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| genehacker | well I would do it if it worked | 00:02 |
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| genehacker | jeez, I don't know what excuse I can have for shaving my head | 00:05 |
| kanzure3 | cancer | 00:05 |
| genehacker | yeah then I have to have to learn all about cancer so I can keep my stories straight | 00:06 |
| kanzure | hm, I need to hunt down Osaka, Kitamura and Mizoguchi [5,31] | 00:06 |
| genehacker | yes I would | 00:08 |
| genehacker | I want to get a brain implant as soon as they're safe | 00:09 |
| genehacker | I want to get a brain implant as soon as they're safe | 00:09 |
| genehacker | oops | 00:09 |
| genehacker | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcranial_direct_current_stimulation | 00:19 |
| genehacker | hmmmm.... induces noticeable psychological changes, I might want to read up on what exactly those were | 00:19 |
| genehacker | hmmm... 10-30 minutes of stimulation is good for five hours | 00:30 |
| kanzure | have we talked about RoBlock in here before? | 00:32 |
| genehacker | no | 00:35 |
| genehacker | wait yes | 00:35 |
| genehacker | I think so | 00:35 |
| genehacker | where's the right orbita? | 00:37 |
| kanzure | What? | 00:37 |
| genehacker | In the | 00:38 |
| genehacker | first experiment, different electrode positions were tested to find the | 00:38 |
| genehacker | optimal positions for DC stimulation. In the subsequent experiments, | 00:38 |
| genehacker | the optimal electrode arrangement (motor cortex—forehead above | 00:38 |
| genehacker | the contralateral orbita), | 00:38 |
| kanzure | rawr, this is why I was working on a 3D model viewer of the brain last year | 00:39 |
| kanzure | I wanted to tag regions with the many different names that they are given just for this purpose.. | 00:39 |
| kanzure | "show me teh cerebellums!" | 00:39 |
| genehacker | well guess what? | 00:39 |
| genehacker | you get to learn all about regions of the brain in pyschology, or at least the names of them | 00:40 |
| kanzure | no you don't, I've been through psych | 00:41 |
| genehacker | oh | 00:41 |
| genehacker | that's what one my friends said | 00:41 |
| kanzure | I learned more about the brain going through ontology lists than I have ever in all of my years in psych classes | 00:41 |
| kanzure | blah, don't listen to them | 00:41 |
| kanzure | hold on a sec. | 00:41 |
| kanzure | aww crap | 00:41 |
| fenn | genehacker: sponge+salt water electrodes | 00:41 |
| kanzure | well, if I was on my laptop, | 00:41 |
| genehacker | that is what it is fenn | 00:41 |
| kanzure | I have this huge section of my bookmarks for structures of the brain | 00:41 |
| kanzure | it lists >200 regions | 00:42 |
| kanzure | (only about ~12 are ever mentioned in psych classes..) | 00:42 |
| genehacker | heck that's practically what the commercial unit is | 00:42 |
| genehacker | I just don't want to shave my head | 00:42 |
| fenn | i dont think you need to shave anything | 00:43 |
| genehacker | the electrodes are 35 cm sq | 00:44 |
| fenn | 3.5cm radius is not terribly large | 00:44 |
| kanzure3 | http://www.sisostds.org/ simulation interoperability standards organization | 00:45 |
| kanzure3 | what is a base object model (BOM) and how is it not a Bill of Materials (BOM)? | 00:45 |
| kanzure3 | http://www.simventions.com/boms/ | 00:46 |
| fenn | god that paper would be so much less annoying if they called things "interface" instead of "port" | 00:46 |
| fenn | but then i guess they wouldn't have anything because it'd be so obvious | 00:47 |
| fenn | is this part of the basis for design repo silliness? | 00:48 |
| fenn | i havent read the phrase 'mechanical flow' anywhere else (no gene, it's not anything like optic flow) | 00:48 |
| kanzure | what? | 00:48 |
| kanzure | oh | 00:48 |
| kanzure | this is just me googling around for legos+interoperability | 00:49 |
| kanzure | but it turns out that that 'port ontology' paper was cited by a paper by Tolga, the guy that I sort of replace at ADL. | 00:49 |
| kanzure | (via the "citations" Google link..) | 00:49 |
| kanzure | erm, "cited by" link. | 00:49 |
| genehacker | hmmmm... this paper on tDCS had a sample size of 19 | 00:50 |
| kanzure | ew, the port-ontology paper just turns into "tag it with lego-circular-shape" | 00:52 |
| kanzure | page 208 (pg 3), where the Kitamura and Mizoguchi paragraph is located, is what I found the more interesting | 00:55 |
| kanzure | in their paper, they separate objects that "augment the value of feedstock" versus the 'conduits' which try to maintain the value as much as possible (conduits being the "glue" between an output port and an input port somewhere) - 'stasis' | 00:56 |
| kanzure | but all of these 'ontologies' suck immensely and are the wrong approach | 00:56 |
| kanzure | (another aspect of their paper was "a functional way", so as to separate POV of different actors entering information..) | 00:56 |
| kanzure | hm | 01:01 |
| kanzure | my rebel spies inform me that this would totally be the time to make suggestions for rebranding and restructuring of the Singularity Institute | 01:01 |
| genehacker | http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00757497 | 01:03 |
| genehacker | This study will test whether transcranial direct current stimulation (TDCS) can be used safely in children with schizophrenia and if it can improve memory and attention span or auditory hallucinations in these children, at least temporarily. TDCS has temporarily improved memory and attention span in healthy adults and a similar method called TMS has relieved auditory hallucinations in adults... | 01:04 |
| genehacker | ...with schizophrenia. | 01:04 |
| genehacker | ;) | 01:04 |
| genehacker | improved attention span with electricity to the head | 01:04 |
| kanzure | for "improved attention span", please see- | 01:05 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/Sustained_attention | 01:05 |
| fenn | improved auditory hallucinations | 01:08 |
| fenn | does it come with bluetooth? | 01:08 |
| genehacker | speaking of that | 01:13 |
| genehacker | fenn, ever watched ghost in the shell? | 01:13 |
| fenn | certainly | 01:13 |
| genehacker | well you know how they all talked without talking? | 01:13 |
| genehacker | we have the technology to do that | 01:13 |
| fenn | the electrodes you put on your neck? | 01:14 |
| kanzure | subvocalization cheap trickery? :/ | 01:14 |
| genehacker | no, a throat microphone | 01:14 |
| fenn | throat microphone doesn't count | 01:14 |
| genehacker | http://www.clearercom.com/ | 01:14 |
| genehacker | it's close enough | 01:14 |
| fenn | bah | 01:15 |
| genehacker | saw one at an outdoor store the other day designed for use by hunters | 01:15 |
| genehacker | of course it was in the bargain bin... | 01:16 |
| fenn | " An electrode implanted in the patient's brain made it possible for the patient to produce vowels by thinking them, using a speech synthesizer" | 01:16 |
| fenn | that's a bit more invasive than i'm thinking | 01:16 |
| genehacker | oh yeah I remember that one | 01:16 |
| kanzure | sufficiently invasive to grab my attention | 01:16 |
| fenn | this was a throat cuff with an array of like 16 electrodes over the trachea | 01:16 |
| fenn | it was mentioned in this channel a while ago | 01:17 |
| kanzure | was it the one about the browser? | 01:17 |
| fenn | oh wait maybe they were using it to drive a wheelchair or something | 01:17 |
| genehacker | though we really need something like in GITS people talking on the phone can be quite annoying | 01:17 |
| fenn | i'd rather text-based communication became more prevalet | 01:18 |
| kanzure | I shouldn't be thinking at this hour of the night | 01:20 |
| kanzure | but should I implement my command line interoperability stuff? | 01:20 |
| kanzure | it'll work, but I'm not convinced that it is analogous to the skdb stuff any mroe | 01:20 |
| kanzure | *more | 01:20 |
| genehacker | hey kanzure, they got parkour training by the tower at 10 in the morning | 01:21 |
| kanzure | parkour? | 01:21 |
| kanzure | I'm already booked | 01:21 |
| kanzure | my comp sci teacher from 2005 is paying me a visit :) | 01:21 |
| genehacker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jquXcwooV6A | 01:21 |
| genehacker | ah fun | 01:22 |
| genehacker | when I took compsci, my teacher got fired for mysterious reasons | 01:22 |
| fenn | reminds me of "mystic arts of the ninja" | 01:22 |
| genehacker | he was a really cool guy too, gave out copies of certain softwarez | 01:23 |
| genehacker | ended up learning about how to play flashgames and write html code the rest of the year instead of CNC machining or other fun stuff | 01:24 |
| kanzure | "html code" | 01:24 |
| kanzure | orly | 01:24 |
| fenn | it's about as much of a programming language as g-code | 01:25 |
| genehacker | yeah | 01:25 |
| genehacker | though I forgot most of it | 01:25 |
| genehacker | hmmm... what's cognitive safety? | 01:25 |
| genehacker | I'll I can find is weird how to manage people bs | 01:26 |
| genehacker | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10-20_system_(EEG) | 01:27 |
| genehacker | how's that for a brain model kanzure? | 01:28 |
| genehacker | standardized eeg placement locations, also used in placement of TMS | 01:28 |
| genehacker | http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/fulltext/112702866/PDFSTART | 01:35 |
| genehacker | according to standard attention measuring tests, tDCS resulted in a 40-60% improvement above baseline | 01:36 |
| genehacker | n = 18 | 01:38 |
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| kanzure3 | http://ejohn.org/blog/ocr-and-neural-nets-in-javascript/ | 11:40 |
| kanzure3 | Heh. GreaseMonkey userscript (javascript) OCR for solving Megaupload captchas. | 11:40 |
| kanzure3 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN60Ob5x7f0 Autodesk Labs Project Draw | 11:43 |
| kanzure3 | http://draw.labs.autodesk.com/ADDraw/draw.html | 11:43 |
| kanzure3 | 2D AJAX diagramming thingy. | 11:43 |
| kanzure3 | I wonder if they are interested in doing 2D CAD nonsense in the browser? | 11:43 |
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| kanzure3 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgBgmw-2U8c NASA ISS tour | 13:36 |
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| kanzure | Hi Sam. | 16:22 |
| kanzure | I think your proposal to only keep the drupal-enabled site as a 'showcase' fell on deaf ears ('cept me :-)) | 16:22 |
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| kanzure | hm, MIT used to have a project called "LEGO Constructopedia" | 16:44 |
| kanzure3 | http://heybryan.org/books/Manufacturing/Designing%20effective%20step-by-step%20assembly%20instructions.pdf designing effective step-by-step assembly instructions | 16:53 |
| kanzure3 | in that paper, they use a "planner" to figure out a good sequence for assembling some given object from multiple parts | 16:53 |
| kanzure3 | I'm pretty sure s/planner/wizard/ (in terms of what we've called it before) is sufficient | 16:53 |
| kanzure | hahah! | 17:01 |
| kanzure | designosaur | 17:01 |
| kanzure3 | computer-aided tool selection <-- another buzzword | 17:27 |
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| kanzure | Why do USB male/female adapters not look like IEEE 1394 adapters? | 17:51 |
| kanzure3 | http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/ pg 76 of the USB 3.0 spec has the diagrams. | 18:02 |
| kanzure | anyway, for interop purposes, just include a "USB" part in the assembly - screw tagging. USB doesn't look like 1394 because it's all based off of typical part mating.. | 18:05 |
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| ppk | bryan have you seen the scribd diybio section? | 18:12 |
| kanzure | Not yet, no. How much is there? | 18:13 |
| ppk | not much | 18:13 |
| ppk | I don't know much about it either | 18:13 |
| ppk | beyond that it's supposed to be a more accessible alternative to your git repository | 18:13 |
| ppk | diybio has 70 gigs of scientific papers to distribute | 18:14 |
| ppk | we should be able to parse them all somehow | 18:14 |
| kanzure | I sent a hard drive up to them. | 18:14 |
| kanzure | Actually, I sent it up to the fablab people. Go ask the Boston Fab Lab for my hard drive and get a copy. | 18:15 |
| ppk | yeah I was in somerville on wednesday | 18:15 |
| kanzure | hm? | 18:15 |
| kanzure | were they handing out copies? | 18:15 |
| ppk | no | 18:15 |
| ppk | but we did talk about finding a way to easily distribute the papers | 18:15 |
| ppk | in a way that won't get people in trouble | 18:15 |
| kanzure | torrents. | 18:15 |
| ppk | but is also very easy | 18:15 |
| kanzure | debtorrents, etc. | 18:15 |
| ppk | and keeps the papers parsable | 18:16 |
| kanzure | Alec has been mentioning that he is cooking something up. | 18:16 |
| kanzure | well, part of the problem is that most PDFs suck anyway | 18:16 |
| kanzure | and are just image scans | 18:16 |
| ppk | yeah | 18:16 |
| kanzure | the Science Commons folks have prodded me in the past for some thoughts on image segmentation algorithms | 18:16 |
| ppk | I agree | 18:16 |
| kanzure | to separate graphs, figures, etc., from the text | 18:16 |
| ppk | yeah | 18:16 |
| ppk | well I'm checking out scribd now | 18:17 |
| kanzure | imagine a simple script: ./image-segment my.pdf and out pops fig1.png, fig2.png, fig3.png | 18:17 |
| ppk | it has mac's attention for some reason | 18:17 |
| ppk | http://www.scribd.com/group/66598-diybio | 18:17 |
| ppk | and ywah that would be an awesome script | 18:17 |
| kanzure | I only see a handful of papers there .. 6 | 18:18 |
| kanzure | whereas I mailed 120,000 to Boston :p | 18:18 |
| ppk | right | 18:18 |
| kanzure | get to work! :) | 18:18 |
| ppk | this scribd doesn't seem much better than torrents | 18:18 |
| kanzure | seems worse to me, IMHO | 18:18 |
| ppk | papers aren't parsable here either | 18:18 |
| kanzure | bad experience loading the pages too | 18:18 |
| ppk | personally I would just make a private tracker | 18:18 |
| kanzure | nothing wrong with torrents | 18:18 |
| kanzure | right | 18:19 |
| kanzure | I'd host it, but my upload speed is shit | 18:19 |
| kanzure | I mean, a tracker doesn't need to have a high upload speed | 18:19 |
| kanzure | but it helps | 18:19 |
| ppk | especially when you're distributing papers | 18:19 |
| kanzure | superseed mode I guess | 18:19 |
| ppk | seedboxes aren't super expensive | 18:20 |
| ppk | and I'm willing to seed a copy of my own | 18:20 |
| kanzure | that's right, there's a few sites now that let you pay a bit for 'em | 18:20 |
| kanzure | you should go bring an external hard drive with you and go track down whoever currently has a copy of the hdd that I sent up there :) | 18:20 |
| kanzure | it will take maybe 8 hours to copy over | 18:20 |
| ppk | mac cowell has it | 18:20 |
| kanzure | oh goodie | 18:20 |
| kanzure | didn't know. | 18:21 |
| ppk | well when he presented this problem the first thing I said was use a private tracker | 18:21 |
| ppk | but it needs to be easily searchable | 18:21 |
| ppk | so I need to find a way to automate 'uploading' the torrents | 18:21 |
| ppk | nobody will do 120k by hand | 18:22 |
| kanzure | what? | 18:22 |
| kanzure | oh, so you don't want a super-massive 70 GB torrent? | 18:22 |
| ppk | unless you wanted to throw all the papers in one torrent | 18:22 |
| kanzure | well that'd be a good start | 18:22 |
| ppk | right, I think that would be cumbersome | 18:22 |
| ppk | but, it's easy | 18:22 |
| kanzure | anyway, it was my understanding that there are some shell utilities to do torrent packaging | 18:22 |
| kanzure | and if so, that just means one would have to split the directory index into sections of, say, 10k papers | 18:23 |
| kanzure | which again is a task fit for a shell script | 18:23 |
| ppk | that would be more manageable | 18:23 |
| ppk | perhaps people would be willing to download the entire torrent if they were granulated small enough | 18:24 |
| kanzure | ppk, I suspect that people would be interested in downloading it regardless | 18:24 |
| kanzure | there's an amazing super awesome nerd factor in knowing that you have downloaded the entirety of Nature | 18:24 |
| ppk | yeah | 18:24 |
| ppk | well, here's hoping | 18:24 |
| ppk | I didn't know that Mac got the papers from you | 18:25 |
| kanzure3 | Port-Compatibility and Connectability Based Assembly Design | 18:25 |
| kanzure3 | J. Comput. Inf. Sci. Eng. -- September 2004 -- Volume 4, Issue 3, 197 (9 pages) | 18:25 |
| kanzure3 | DOI:10.1115/1.1779659 | 18:25 |
| kanzure3 | is anyone able to get this? | 18:25 |
| kanzure | yeah, I didn't know he got them from me either | 18:25 |
| kanzure | I was expecting it to circulate around up there, glad it got to the diybio folks. | 18:25 |
| ppk | are you familiar with what.cd? | 18:26 |
| kanzure | no, but a friend of mine used to be a big member | 18:26 |
| kanzure | something about interviews for entry :) | 18:26 |
| ppk | it's the best/most popular music torrent site | 18:27 |
| kanzure | didn't it die? | 18:27 |
| ppk | I'd like to do something similar for diybio | 18:27 |
| ppk | albeit less elitist | 18:27 |
| ppk | very much alive | 18:27 |
| ppk | have an invite only community - that way you can minimize leechers and people trying to stop the distribution of papers | 18:28 |
| kanzure3 | http://heybryan.org/books/Manufacturing/Port-compatibility%20and%20connectability%20based%20assembly%20design.pdf | 18:30 |
| * kanzure3 had to ssh in as a professor to get that.. | 18:30 | |
| ppk | lol | 18:31 |
| ppk | have you heard of tom knight's ftp? | 18:31 |
| kanzure | No? | 18:31 |
| kanzure | gimme gimme gimme | 18:31 |
| ppk | he has an ftp with a user/pass he unwittingly gives to people | 18:32 |
| ppk | wink wink nudge nudge | 18:32 |
| ppk | I forget the user/pass, I'm sure Mac has it though | 18:32 |
| kanzure | what's the server? | 18:32 |
| ppk | someone mentioned it when we were talking about distributing the papers | 18:33 |
| ppk | dunno | 18:33 |
| ppk | but supposedly it has a lot of papers on it | 18:33 |
| kanzure | hopefully not as much as me :-) | 18:33 |
| kanzure | I might have to go beat my own record | 18:33 |
| ppk | heh | 18:33 |
| ppk | well | 18:33 |
| kanzure | I was attempting to do a total rip of ScienceDirect last year, | 18:33 |
| ppk | my terabyte can't come soon enough | 18:33 |
| kanzure | but I didn't bother when I realized how much I hate their site | 18:33 |
| ppk | mmm | 18:34 |
| ppk | dinner, bbl | 18:34 |
| kanzure3 | http://www.part-solutions.com/index_main.asp | 18:40 |
| fenn | gee i wish i could make money selling part-solutions | 18:45 |
| kanzure3 | the paper that I last linked to has a description of their service on page 2 | 18:45 |
| fenn | a catalog of things that almost work? | 18:45 |
| kanzure3 | they seem to provide a 'configuration model' that complements some CAD data | 18:45 |
| kanzure3 | but I'm unable to determine if it's just physical/mechanical connections, or if they are magically doing something more | 18:46 |
| kanzure3 | 'configuration model' is a terrible name. The paper says that their configuration model consists of 'connection points'- what does that have to do with configuration? | 18:47 |
| kanzure3 | guess it's sorta related in a hack-eyed way.. | 18:47 |
| fenn | they're wrong about lego, most lego instructions use action diagrams | 18:57 |
| kanzure | pg 6 gets interesting | 18:57 |
| kanzure | between 2 and 6 I must have been on Mars | 18:57 |
| fenn | wow this paper is quite old | 19:02 |
| kanzure | 2004? | 19:02 |
| fenn | ... ok nevermind | 19:03 |
| fenn | they were running stuff on a 500MHz SGI workstation | 19:03 |
| kanzure | that's about my 1998 box (the server) | 19:04 |
| fenn | well, that's a very cool paper, i hope something Free comes along eventually | 19:06 |
| kanzure | hrm. so it turns out that they don't really go into detail about 'working principle' (applied forces, etc.) | 19:06 |
| kanzure | 'permissible forces, torques, etc.' | 19:07 |
| fenn | no it's all geometry | 19:07 |
| fenn | "permissible forces" would require arduous FEA at each step or proposed step | 19:08 |
| kanzure | wouldn't that be specified by the designer though? | 19:08 |
| fenn | uh, i dunno? | 19:08 |
| kanzure | the previous two sections before that were talking about labels | 19:08 |
| kanzure | which would be manually typed in, presumably | 19:08 |
| kanzure | (the paper then says how much labels suck (yay)) | 19:08 |
| fenn | forward to OM? | 19:10 |
| kanzure | should I include the link to the PDF? | 19:11 |
| fenn | ya | 19:13 |
| fenn | the website doesnt mean much to me | 19:13 |
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| kanzure | fenn: heh. "therefore function is insufficient for evaluating compatibility" | 19:37 |
| kanzure | unfortunately, Rob Stone, one of the guys running VOICED from another university, | 19:37 |
| kanzure | and Wood, the professor in the manufacturing/design lab (parent lab to ADL), | 19:38 |
| kanzure | wrote "Development of a Functional Basis for Design" | 19:38 |
| kanzure | *do'h* | 19:38 |
| fenn | well, he's right | 19:38 |
| genehacker | Wood as in Kristen L Wood? | 19:44 |
| kanzure | yes, I believe so. | 19:45 |
| kanzure | the mechanical guy | 19:45 |
| genehacker | do you know what research he does in Solid Freeform Fabrication? | 19:46 |
| kanzure | He doesn't any more. | 19:47 |
| kanzure | He now helps run the parent lab to ADL | 19:47 |
| genehacker | ok | 19:47 |
| genehacker | I want to know what this university does in the way of SFF research | 19:48 |
| kanzure | hey isn't there a site that lets you search government grants to researchers? | 19:50 |
| kanzure | and wasn't there also a way to narrow down the search by the institution and keywords? | 19:50 |
| genehacker | nevermind | 19:51 |
| genehacker | found the universities site on it | 19:51 |
| genehacker | interesting, someone here is trying to do nanolithography freeform fabrication | 19:54 |
| genehacker | I wonder how that works out | 19:54 |
| kanzure | link? | 19:54 |
| genehacker | http://utwired.engr.utexas.edu/lff/research/#SURF | 19:54 |
| kanzure | TM 3 | 19:54 |
| genehacker | ??? | 19:55 |
| kanzure | <--- has the dual functionality of also being a giant associative pokemon lookup table | 19:55 |
| kanzure | surf was TM 3, "technical machine 3" | 19:56 |
| genehacker | found a cool paper, can't find the paper though | 19:57 |
| genehacker | D.Y. Fozdar, W. Zhang, M. Palard, C.W. Patrick, S.C. Chen, “Flash Imprint Lithography Using a Mask Aligner: a Method for Printing Nanostructures in Photosensitive Hydrogels,” Nanotechnology, Vol. 19, pp. 215303 (1-13), 2008. | 19:57 |
| kanzure | ooh | 19:58 |
| genehacker | http://www.me.utexas.edu/~scchen/publications.html | 19:58 |
| genehacker | here we go | 19:58 |
| kanzure | this other paper that I'm reading, ref 8 from the previous one, | 19:58 |
| kanzure | has a full assembly planner implementation | 19:59 |
| kanzure | page 385 (17 of the PDF)- 'rotate pallet/trunion .. insert PART-23 .. orient and install DETECTOR-0" | 19:59 |
| kanzure3 | http://heybryan.org/books/Manufacturing/A%20prototype%20of%20feature-based%20design%20for%20assembly.pdf | 19:59 |
| kanzure | huh, also a task planner for reconfiguring a flexible manufacturing floor .. wtf? this must be bullshit | 20:00 |
| genehacker | http://www.me.utexas.edu/~scchen/pdf/2007JVST.pdf | 20:01 |
| kanzure | UV lamp heh | 20:04 |
| genehacker | well I'll be | 20:04 |
| genehacker | one of the papers mentioned in a paper about membraneless filtration was written by that guy | 20:11 |
| kanzure | fenn: so I went through an entire conversation with you without knowing that we were talking about two different papers | 20:35 |
| kanzure | huh.. | 20:35 |
| fenn | yeah i was sort of confused what that german website had to do with anything | 20:36 |
| fenn | i guess i skipped a couple pages while reading the backlog | 20:38 |
| kanzure | anyway, just for completeness' sake, /books/Manufacturing/ always has the last-modified option so that you can see the latest papers dumped in there. | 20:44 |
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| kanzure | my inbox has been talking to itself today about a few cases of parents taking their kids to Costa Rica for a stem cell therapy treatment for autism | 21:09 |
| kanzure | the youtube video shows little girls getting injections through the wrist | 21:10 |
| kanzure3 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0ZanIBoGHU&feature=related | 21:11 |
| kanzure3 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlSaXCzLW6w&feature=related | 21:11 |
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| kanzure3 | http://www.secretlifeofmachines.com/ | 22:34 |
| kanzure3 | http://www.timhunkin.com/ | 22:38 |
| kanzure3 | http://www.timhunkin.com/44_secretlifeofmachines2.htm huh, he encourages people to grab his tv show via torrenting | 22:40 |
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| genehacker | check this out | 23:31 |
| genehacker | http://micromanufacturing.com/showthread.php?t=399 | 23:31 |
| genehacker | 0.5 mm borescope | 23:33 |
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