2008-12-08.log

--- Day changed Mon Dec 08 2008
kanzure_https://www.plm.automation.siemens.com/about_us/press2/omb.shtml00:54
kanzure_"A globally-scalable and open technology backbone designed to transform the process of digital manufacturing00:54
kanzure_UGS' Open Manufacturing Backbone (OMB) is a digital platform that provides an open environment for third-party application developers to independently create software solutions that seamlessly interoperate with one another in a single digital manufacturing system. Creating applications via OMB assures developers that their applications will have instant compatibility and interoperability, not only with each other, but also with UGS' own Tecnomatix sui00:54
kanzure_I don't know what it actually is though00:54
kanzureoh, PSL. process specication language stuff.00:57
kanzurefenn, new email on om re: PSL. you'll like.01:12
kanzureI'm sure I've seen it before but in a fit of aspiehood I suspect I ignored it01:13
bkeroYou guys should send me some parts so I can make an open source fabricator :)01:13
fenndon't you already have a reprap?01:13
bkeroNYC Resistor has a reprap01:14
bkeroI visited there last Thursday01:14
fennah01:14
bkeroI typically live in Oregon01:14
kanzuresure you do~01:15
bkeroThe mechanical engineering college has a decent axis CNC mill, but nobody is allowed to use it, except for class projects01:15
kanzureyou also pull a double Intel + Google job~01:15
bkerokanzure: http://www.osuosl.org/info/people01:15
kanzurehaha :)01:15
kanzurehacker!01:15
bkerokanzure: Intel was my summer internship, that was up in Portland.  I'm working at google for another 2 weeks, then it's back to OSU and the OSL for me01:15
kanzure_http://groups.google.com/group/openmanufacturing/t/b2e21ccc953d6328 <- email on Process Specification Language01:18
kanzure_Read it or else you will burn in the fifth dimension of the room slightly to the left of hell.01:18
bkeroI got promoted to an executive position in hell01:19
bkeroQuite comfy.  I have some beachfront property on the lake of fire.01:19
bkeroThe rent's a little high, but it's worth it.01:19
kanzureAh, so your babes are burning away.01:19
fennbabes for rent01:20
bkeroSluts in a box01:22
kanzureisn't that a porno?01:24
bkerono01:25
bkeroDo you guys know any good CAD/CAM software that's open?02:02
kanzurehah02:02
kanzureNo. brlcad maybe. fenn has a more complete list IIRC02:03
fenndepends what you mean02:03
bkeroI've been looking at BRLCAD02:03
bkeroI was looking at designing some tube frame for vehicles02:03
fennbrlcad and blender seem to be the two main choices02:04
kanzureI was looking at Varkon the other day, but it sucks for that02:04
bkeroBRLCAD looks like a lot of ballistic and electromagnetic analysis02:04
bkerohttp://sagcad.sourceforge.jp/ is kind of lol02:04
fennboth with awful interfaces unfortunately02:04
fennqcad is ok for 2d stuff02:05
bkero:/02:05
fennor inkscape02:05
bkeroI need 3d02:05
kanzureAutocad 2008 fails to install in wine last time I checked02:05
kanzureNot sure about Solidworks yet.02:05
bkeroI've used solidworks before02:06
bkeroI want something open ideally :/02:06
fennsome up-and-coming 3d cad packages are wildcat-cad and freecad02:06
fennand avocado, but that sucks02:06
kanzure_        A Language for Process Specification (ALPS) Project [4], the Toronto Virtual02:07
fennfor doing precisely placed tubes, you should used brlcad02:07
kanzure_Enterprise (TOVE) Project [5], the Enterprise Ontology Project [6], and the Core Plan02:07
kanzure_Representation (CPR) Project [7]02:07
bkeroMaybe I just need to use solidworks and dream for a world with good open source CAD softwre02:08
fennmaybe02:08
kanzure:'(02:08
kanzureOr you could just become even more superawesome and go submit some bugfixes to all of the cad packages tonight02:09
bkeroI'm at work tonight, writing unit tests02:09
fennfor what02:09
* bkero wants to build himself an open source car :(02:09
fenndont we all02:10
kanzureand an open source jet02:10
kanzureand an os death star02:10
kanzureand an os space station02:10
bkerohttp://archimedes.incubadora.fapesp.br/portal02:10
kanzure?02:10
kanzurebkero, at work, do you integrate the unit tests into the make toolchain?02:11
bkerokanzure: Not make, but another google-specific toolchain02:11
kanzure_http://www.conradbock.org/03:35
kanzure_http://www.conradbock.org/psl-intro-ws-2.pdf intro to PSL03:35
bkeroSweet, I'm going to the engadget Holiday party03:50
kanzureWell this is an awkward time to wake up. Who the hell falls alseep for only an hour?06:05
gene_me06:06
gene_polyphasic sleepers06:06
bkeroPolyphasic sleep makes me feel like shit :/06:07
gene_you need more caffeine then06:10
bkeroI'll caffeine you.06:11
gene_ok06:11
* bkero caffeines gene.06:11
* bkero caffeines gene_.06:12
gene_caffeine isn't a verb, it's a way of life06:20
bkeroCaffien isn't a noun, it's a rhetoric.06:52
bkerohttp://www.lumus-optical.com/ [+]09:12
gene_WOW09:22
gene_wonder if it can do stereo09:22
gene_it's not even that dorky09:23
kanzure_http://arxiv.org/abs/0812.0644 "Natural selection relies on the first method, whereas a civilization, individual, or other singular subject must rely on the latter."15:00
kanzure_Ho ho ho, the individual is stupid.15:00
kanzure_http://groups.google.com/group/openmanufacturing-dev18:37
kanzure_Smari and others have been repeatedly requesting a development-only mailing list for a while now.18:37
kanzure_So, there we go.18:37
fennopenmanufacturing-nophilosophy18:46
fennopenmanufacturing-nihilist ;)18:47
kanzurenihilist?18:47
kanzurenophilo just sounds wrong :/18:47
kanzure I hate to create yet another mailing list though18:47
kanzurefor me this is my, what, 158th?18:48
fennnot a serious request, -dev is fine18:50
fenni doubt it will work though18:50
kanzure_http://heybryan.org/shots/2008-12-08_googlegroups_fail.png18:52
kanzure_*you* count the number of members there18:52
kanzure_and *you* tell me how many it says under "Group Info"18:52
kanzureholy crap I wasn't that far off when I said 158th19:19
kanzurehttp://heybryan.org/mailing_lists.html19:20
kanzure#87 is cheating because I didn't actually list out each of those19:20
kanzureso I'm far over 160..19:20
kanzure_http://www.fablab.af/ <- Afghanistan fablab19:30
kanzure_wiki now.19:31
fennlots of spam already http://scripts.mit.edu/~emu/work/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges19:36
fennand the redirect is super weird19:36
fenncan't get a real url19:36
wrldpclol what google group is that for?19:57
kanzure_?20:24
kanzure_What do you mean?20:24
kanzure_http://groups.google.com/group/openmanufacturing20:24
kanzure_http://groups.google.com/group/openmanufacturing-dev20:24
kanzureMSNBC had a news bit re: "NAVY FA-18 CRASHES IN CA." I turn my head for just a few moments and they switch it to "MARINE FA-18". hehe..20:56
kanzure_http://students4.autodesk.com/?nd=m_home&tagent=Q4FY09DEC5STUDENTREPBLOGS&lbon=1 20:58
kanzure_new updates20:58
kanzure_they call it 'Autodesk University 2008' and "just so happens" to be hosted in Las Vegas20:58
kanzure_http://www.scribd.com/doc/8299748/Giant-planets-ignition "http://www.scribd.com/doc/8299748/Giant-planets-ignition21:03
kanzure_erm21:03
kanzure_"The possibility of artificial initiation and fusion explosion of giants planets and other objects of Solar system"21:04
kanzureHi fenn_.21:08
kanzurefenn__: so the private emails with the afghani fablab have gone the wrong way21:31
kanzure"oh look I can make a design repository very easily just by putting files up .. look here!"21:31
kanzureand it's all unorganized and without metadata and without any explanation, that sort of thing21:31
kanzure"but it's just so **easy**!"21:32
kanzurewhat's the minimum thing I can do to stop them from going in the wrong direction?21:32
kanzure_"can someone make an auto-updating random-image kind of thing on the21:49
kanzure_site that takes flikr images tagged with "fablab" for the index page?"21:49
kanzure_That's not a bad idea.21:49
fenn___oh man look at my tail21:57
kanzureHey... good news. The WTA board is completely resigning22:01
kanzure_bah, Paul doesn't think a -dev list is a good idea22:03
kanzure_http://lists.debian.org/devel.html22:03

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