |
| faceface | The emergence of language was a defining moment in the evolution of modern humans. It was an innovation that changed radically the character of human society. Here, we provide an approach to language evolution based on evolutionary game theory. | 17:40 |
| faceface | http://pastebin.com/d41cdf43f | 17:40 |
| UtopiahGHML | (you could eventually have bind to share link in IRC, faster) | 17:40 |
| faceface | bind? | 17:40 |
| UtopiahGHML | shortcuts | 17:41 |
| xp_prg | why is kanzure__ ignoring me when I have done what he has asked? | 17:41 |
| faceface | xp_prg, he secretly hates you :( | 17:42 |
| UtopiahGHML | :P | 17:42 |
| faceface | only joking! | 17:42 |
| faceface | don't know... | 17:42 |
| faceface | lets all shout at kanzure__ | 17:42 |
| xp_prg | well, that is uncool | 17:42 |
| fenn | xp_prg: i think it's because you turned out to be a windows monkey | 17:42 |
| xp_prg | I love linux! | 17:42 |
| faceface | xp_prg, how much do you love it? | 17:46 |
| faceface | prove it to us!!! | 17:46 |
| faceface | mount that disk!!! | 17:46 |
| fenn | grep it all night long | 17:47 |
| UtopiahGHML | faceface: don't askk him to take a naked picture of him with Tux, please. | 17:47 |
| * xp_prg disrobes | 17:48 | |
| * bkero wretches. | 17:49 | |
| * xp_prg stands by his linux box | 17:49 | |
| xp_prg | take the picture you fool! | 17:49 |
| UtopiahGHML | uh.. | 17:49 |
| kanzure__ | xp_prg: I don't really want to give you more tasks because you don't seem to understand. Your python script is a step in the right direction, but I had to do it anyway before you got it to me, so it was untimely and after beating into your head (or trying to) one too many times. :-/ | 17:50 |
| xp_prg | ok your loss | 17:51 |
| kanzure__ | fenn: I've been noticing how quick VB runs on Windows. They must have a lot of extra optimization tricks there. | 17:51 |
| kanzure__ | My loss? | 17:51 |
| bkero | Like undocumented APIs | 17:51 |
| kanzure__ | bkero: I have yet to spot a whole in MSDN. But then again I'm not looking. | 17:51 |
| bkero | kanzure__: IE has been found to be using undocumented API calls to speed starting time. | 17:53 |
| fenn | hehe 'IsNot' operator patented | 17:53 |
| bkero | They patented a NOT gate? | 17:53 |
| fenn | or tried to at least | 17:54 |
| kanzure__ | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/repo/rules/ <- I have no idea if these will work with graphsynth or not. Maybe. | 17:56 |
| kanzure__ | They're not too interesting yet. | 17:56 |
| fenn | i need to learn how to write unit tests some day | 18:00 |
| kanzure__ | when I do rapid coding I sometimes write unit tests, but they aren't "formal" | 18:01 |
| kanzure__ | also, they don't plug into make files or anything, so it's even worse than informal | 18:01 |
| fenn | i guess i just have trouble with the concept since i'm more "bottom up" programmer | 18:02 |
| kanzure__ | I've never really needed to use a unit test I guess | 18:02 |
| kanzure__ | "all journeys start with a first step" s/journey/program/ s/step/line/ | 18:03 |
| fenn | all programs start with <vasodilator of choice> | 18:03 |
| fenn | and plenty of silence | 18:04 |
| xp_prg | is there an api to lookup the dna sequence for a specific bio brick? | 18:04 |
| fenn | oik.. "Note: while the gender ratio in computing as a whole is about six to one, the ratio in open source is closer to 200:1" | 18:06 |
| fenn | hunted to extinction indeed | 18:07 |
| fenn | UtopiahGHML: this has been recommended by various people: http://diveintopython.org/toc/index.html | 18:08 |
| fenn | hmm it doesnt say anything about generators | 18:09 |
| fenn | huh i learned a new python introspection method: dir() | 19:29 |
| fenn | returns list of attributes | 19:30 |
| kanzure__ | attributes of a dir? | 19:36 |
| fenn | attributes of a python object | 19:37 |
| fenn | or class or module or whatever | 19:37 |
| fenn | help() is better suited to humans of course | 19:38 |
| kanzure__ | now I feel silly having gone to the api docs | 19:49 |
| kanzure__ | Given a random graph, what's the average connectivity? The probability of a certain vertex having a certain number of connections. | 20:00 |
| fenn | depends on the graph | 20:00 |
| fenn | how you define "random graph" | 20:01 |
| kanzure__ | right, like the saturation measure | 20:01 |
| kanzure__ | I'm not quite sure | 20:01 |
| kanzure__ | I'm randomly generating a graph | 20:01 |
| kanzure__ | and am wondering how to make it look 'natural' | 20:01 |
| kanzure__ | as if I haven't been randomly generating them | 20:01 |
| kanzure__ | 50/50 probability of a node having an arc? That doesn't sound right. | 20:02 |
| fenn | arc = degenerate graph? | 20:02 |
| kanzure__ | huh? | 20:02 |
| kanzure__ | arc = edge | 20:02 |
| fenn | anyway i think the number of connections should follow a 1/x distribution | 20:03 |
| kanzure__ | arc = degenerate linux though. :/ | 20:03 |
| fenn | erf its past bedtime | 20:03 |
| kanzure__ | how can you tell? | 20:03 |
| fenn | number of nodes with n edges = 1/n | 20:03 |
| fenn | times total | 20:04 |
| fenn | small world network | 20:05 |
| fenn | all nodes should eventually be reachable from all other nodes | 20:07 |
| fenn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scale-free_network | 20:09 |
| kanzure__ | http://search.cpan.org/dist/Math-TrulyRandom/TrulyRandom.pod <- I'm insulted. | 20:16 |
| kanzure__ | fenn: If you had to be forced to select an item from a defined set, and this was on a web page, how would you want to do it? Something other than a SELECT element perhaps? | 20:52 |
| -!- Nofaris is now known as Nofairs | 21:12 | |
| kanzure__ | http://www.contextfreeart.org/gallery/view.php?id=1399 <-- They have to be cheating. | 21:14 |
| willPow3r | so halloween is failing to restore consumer confidence. | 21:23 |
| willPow3r | so much for that 5x5 hex | 21:23 |
| willPow3r | to bring it back | 21:23 |
| kanzure__ | What's "consumer confidence"? | 21:27 |
| kanzure__ | That their products are really, truly their products? | 21:27 |
| willPow3r | in their ability to spend money they don't have | 21:27 |
| kanzure__ | I thought people excelled at that? | 21:28 |
| willPow3r | only when they see that everybody else feels confident, as shown by the consumer confidence index | 21:29 |
| xp_prg | ppk you back yet? | 21:47 |
| kanzure__ | willPow3r: Isn't that a dangerous feedback loop? | 21:52 |
| kanzure__ | fenn: Weren't you the one who was showing me contextfreeart.org? | 22:24 |
| UtopiahGHML | if that's not a proof that the universe is fractal... | 22:30 |
| kanzure__ | http://dhcp-84-253.me.utexas.edu/graph/graph-easy/ | 22:42 |
| kanzure__ | "New and improved" | 22:42 |
| kanzure__ | MAKE button doesn't do anything except fail. | 22:42 |
| kanzure__ | (But note the other modifications.) | 22:42 |
| kanzure__ | "Make" will eventually show you the intersection between the graph that you have drawn, of various functions and whatnot, and that of the "solutions" to those 'black boxes' already in the database. | 22:45 |
| ybit | kanzure_ saw the moontank page, very interesting | 23:26 |
| kanzure_ | Only just now? :) It's quite old. | 23:26 |
| ybit | aside from an attempt to preserve humans bio culture on earth, what's the point in a moonbase? | 23:26 |
| ybit | yeah, i saw it a few days ago, but it has my mind atm :) | 23:27 |
| kanzure_ | Months old, I mean. | 23:27 |
| kanzure_ | There are many competing concepts of moonbases. | 23:27 |
| ybit | i know, i see the dates | 23:27 |
| kanzure_ | Everything from "That's no moon, that's a space station." to "mining facilities". | 23:27 |
| kanzure_ | and to "well, we have a flag, at least, right? Right? Oh, that's a conspiracy too?" | 23:28 |
| ybit | ugh, i just realized a few ideas which answered my question. unfortunately, i have an astro dork meeting. cheers | 23:30 |
| kanzure_ | "My father was a type of he-man, working on the atomic bomb project at day, sleeping with Marilyn Monroe at night. And selling secrets to the Russians over lunch." - Dr. Frink. | 23:40 |
| splicer | sounds like a guy who lived life to the fullest | 23:41 |
| kanzure_ | You know Fink? | 23:42 |
| kanzure_ | I suppose that's Professor Fink, not doctor. | 23:42 |
| kanzure_ | Frink. | 23:43 |
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