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| kanzure3 | http://www.projectaten.net/tiki-custom_home.php <- "atomic coordinates" - why does this need an entire library? I must be misunderstanding something. | 08:29 |
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| kanzure3 | http://turin.nss.udel.edu/research/tubegenonline.html | 08:29 |
| kanzure3 | http://jcrystal.com/steffenweber/JAVA/jnano/jnano.html | 08:29 |
| kanzure3 | "Web-Accessible Nanotube Structure Generator" | 08:30 |
| kanzure3 | http://hdihandbook.com/ for PCBs. | 08:32 |
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| kanzure3 | http://www.cloaca.be/machines.htm Human digestion machine | 15:50 |
| kanzure3 | inputs - foods, various stomach acids, various GI tract enzymes | 15:50 |
| kanzure3 | output: shit. | 15:50 |
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| kanzure3 | In graph pegging, we view each vertex of a graph as a hole into which a peg can be placed, with checker-like ``pegging moves'' allowed. Motivated by well-studied questions in graph pebbling, we introduce two pegging quantities. The pegging number (respectively, the optimal pegging number) of a graph is the minimum number of pegs such that for every (respectively, some) distribution of that many pegs on the graph, any vertex can be reached by a sequence of pegging moves. We prove several basic properties of pegging and analyze the pegging number and optimal pegging number of several classes of graphs, including paths, cycles, products with complete graphs, hypercubes, and graphs of small diameter. | 18:35 |
| kanzure3 | http://arxiv.org/abs/0804.1095 | 18:35 |
| kanzure3 | ^ my math teacher's paper. | 18:35 |
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| kanzure | genehacker: http://arxiv.org/abs/0804.1095 <-- written by my current math teacher | 19:09 |
| kanzure | on 'graph pegging' | 19:09 |
| genehacker | huh? | 19:10 |
| ybit | kanzure, i read your post on dependencies yesterday. are you against open money? to me, it seems like a natural evolution to a gift economy | 20:16 |
| kanzure | how | 20:41 |
| kanzure | don't let money-- or people-- get in the way between my tech | 20:42 |
| kanzure | or else. rawr. | 20:42 |
| kanzure3 | http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081204074810.htm | 21:42 |
| kanzure3 | "Robot That Jumps Like A Grasshopper And Rolls Like A Ball Created For Space Exploration" | 21:42 |
| kanzure3 | meh, get Lipson on a robotic exploration project and you might have a fab@home on Mars | 21:42 |
| kanzure3 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osGZzOdInho | 21:45 |
| ybit | exchange is a way of dealing with scarcity, so until we are in post-scarcity we need a way of dealing with this issue, no? | 22:11 |
| ybit | so, it would then make sense to improve the current situation, what do you propose we do? [kanzure] | 22:12 |
| ybit | actually, anyone in here, feel free to respond | 22:12 |
| kanzure | what does money have to do with exchange | 22:13 |
| kanzure | I mean, why do you insist on this money thing? | 22:13 |
| ybit | the system that is used now to exchange goods creates an artificial scarcity, open money's goal is to show that indeed, it is only artificial. money allows for quicker trading, without it, how would you acquire goods? | 22:28 |
| kanzure | how do you presently acquire goods | 22:31 |
| ybit | offering a service in exchange for a token which i then exchange with someone who is servicing me in exchange for my token | 22:41 |
| ybit | [repeat] | 22:41 |
| kanzure | that's not what I mean | 22:41 |
| kanzure | if I told you to go get me a chocolate bar, what would you do | 22:41 |
| ybit | ask you for money | 22:41 |
| kanzure | sigh | 22:42 |
| kanzure | then you're worthless :p | 22:42 |
| ybit | hah, what? :P | 22:42 |
| ybit | i would go to a workplace and give them what little money i have in exchange for the cheapest piece of chocolate i could buy, is that good for this example? | 22:43 |
| kanzure | you'd go click a few buttons on a computer | 22:43 |
| kanzure | or go take one off the stack physically at the store | 22:43 |
| ybit | righto | 22:43 |
| ybit | keep going, afk for about 5mins | 22:44 |
| ybit | and i'm back | 22:49 |
| ybit | you didn't continue | 22:49 |
| kanzure | to what? | 22:50 |
| ybit | i dunno, where were you going with "[22:38] <kanzure> if I told you to go get me a chocolate bar, what would you do"? | 22:55 |
| kanzure | show you that the money doesn't have to be there | 22:56 |
| ybit | right, but i'm saying that you have to show others that it isn't required | 22:57 |
| ybit | and there's a process of doing that, open money is a natural progression from the current system to a gift economy | 22:57 |
| ybit | imo | 22:57 |
| ybit | as open money shows that scarcity isn't quite like the current system has us to believe, then we can more easily progress to a gift economy, no? | 22:58 |
| ybit | did pwn you? ;D | 23:01 |
| ybit | did i* | 23:02 |
| kanzure | nah | 23:02 |
| ybit | you're advocating a gift economy right? | 23:03 |
| kanzure | well ideally I'd advocate getting rid of the concept of economy entirely | 23:03 |
| * kanzure would like to just focus on his machines and such | 23:03 | |
| kanzure | you're hitting me at a bad time anyway, I'm not running on drugs | 23:03 |
| ybit | sadly, i can't afford the provigil prescribed to me :| | 23:04 |
| * ybit needs a job | 23:04 | |
| ybit | or someone to lend me $300/month | 23:04 |
| kanzure | hm | 23:04 |
| kanzure | is that all you need? | 23:04 |
| ybit | yup | 23:04 |
| kanzure | I could afford to do that, but I'd much rather just set up a provigil lab | 23:06 |
| ybit | modafinil is hard to synthesize | 23:06 |
| kanzure | s/do/help out on that/ | 23:06 |
| ybit | not sure if i have shared this before: http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/adrafinil.modafinil.html | 23:12 |
| ybit | "synthesis of adrafinil and modafinil" | 23:13 |
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| kanzure | fenn, did you ever see that Joseph Jackson video ? | 23:41 |
| genehacker | modafinil? | 23:41 |
| genehacker | kanzure, that jumping robot might be related to reprap | 23:42 |
| kanzure | same uni, I know | 23:42 |
| genehacker | bet it shares the same parent printer as reprap | 23:42 |
| kanzure | maybe in the ancestry | 23:43 |
| kanzure | but I would hope that they have had an explosion of new printers on campus | 23:43 |
| kanzure | if not, that'd be kinda sad :( | 23:44 |
| genehacker | reprap growth is hyperbolic | 23:44 |
| kanzure | if you write that up into a 2 page paper | 23:45 |
| kanzure | you could publish that on arxiv | 23:45 |
| genehacker | heh | 23:45 |
| genehacker | I might do just that for the lulz | 23:45 |
| kanzure | god I suck, "you could publish a paper on that!!" | 23:45 |
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| ybit | grr, i need a render farm | 23:53 |
| kanzure | I think I qualify as a render farm | 23:55 |
| kanzure | what do you need rendered? | 23:55 |
| kanzure | and if not, there's clusters around here. | 23:55 |
| genehacker | you could send the raw render data to someone else | 23:57 |
| genehacker | and have the NSA render it for you | 23:57 |
| genehacker | if you make the NSA think the render data contains a secret message | 23:57 |
| genehacker | but sense I told you this, they probably won't now | 23:58 |
| ybit | it's nothing important, was editing video from the charity event this past week and am putting a few special effects in it | 23:58 |
| ybit | genehacker, : | 23:58 |
| ybit | :) * | 23:58 |
| genehacker | 098765442645856985885764e655337378b87h? | 23:58 |
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