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| kanzure | " | 00:02 |
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| kanzure | For every GPLD'd CAD file that students bring in, the sponsors have agreed to donate 20 items of canned food to the local homeless shelters." | 00:02 |
| bkero | Awesome | 00:18 |
| bkero | kanzure: I have some flanges to donate. :P | 00:18 |
| * kanzure takes a leap of hope and tries Pro/Engineer. | 00:25 | |
| bkero | kanzure: Did you guys ever find some good VGA glasses? | 00:35 |
| bkero | I'm looking for something with better input than composite. :/ | 00:35 |
| kanzure | eyeport, but it's 320x240 or 280, and it's about $300 unless you find it on ebay where it runs at about $80 to $100 | 00:37 |
| procto | there's pretty much nothing good in that area that doesn't cost more than $1500 | 00:38 |
| procto | unless you're ok with horrible headaches | 00:38 |
| bkero | Looking at some Vuzix ones, they support VGA for aorund $350 | 00:38 |
| procto | in which case you'll be fine | 00:38 |
| bkero | My wearable computer parts showed up from digikey | 00:39 |
| bkero | By the middle of January I should have everything together, waiting on a set of glasses. | 00:39 |
| bkero | kanzure: not coming up with much on google for eyeport | 00:40 |
| kanzure | bkero: Search the logs, foo. | 00:41 |
| * bkero grumbles | 00:42 | |
| kanzure | procto, bkero: The real trick is finding something that is monocular. Using glasses doesn't count because then you block your own vision, or you're paying out the nose for something transparent. | 00:42 |
| bkero | Transmissive LCDs are sometimes OK with ambient lighting if you take the backlights off. | 00:43 |
| bkero | I see stuff on the eyetop | 00:44 |
| bkero | You mentioned an 'eyeport', but never a link | 00:44 |
| procto | you don't mean an eyetap? | 00:45 |
| bkero | Eyetap is a personal imaging lab, not a heads-up display. | 00:46 |
| procto | huh? | 00:46 |
| procto | it lets you inject information into your field of view | 00:47 |
| procto | sounds like a HUD to me | 00:47 |
| bkero | Ah | 00:47 |
| bkero | My bad, I was looking at something else | 00:47 |
| bkero | Doesn't look like they have a pair I can buy :/ | 00:47 |
| bkero | They want me to build a set, and I'm not sure that's in my league. | 00:48 |
| bkero | I don't mind a set of glasses with LCDs instead of beaming a HUD. I'm just looking for something VGA that accepts better input than composite. | 00:49 |
| kanzure | eyetap or eyetop, yes | 00:49 |
| bkero | The eyetop only has 320x480 resolution, which is too low for my terminal text :/ | 00:50 |
| bkero | *320x240 | 00:50 |
| kanzure | how is it a wearable if you have to always take it off (visors/glasses) | 00:52 |
| kanzure | lag is 15.62. Gahh. | 00:52 |
| bkero | Don't really have to take it off :P | 01:04 |
| bkero | Just get some with translucent LCDs that use ambient lighting, and with transparent peripherals | 01:05 |
| kanzure_ | http://www.mechmate.com/ <-- "The drawings used for producing our in-house MechMate CNC routers are published on this site, for free. The plans and information from this site can be used by small companies and persons to build "once-off" machines which may not be sold for profit." | 01:10 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/books/Manufacturing/mechmate.zip | 01:14 |
| fenn | eyetap = augmented reality HUD; eyetop = stupid marketing play off the name eyetap, but isnt actually an eyetap | 01:42 |
| gene | what's an eyetap and how much does it cose | 01:46 |
| gene | cost | 01:46 |
| fenn | i dont think you can buy one | 01:48 |
| kanzure_ | http://www.vrealities.com/eyetopcentra.html | 01:48 |
| fenn | eye TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP | 01:49 |
| fenn | http://eyetap.org/research/eyetap.html | 01:49 |
| gene | speaking of headmounted displays | 01:50 |
| gene | I saw one at sams the other day | 01:50 |
| fenn | oh i bet | 01:50 |
| gene | for $50, it's black and white | 01:51 |
| gene | but unfortunately comes with a radiocontrol toy that hooks up to it | 01:51 |
| gene | but someone figured out how to hack it | 01:51 |
| kanzure | wait wtf | 01:51 |
| kanzure | this was at Sams? | 01:51 |
| kanzure | was this the SpyCam? | 01:51 |
| gene | yup | 01:51 |
| gene | it was | 01:51 |
| kanzure | but the website says they stopped making it | 01:51 |
| kanzure | jflkak | 01:52 |
| kanzure | can you Google Maps link me the Sams please? | 01:52 |
| gene | this is a new version | 01:52 |
| kanzure | I don't care | 01:52 |
| gene | oh sure, if you want to drive all the way to Plano | 01:52 |
| kanzure | there's a Sams here | 01:52 |
| gene | I saw it in plano | 01:52 |
| kanzure | blah, just give me the name of it I guess | 01:52 |
| gene | http://www.google.com/search?q=spy+video+atv&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a | 01:54 |
| gene | spy video atv | 01:54 |
| gene | can't find replacement parts | 01:54 |
| gene | it was also on blackfriday | 01:54 |
| gene | could you figure out how to hook it up to a computer? | 01:54 |
| kanzure | yes | 01:55 |
| gene | how do you do that? | 01:55 |
| kanzure | well that depends I guess, the first thing that I would do is look at how many wires it is using | 01:55 |
| kanzure | and what type of connection it's using for the video display | 01:55 |
| kanzure | actually what I might do is just figure out the protocol for sending packets wirelessly to it | 01:56 |
| gene | 1 | 01:56 |
| kanzure | so ok, it's probably some standard video format | 01:56 |
| gene | ntsc or something like that | 01:56 |
| kanzure | well what's the wiring though, is it s-video? | 01:56 |
| kanzure | that's wrong, not s-video | 01:56 |
| gene | the video receiver is in the bulky controller | 01:56 |
| gene | dunno | 01:56 |
| gene | look up the guy who hacked it | 01:56 |
| kanzure | was on hackaday, I know. | 01:56 |
| kanzure | I see that amazon has a few of these for $120 | 01:56 |
| gene | yeah I think it is svideo | 01:57 |
| gene | you wouldn't want to send signals via the video receiver | 01:57 |
| gene | too much noise | 01:58 |
| gene | there is one thing I want to know about the vehicle though | 01:58 |
| gene | how the heck they get rid of the RFI from the motors | 01:58 |
| kanzure | well you would't send signals, you'd focus on the connector from the processor in the box to the headset. | 01:58 |
| gene | or if they even bother to do so | 01:58 |
| kanzure_ | http://www.warriorsofthe.net/ | 02:01 |
| gene | wonder if you could get it to display color by using an RGB LED and going through each color like in projectors | 02:02 |
| kanzure | gene, how would you qualify the supply of metal in the student machine shop | 02:12 |
| kanzure | the supply of free metal for anybody's use | 02:12 |
| kanzure | not much, a lot, they're practically giving it away, none, ? | 02:12 |
| gene | I don't know, I haven't really been there much | 02:13 |
| gene | I think I got unbanned like this week | 02:13 |
| gene | but they probably haven lot's of aluminum | 02:14 |
| gene | why do you ask? | 02:14 |
| gene | what are you trying to do? | 02:14 |
| kanzure | somebody is telling me that people are practically giving away free metal | 02:14 |
| kanzure | but from what I can tell this isn't true, it's still hard for me to do material procurement | 02:14 |
| gene | why do you want big hunks of metal? | 02:15 |
| gene | hmm... I might need some small hunks of metal | 02:15 |
| kanzure | I'm a big guy | 02:15 |
| kanzure | no reason in particular | 02:15 |
| kanzure | just imagining that if I wanted to sparodically implement, say, an exoskeleton project, or a LOX-fueled engine, or .. | 02:16 |
| gene | that's sort of why I want to build an ECM mill | 02:16 |
| gene | though I have been talking with the reprap guys and they say that EDM wouldn't be too hard to do either | 02:17 |
| gene | you'd need lot's of metal | 02:17 |
| gene | I can help with that | 02:17 |
| gene | just only on saturday | 02:17 |
| kanzure_ | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180312946908&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 Complete Machine Shop { Antique & Later Models } | 02:28 |
| kanzure_ | $8k | 02:28 |
| wrldpc__ | POWER | 05:02 |
| kanzure_ | "That's one powerful feedback loop. A machine which automatically makes coffee, which powers the programmers who write the code for a machine which automatically makes coffee..." | 05:28 |
| kanzure_ | http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/08/12/10/1838233.shtml | 05:28 |
| kanzure_ | "open source coffee machine" | 05:28 |
| kanzure | wtf | 06:20 |
| -!- kanzure_-_ is now known as kanzure_- | 06:26 | |
| kanzure_ | http://mfoundation.org/ has a new look. They look dangerous now. | 15:23 |
| kanzure | Also, the WTA board of directors has resigned, there's an opening for the director. Not sure anybody can open up that organization though.. | 15:25 |
| bkero | WTA? | 15:41 |
| kanzure | World Transhumanist Association? | 15:46 |
| kanzure | nevermind | 15:46 |
| bkero | Ah | 16:12 |
| kanzure | Woah. operapluginwrapper is a weird thing. I just killed three instances of it, and suddenly five different mplayer instances begin working, ProE starts installing, and a thousand other things. | 16:19 |
| bkero | Probably locking resources | 16:28 |
| kanzure_ | http://blog.longnow.org/2008/11/18/drew-endy-jim-thomas-synthetic-biology-debate/ | 17:00 |
| kanzure_ | http://fora.tv/media/rss/Long_Now_Podcasts/podcast-2008-11-17-synth-bio-debate.mp3 | 17:00 |
| kanzure_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq06iJXrDu4 the GitS origami episode/story-thingy. | 17:00 |
| fenn | that scene is way more critical to the plot than i thought the first time i saw it | 17:07 |
| kanzure_- | http://fablab.af/posters.zip | 18:53 |
| kanzure_- | "DARPA has tested hypersonic parachutes." | 19:05 |
| * procto is testing his gelbox design at the SETC fablab tonight | 19:35 | |
| wrldpc | nice! | 20:03 |
| -!- Irssi: #hplusroadmap: Total of 17 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] | 20:04 | |
| kanzure_- | procto, btw, there's been recent talk on the gmx mailing list about gel box simulation | 21:18 |
| kanzure_- | http://www.gromacs.org/mailing_lists/users.php | 21:19 |
| kanzure_- | http://www.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users | 21:19 |
| kanzure_- | http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Membrane_Simulations | 21:19 |
| procto | invitrogen's Vector NTI does gel simulation | 21:22 |
| kanzure2 | fenn, I'm thinking of doing http://heybryan.org/books/Manufacturing/mechmate.zip | 22:39 |
| kanzure2 | but I'm looking over it and these don't really seem like a good set of documents | 22:40 |
| kanzure2 | modeling it, I mean | 22:40 |
| kanzure2 | I'm having trouble keeping track of when they mean to start a new part and when they mean that it's a different view of the last part from a previous page | 22:43 |
| kanzure2 | blah.. | 22:43 |
| kanzure2 | What an obscure numbering system. | 22:51 |
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