| --- Day changed Wed Dec 24 2008 | ||
| kanzure_ | http://arxiv.org/abs/0806.3792 using heart-lung machines to oxygenate the blood to allow for humans in space without space-suits | 00:22 |
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| kanzure_ | blah, I really should start publishing to arxiv | 00:23 |
| kanzure_ | it's easy to get stuff up on there | 00:23 |
| kanzure_ | well this is depressing | 02:32 |
| kanzure_ | as part of VOICED, there's a subproject called functionCAD with a download that I've used a few times before | 02:32 |
| kanzure_ | if you search for that you get http://cba.mit.edu/~neilg/fab/dist/function.cad | 02:33 |
| kanzure_ | http://function.device.mst.edu:16080/FunctionCAD/ <- is the real one. | 02:33 |
| kanzure_ | hm, glad that Wikipedia has a good article on the long tail. Now it needs a proper synthesis page about long tails and the long now foundation | 02:56 |
| kanzure_ | and the conspiracy connections with Stu Brand :-) and 1968 | 02:56 |
| kanzure_ | http://www.singinst.org/blog/2008/12/07/call-for-papers-technological-singularity-and-acceleration-studies/ | 03:28 |
| gene | what's function cad | 03:56 |
| gene | blood oxygenator for space without the suit is cool | 03:56 |
| gene | did you see that guy's other papers? | 03:56 |
| gene | oil pipelines in the sky? | 03:57 |
| kanzure_ | link? | 04:08 |
| kanzure_ | functioncad is just a way of playing with the VOICED ontology in a GUI environment for linking up nodes together | 04:09 |
| ybit | agreed, liking the heart-lung machines paper :) | 04:09 |
| kanzure_ | silly me, I always thought it was the vacuum that posed the most problem | 04:53 |
| kanzure_ | besides the lung dysfunctionalism | 04:53 |
| kanzure_ | http://grimm.blackmage.org/lockdown/music/Mind.In.A.Box%20-%20Dreamweb/ | 05:04 |
| gene | http://arxiv.org/find/physics/1/au:+Bolonkin_A/0/1/0/all/0/1 | 05:33 |
| gene | some of these papers might be useful for sea steading | 05:33 |
| gene | http://arxiv.org/abs/0812.0588 | 05:34 |
| gene | here's the pipeline | 05:34 |
| kanzure_ | http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-rdf-concepts-20040210/#dfn-URI-reference | 05:59 |
| kanzure_ | I suspect I'm missing something about RDF URI references that I should know more about | 05:59 |
| kanzure_ | does RFC2396 mean that I can have URI refs in XMLized PSL to other local files in the dot skdb package? assume recipe.psl file local to the package contents. | 06:00 |
| kanzure_ | http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-syntax-grammar/#example16 | 06:01 |
| kanzure_ | "Example 16 shows abbreviating the node RDF URI reference of http://example.org/here/#snack using an xml:base of http://example.org/here/ and an rdf:ID on the rdf:Description node element. The object node of the ex:prop predicate is an absolute RDF URI reference resolved from the rdf:resource XML attribute value using the in-scope base URI to give the RDF URI reference http://example.org/here/fruit/apple." | 06:01 |
| kanzure_ | http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-tiprdfai.html | 06:02 |
| kanzure_ | <rdf:Description rdf:ID="local-record"> | 06:02 |
| kanzure_ | "RDF/XML does not mandate any base URI determination process for parsed RDF documents." hrm, I guess that's a good thing for us | 06:03 |
| kanzure_ | fenn: check my work? | 06:05 |
| kanzure_ | http://iandavis.com/blog/2007/11/its-ok-to-use-uris-with-fragments-in-rdf | 06:31 |
| kanzure_ | http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:r6ayQFWnuZcJ:dylan.beadle.name/blog/2004/11/are-rdf-uri-references-ugly.html+RDF+URI&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=43&gl=us&client=opera <- more informative | 06:32 |
| kanzure_ | http://simonster.com/mt/archives/000039.html "Where RDF falls short: URIs, local files, and the structure of everything" | 06:34 |
| kanzure_ | "Where URIs don't cut it, however, is when resources don't reside on the World Wide Web, but in a private data store." | 06:35 |
| kanzure_ | "While some RDF parsers will automatically assume any URI missing a scheme references a relative path, the RDF specification does not require this behavior. " | 06:36 |
| kanzure_ | "They also feel that 'trans' is misleading, as they believe that their species was fixed in their brains, and has never changed. Thus that nothing about their steps in correcting themselves is actually "trans" at all, but rather they are simply taking steps to assert what they feel that they are already." | 14:49 |
| kanzure_ | " | 15:32 |
| kanzure_ | I love it. But I was curious to see Ian Jackson, dpkg developer, say in this interview [debianplanet.org] that he didn't think apt was so hot. Clearly Ian has a better perspective than I do. Can someone explain Ian's perspective? I don't really understand his objections very well." | 15:32 |
| kanzure_ | http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=735 | 15:33 |
| kanzure_ | http://web.archive.org/web/20061017190133/http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=735 | 15:35 |
| kanzure_ | "When I first joined the project, dpkg was a very evil shell script that was little moroe than a placeholder. I wrote dpkg v2, a Perl script, because it was the thing that needed writing next. " | 15:36 |
| kanzure_ | "Around the introduction of the C version, the format was changed from the old `two lines of text and two gzipped tarfiles'." | 15:36 |
| kanzure_ | " | 15:40 |
| kanzure_ | Also, Debian has too many developers and not enough really good developers. Many of Debian's current decision processes work on a kind of inertia basis: it's really hard to get anything to happen (become a maintainer, fix a process problem, get a recalcitrant maintainer to fix a bug, ...) and the way we prevent bad things happening is by just making it too much hard work to do anything serious at all." | 15:40 |
| kanzure_ | http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=35937&cid=3879354 | 15:43 |
| kanzure_ | http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass_pr.html "Covers the history of submarine cables from Lord Kelvin to present." | 16:11 |
| kanzure_ | huh, written by Neal Stephenson. | 16:12 |
| kanzure_ | oh, it's ancient | 16:20 |
| kanzure_ | http://pastebin.com/m4cbc7124 line 69: c | 17:02 |
| kanzure_ | onflicts with previous declaration '<typeprefixerror>abs' | 17:02 |
| kanzure_ | Also, "error: abs was not declared in this scope" | 17:02 |
| kanzure_ | but, clearly, the cmath header is specified. | 17:02 |
| kanzure_ | This doesn't even look like a proper distance function. absolute value of (x1-x2 + absolute value of (y1-y2)) | 17:04 |
| kanzure_ | ah, the next function is proper distance. Manhattan distance must be something cooky. | 17:05 |
| gene | yeah that stephenson one is real famous | 17:06 |
| kanzure_ | "Because of CVS being the most idiotic VCS on the planet, we are doing several merges to add all my summer stuff. All these intermediate merges probably will not compile." <--- gee. | 17:06 |
| kanzure_ | go figure. | 17:06 |
| * kanzure_ finds somebody to yell at | 17:07 | |
| gene | what's a VCS | 17:07 |
| gene | that sounds a bit like trolling to me | 17:07 |
| kanzure_ | VCS = version control system | 17:07 |
| kanzure_ | the quote is from the pastebin link | 17:07 |
| kanzure_ | which is from the functionCAD sources. | 17:07 |
| kanzure_ | well, presumably the versions compiled for Windows and Mac are using the more complete version that, uh, compiles | 17:08 |
| kanzure_ | so why would they give out defective code | 17:08 |
| kanzure_ | but anyway, I don't see why abs() isn't defined in a namespace- given that the header is included. | 17:08 |
| kanzure_ | oh, I wonder if abs is in std:: | 17:09 |
| kanzure_ | yay | 17:10 |
| gene | why? | 17:12 |
| gene | do you know what qcad is? | 17:12 |
| gene | It's 2d drafting software that is free for linux, but not for windows | 17:13 |
| kanzure_ | are you sure about that? | 17:13 |
| kanzure_ | maybe they don't compile it for you, is that what you mean? | 17:13 |
| gene | yup that is the case | 17:22 |
| gene | it's open source and they sell it | 17:23 |
| gene | http://www.physorg.com/news149276015.html | 17:31 |
| gene | might be useful | 17:31 |
| * kanzure_ wonders where to send his functioncad patches | 17:32 | |
| kanzure_ | whats with the physorg news IDs anyway? | 17:33 |
| kanzure_ | they don't have that many articles, do they? | 17:33 |
| gene | they have a lot | 17:38 |
| gene | but not that many | 17:38 |
| kanzure_ | hrm, I messed up on my patch I think | 17:39 |
| kanzure_ | I had -- point.cpp.original as the first few characters | 17:40 |
| kanzure_ | this is supposed to be point.cpp, and the other one should be point.cpp.new or something (or really, I was just keeping the file names separate because I'm not in a version controlled environnment (because I'm being stupid)) | 17:40 |
| kanzure_ | http://voiced.device.mst.edu/groups/voiced/weblog/fe113/images/fc0b6.png#1683x1068 | 17:50 |
| kanzure_ | that's a pretty good idea of what functioncad is about | 17:50 |
| gene | guess what I'm doing right now kanzure? | 18:06 |
| gene | I'm burning a UBUNTU boot disk | 18:06 |
| gene | the disk is burnt | 18:09 |
| gene | pardon me while I reboot | 18:11 |
| kanzure_ | about time. | 18:13 |
| drazak | heh | 18:18 |
| -!- Charlie is now known as gene | 18:54 | |
| -!- gene is now known as genehacher | 18:54 | |
| genehacher | so kanzure, how do I partition disk | 18:55 |
| genehacher | *partition a disj | 18:57 |
| genehacher | **disk | 18:57 |
| kanzure_ | genehacher: Ubuntu has some tools to do it. | 19:06 |
| kanzure_ | http://wubi-installer.org/ | 19:08 |
| kanzure_ | hrm, wait | 19:09 |
| kanzure_ | wait, yes. okay. go ahead with wubi. | 19:10 |
| * kanzure_ was unfamiliar with the "let's not create a new partition"-idea. | 19:10 | |
| kanzure_ | genehacher: wubi is also on the ubuntu live cd. don't know if that helps. | 19:10 |
| kanzure_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qdXkJVQUfM | 19:45 |
| kanzure_ | ah neat, "Newton" | 19:45 |
| kanzure_ | Eric linked to this; I first saw it at the Austin Robot Group | 19:46 |
| kanzure_ | brilliant ad. | 19:46 |
| genehacher | are you there kanzure? | 19:55 |
| genehacher | ok I have two partition options guided with suboption SCSI1 and manual | 19:58 |
| genehacher | what do I do? | 19:58 |
| genehacher | ??? | 20:04 |
| genehacher | whoa glcells looks cool I'm hooked on ubuntu | 20:07 |
| kanzure_ | you should do guided | 20:35 |
| kanzure_ | SCSI is the successor to IDE. | 20:36 |
| kanzure_ | and maybe cohort to SATA. | 20:36 |
| genehacher | guided is 100% disk | 20:51 |
| -!- genehacher is now known as clonedgene | 20:51 | |
| kanzure_ | clonedgene: did you stop it? | 20:52 |
| kanzure_ | clonedgene: btw, you should be able to access the internet from the live disc .. | 20:53 |
| gene | yeah I stopped | 20:53 |
| gene | I was able to | 20:54 |
| gene | guided uses 100% disk space though | 20:54 |
| gene | I still want to be able to go back to the quad colored flag every now and then | 20:54 |
| gene | are you still there | 20:56 |
| gene | I can access the internet, but I don't have chatzilla in ubuntu | 20:56 |
| kanzure_ | git clone | 20:57 |
| kanzure_ | git://repository.desktop.umr.edu/Network/Servers/function1.basiceng.umr.edu/Users/klpwdf/repositories/FunctionCAD | 20:57 |
| kanzure_ | gene: then get the plugin/extension | 20:57 |
| kanzure_ | for firefox. it's like a one-click installation. | 20:57 |
| kanzure_ | anyway, try the manual version. | 20:58 |
| gene_ | well another thing is that the wireless internet at my house uses a long encryption key that is rather hard to transfer | 21:24 |
| clonedgene | well I'm about to have a go at it | 21:25 |
| clonedgene | checking disk for integrity | 21:33 |
| clonedgene | disk is ok | 21:35 |
| clonedgene | installation is go | 21:37 |
| clonedgene | oh shoot forgot to backup | 21:43 |
| kanzure_ | .. | 21:47 |
| kanzure_ | so, I totally forgot that the conventional stove is spiraled. | 21:48 |
| clonedgene | ??? | 21:48 |
| clonedgene | the conventional stove? | 21:49 |
| clonedgene | btw kanzure know any good automatic backup applications | 22:01 |
| kanzure_ | in linux, you can do rsync on a cron entry | 22:07 |
| kanzure_ | apt-cache search backup | 22:07 |
| kanzure_ | does anybody know the IP of my lab machine? | 23:16 |
| clonedgene | yeah 127.0.0.1 | 23:58 |
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