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| ybit | "I would be willing to volunteer programming time to assist. I would recommend an ajax interface as that is universally supported. It is actually quite easy to setup." | 00:48 |
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| ybit | :P | 00:48 |
| ybit | okay, i guess that's fine for some.. but that's not what i had in mind when i read your email | 00:49 |
| ybit | btw, i think william is in this channel... | 00:53 |
| ybit | i forget which nick though | 00:53 |
| ybit | ..if he is | 00:53 |
| ybit | ooh, right wrldpc | 00:53 |
| ybit | ajax man | 00:54 |
| ybit | always wanting to make an ajax app :P | 00:54 |
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| kanzure | ybit: wrldpc is not the person who suggested AJAX | 08:08 |
| kanzure | that would be xp_prg | 08:08 |
| kanzure | and you're right, AJAX is kind of "a thing that might happen way the hell into the future". | 08:12 |
| ybit | aah yes, wrldpc | 08:36 |
| ybit | argh, xp_prg | 08:37 |
| * ybit is off to get some coffee | 08:37 | |
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| kanzure-- | I have some fules named rules2[ruleblah.xml. | 11:15 |
| kanzure-- | I'm trying to do this: | 11:16 |
| kanzure-- | rename "s/[\[]/\\/" *.xml | 11:16 |
| kanzure-- | however, rename says that the regex is not terminated (I've also tried without quotes) | 11:16 |
| kanzure-- | but \\ clearly means \, since \ is usually a special character | 11:16 |
| kanzure-- | [\[] should match for "[" (since "[" is a special character)-- I've also tried \[ | 11:16 |
| kanzure-- | huh, it had to be \\\. thought I tried that. | 11:17 |
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| bkero | erm | 13:45 |
| bkero | To match [, you should do s/[ | 13:46 |
| bkero | Yea, your regex isn't terminated because the ] isn't escaped. | 13:46 |
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| fenn | kanzure: i think dave's a little too eager to drink the corporate kool-aid.. however i appreciate his enthusiasm | 15:08 |
| fenn | he talks about unptnt like it's a web-2.0 startup, but that's not fitting of it | 15:09 |
| fenn | does he have any actual hardware projects in mind? | 15:14 |
| fenn | realistic, achievable within six months sort of thing | 15:14 |
| fenn | i really need to git-ify my home directory | 15:39 |
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| davidnunez | from a dorkbot-boston member: http://tim.cexx.org/?p=575 | 16:25 |
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| gene__ | hahahah steppin razor | 17:04 |
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| kanzure | fenn: dave seems to have my energy that I otherwise direct to my fingers | 17:08 |
| kanzure | hm, anissimov wants me to moderate an transhumanism-themed anime mailing list | 17:08 |
| kanzure | *a | 17:08 |
| fenn | perhaps if it had a vinyl cutter | 17:19 |
| kanzure | fenn: one of his hardware projects was the hektor thingy but he used that as an example so I don't know if you mean something else | 17:30 |
| fenn | i mean stuff he wants to do | 17:31 |
| fenn | beyond aggregating plans | 17:32 |
| kanzure | he and I talked afterwards, I suggested legos (as you could have guessed) | 17:33 |
| fenn | legos for unptnt? | 17:33 |
| kanzure | that's about the max on the usefulness scale I can see out of this | 17:34 |
| kanzure | yes | 17:34 |
| kanzure | legos for seeding the parts library/database | 17:34 |
| fenn | they arent exactly open designs | 17:34 |
| fenn | i mean the configuration of blocks is. oh whatever nevermind | 17:35 |
| kanzure | jdfkl;djflasdk | 17:35 |
| kanzure | oh, the configuration is? | 17:35 |
| kanzure | I mean, why is there leocad then? | 17:35 |
| fenn | the original lego was patented until a couple years ago.. i'm sure the newer blocks are patented too | 17:35 |
| kanzure | oh, sure | 17:35 |
| kanzure | yeah, just the basic building blocks in legos | 17:35 |
| fenn | and 99% of the people looking at unptnt won't be able to make legos from scratch | 17:35 |
| kanzure | I don't think dave's interested in that | 17:36 |
| kanzure | :/ | 17:36 |
| kanzure | but he should be. | 17:36 |
| fenn | lego's arent designed for personal manufacture anyway | 17:36 |
| fenn | something like extruded plastic t-slot framing would be interesting to try to make | 17:36 |
| kanzure | I'm just saying, that seems to be about the max utility of this system | 17:36 |
| kanzure | like "unptnt for the local lego user group" | 17:36 |
| kanzure | it's not bad, but it's not going the distance | 17:37 |
| fenn | yeah it's just a sourceforge clone at best (and I hate sf fwiw) | 17:37 |
| kanzure | his packaging idea was ok I guess, | 17:38 |
| kanzure | the idea of attaching the cad files to the BOM items | 17:38 |
| kanzure | but then you're not sure if the parts are named the same thing | 17:38 |
| kanzure | erm, I mean, it's not cross-referenced | 17:38 |
| kanzure | it's just "whatever they happen to upload to describe the parts" | 17:38 |
| kanzure | blah, as if each person would upload "all possible information about this single screw in my design that is so large that a single screw doesn't matter that much" | 17:39 |
| kanzure | that sounds unlikely now that I think about it | 17:39 |
| kanzure | they have no incentive to be thorough, or make sense at all for that matter. | 17:45 |
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| kanzure | http://www.baseplate.com/toys/minifig/ "THIS online toy allows one to explore combinations of LEGO® minifig body parts, combining them into unusual characters. Clicking on the small images of heads, torsos, and legs from the menu of choices places them in a work area. (Randomizers can also be used at this stage.) Once a suitable set of selections has been made, the virtual figure can be named and "built." This completed character appears in its own browser window, from which it is possible to output onto paper. (For those who have never done so, printing from a browser window is done by typing Cmnd-P in the MacOS, or Ctrl-P in Windows.)" | 18:27 |
| kanzure | http://www.suave.net/~dave/lgc.cgi lego geek code generator | 18:27 |
| kanzure | http://www.scottwardlaw.com/sticker_generator/ Lego CAD Sticker Generator | 18:28 |
| gene__ | what's all this with lego cad? | 18:45 |
| gene__ | trying to see if autocatalytic sets exist in lego? | 18:46 |
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| xp_prg | kanzure send me adp1 | 18:53 |
| samrose | kanzure, fenn, it is that problem of naming stuff that I am interested in | 18:53 |
| samrose | for packaging | 18:53 |
| samrose | but, I also am of the mind that it will emerge from a project that releases a design using a package system that is popular, and people will start following suit from there | 18:54 |
| samrose | it won't be about the package system, it'll be about what is in it that gets a bunch of people using the system to get at and work with what is in it | 18:55 |
| samrose | then, it'll quickly be about the package system :) | 18:55 |
| samrose | you know how people are... | 18:55 |
| fenn | yeah nobody cares about properly designed systems it seems | 18:56 |
| samrose | until they are using a system that they think is not properly designed | 18:56 |
| samrose | it's like being the bass player in a band | 18:56 |
| samrose | nobody remembers who you are | 18:56 |
| samrose | but your role is vital | 18:57 |
| samrose | If I hear one more person say "He/she really 'gets' it" I am going to throttle someone :) (was at a conference where I kept hearing people say this in reference to other people) | 18:58 |
| fenn | "it" being a specific thing or just stuff in general? | 19:00 |
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| samrose | yeah "it" is never really defined. this always annoys the fuck out of me | 19:22 |
| samrose | "he just gets it" | 19:23 |
| samrose | nobody gets it | 19:23 |
| samrose | or we would all be sitting on the beach and relaxing, because the guy who gets it would be taking care of everything for us | 19:23 |
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| fenn | gene when are you going to bring over the reprap parts? | 20:29 |
| kanzure | gene might come with dr. sata, who might be interested in dumping some money into the place, especially because of his new grant money from DARPA | 20:31 |
| kanzure | but really he should be thought of as only providing that money | 20:31 |
| kanzure | he's not really up to speed on what exactly this all .. means.. | 20:31 |
| fenn | how much money? ballpark figure | 20:32 |
| fenn | and .. why? | 20:32 |
| kanzure | well, I figure that if he's going to spend money, it might as well go in my direction, if I can provide what he's looking for | 20:33 |
| kanzure | 6 figures. | 20:33 |
| fenn | that ought to keep me stocked in chocolate for a while | 20:33 |
| kanzure | right, so if it means he wants to somehow use the tools on occassion or something, maybe that could be arranged, or whatever- I don't know what will go down, but it's just an option I'm keeping open | 20:34 |
| fenn | i must say this $65 mobo/cpu combo is much better than my old computer | 20:34 |
| kanzure | I would have to tell les though that sata's not quite an individual to go into detail with about plans simply because he would run away | 20:34 |
| kanzure | fenn: non-laptop? | 20:34 |
| fenn | it's called "tubputer" because it's just a bunch of parts in a seafood container | 20:35 |
| kanzure | heh | 20:35 |
| kanzure | yes, that's the way to go :) | 20:35 |
| kanzure | hm, $50k social innovation competition paperwork just fell off my desk. don't know if I'm going to enter into that. sata gave me the paperwork. I looked over what's already on the site, there's just not much there, but it seems to be a vote-based system, which means it automagically sucks. | 20:36 |
| kanzure | *dell social innovation competition | 20:36 |
| fenn | what would sata be doing in the fab? i'm always interested in people's projects | 20:36 |
| kanzure | sata would be sending a student probably, to work on parts or something, I'm not really sure. | 20:37 |
| kanzure | he seems to like the idea of making commercialized items, so it would be for prototyping stuff I guess | 20:37 |
| kanzure | anyway, on to things that actually matter, since I haven't had a chance to talk with you since you've arrived really | 20:37 |
| fenn | right | 20:38 |
| kanzure | you mentioned it was more physical work than expected | 20:38 |
| kanzure | to what extent does this need to be fixed? | 20:38 |
| fenn | what was? | 20:38 |
| kanzure | hm, the deal with les I guess? I don't know in particular. | 20:38 |
| kanzure | have you talked with les much, does he seem to be everything I said and such? | 20:39 |
| fenn | oh well he's a woodworker, and woodworking is sort of an ancient craft | 20:39 |
| fenn | i sort of loathe table saws | 20:39 |
| fenn | but i can put up with itif it keeps the whole place going | 20:39 |
| kanzure | it was carissa's (sister's) birthday tonight, so mom, andrew and larry (old guy living with her) took me out to the Mongolian Grill, | 20:40 |
| kanzure | we got to talking, | 20:40 |
| kanzure | and mom was laughing about les' 13 inch drum sander | 20:40 |
| kanzure | apparently 13 inches is tiny.. she once had a 30 inch drum sander. | 20:40 |
| kanzure | (she has a woodworking shop of her own down in lockhart) | 20:40 |
| fenn | yes we were talking about putting a 48" on the mechmate | 20:40 |
| kanzure | blah, there's probably many things (project wise) that have been mentioned | 20:41 |
| kanzure | we're kind of back to your original question "what do I do first" | 20:41 |
| fenn | i know what to do first | 20:41 |
| kanzure | sitting down and typing out a todo list would take many days | 20:41 |
| fenn | synchronize all my computer crap, set up the electronics area, start working on motor drivers | 20:42 |
| fenn | hm i need to make a programmer to program my programmers.. blah | 20:42 |
| fenn | classic | 20:42 |
| kanzure | a flasher? | 20:42 |
| fenn | yes | 20:42 |
| kanzure | I remember nasty schematics for making pic flashers | 20:42 |
| kanzure | involving various resistors and capacitors arranged in odd patterns, connected to a serial port on a computer | 20:43 |
| fenn | robo-club was soldering together some boards i had etched, so i took one, but the chip hasnt been flashed yet to enable USB | 20:43 |
| kanzure | but that was the cheap-skate version | 20:43 |
| fenn | yes i'll be making the equivalent for AVR to bootstrap | 20:43 |
| kanzure | USB would be nice. | 20:43 |
| fenn | unfortunately it only works with usb 2.0 | 20:43 |
| fenn | er, UHCI if that means anything to you | 20:43 |
| fenn | or was it EHCI? the newer one | 20:44 |
| kanzure | I once had an old external USB hard drive that did this funky ethernet over USB protocol. | 20:44 |
| kanzure | really not something I'd recommend. | 20:44 |
| kanzure | (that might have been more high-level than UHCI/ehci/ohci) | 20:44 |
| fenn | do you know how to set timezone on linux without using some lamesauce GUI crap? | 20:46 |
| kanzure | `date` ? | 20:46 |
| fenn | tzset just tells me to add TZ=... to .profile, which doesn't work for system-wide things | 20:46 |
| kanzure | there's also /usr/share/zoneinfo | 20:47 |
| kanzure | woah, neat, irssi has tab completion for directories | 20:47 |
| * kanzure is in heaven | 20:47 | |
| kanzure | symlink your /usr/share/zoneinfo/blah to /etc/localtime | 20:48 |
| fenn | i was amazed when i first encountered readline completion for program arguments | 20:48 |
| kanzure | you mean tab completion for arguments? | 20:48 |
| fenn | yeah | 20:48 |
| kanzure | I wonder how that works without a .ggo distributed with it. | 20:48 |
| kanzure | sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't for me | 20:49 |
| kanzure | (based on program) | 20:49 |
| fenn | aha Run 'dpkg-reconfigure tzdata' if you wish to change it. | 20:49 |
| fenn | i should make a "dear lazyweb please send me this hardware kthx" page | 20:52 |
| kanzure | "this"? | 20:52 |
| fenn | for instance i need a hard drive and a beagleboard | 20:52 |
| kanzure | I have an extra 500 GB floating around somewhere from the death-house | 20:53 |
| fenn | i know there are tons of people with beagleboards laying around doing nothing | 20:53 |
| kanzure | fabpal > myfab | 20:56 |
| fenn | hard to pronounce | 20:57 |
| kanzure | the retro way out: xfabuntu | 20:58 |
| kanzure | (actually, the two other major TLDs are not taken for 'fabuntu') | 20:58 |
| fenn | hmm what's the letter prefix for icewm? | 20:58 |
| fenn | ifabuntu? :P | 20:58 |
| fenn | given les' mac proclivities iFab would be pretty funny | 20:59 |
| kanzure | or given his stacks of ipods. | 20:59 |
| kanzure | fyi, opennovation doesn't have an openfoam backport. | 21:03 |
| kanzure | opencascade, libmesh, deal.II, PETSc, Elmer, but no openfoam | 21:03 |
| kanzure | elmer might be useful though | 21:03 |
| kanzure | " | 21:03 |
| kanzure | Elmer includes physical models of fluid dynamics, structural mechanics, electromagnetics, heat transfer and acoustics, for example. These are described by partial differential equations which Elmer solves by the Finite Element Method (FEM)." | 21:03 |
| kanzure | (for some reason I'm already on the elmer mailing list, so.) | 21:03 |
| kanzure | "Temperature distribution of melt flow in Czochralski growth of silicon." | 21:03 |
| kanzure | http://www.csc.fi/english/pages/elmer | 21:03 |
| fenn | xsel really ought to come with xserver-xorg | 21:07 |
| fenn | unless there's some other preferred way | 21:07 |
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| kanzure | had to hunt down a weird 'laspack' (linear algebra solver) for openflower (because I got tired of trying to install openfoam, elmer, etc.) | 21:31 |
| kanzure | and now a bug because someone forgot to include math.h and to define INT_MAX (isn't that a compiler/preprocessor thingy anyway?) | 21:32 |
| fenn | why isnt openfoam in debian? | 21:32 |
| kanzure | because it's so hard to install :p | 21:32 |
| kanzure | I should go ask the debian-science list that question | 21:32 |
| fenn | supposedly there are rpm's | 21:33 |
| fenn | http://www.rage.net/aero/ | 21:33 |
| fenn | http://osdir.com/ml/linux.debian.science/2008-04/msg00046.html | 21:34 |
| kanzure | maximumTimeSteps=INT_MAX; | 21:34 |
| kanzure | any ideas as to what I should put there? I'm guessing it wants to know my maximum possible integer value | 21:35 |
| kanzure | that's a kind of funny way to do it | 21:35 |
| kanzure | oh, dot rpm's would be lovely. | 21:35 |
| fenn | try including limits.h | 21:35 |
| kanzure | yay | 21:37 |
| kanzure | blah, "fabs was not declared in this scope" | 21:37 |
| kanzure | this is a rather shady package. feels like it was meant for gcc 3.x. | 21:37 |
| kanzure | oh, that might be from math.h | 21:39 |
| kanzure | yep. | 21:39 |
| fenn | bad build system | 21:39 |
| kanzure | how do I link to local libraries (.a's) | 21:41 |
| kanzure | "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -llaspack" even though liblaspack.a has been put into the dir. | 21:41 |
| fenn | I did the installation by hand as well, and can't remember any significant difficulties with installing it except in that there were some environmental variables that I had to hack into my bash init scripts. --bryan bishop | 21:41 |
| fenn | lol | 21:41 |
| kanzure | for openfoam? | 21:42 |
| fenn | yes | 21:42 |
| kanzure | yeah, I rediscovered that this time | 21:42 |
| kanzure | :( | 21:42 |
| kanzure | fuck. | 21:42 |
| kanzure | ah, /usr/share/lib | 21:44 |
| kanzure | do you know what -lxc might be? libxc? | 21:45 |
| fenn | too bad you didnt say *what* environment vairables eh? : ) | 21:45 |
| kanzure | it's in the openfoam readme | 21:45 |
| kanzure | they supply some additions to the bashrc file that you include via adding this line: | 21:45 |
| kanzure | . ~/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-1.5.x/blah/blah/blah/bashrc | 21:45 |
| kanzure | I meant to say /usr/local/lib above | 21:51 |
| kanzure | huh, openflower is asking me for a "simulation data file", and openflower.sf.net has "coming soon!" for FAQ and 'Documentation' links. | 21:52 |
| kanzure | neat.. | 21:52 |
| kanzure | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=104134&package_id=114557 | 21:53 |
| kanzure | there we go. | 21:53 |
| kanzure | out of 21 pages, only page 10 is useful, and even then it's sketchy. nowhere else does it mention a dependence on gmsh (though I should have guessed. openfoam does the same.) | 21:56 |
| kanzure | god this is such a hack | 22:01 |
| kanzure | // read the block of the vertices | 22:01 |
| kanzure | inputFile >> keyword; | 22:01 |
| kanzure | assert(keyword == "$NOD"); | 22:01 |
| kanzure | ("assert failed") | 22:01 |
| kanzure | http://www.rage.net/aero/4/i386/OpenFOAM-1.3-1.i386.rpm | 22:07 |
| kanzure | http://www.mikero.com/blog/2009/02/20/more-darwin <- hah | 22:10 |
| fenn | see what i mean about it sometimes being easier to just build it? | 22:11 |
| kanzure | what? | 22:11 |
| kanzure | it wasn't easier to just build it though :) | 22:11 |
| fenn | what's this for again? | 22:12 |
| kanzure | me me me me me, but eventually, I'd like to throw in my own partial differential equations and get those solved (which might be more suitable for octave) | 22:12 |
| kanzure | in fact, I might as well just do some funky octave -> gnuplot visualizer | 22:12 |
| kanzure | screw this | 22:12 |
| kanzure | also just to get a feel for whether or not filters might work | 22:13 |
| fenn | me = mechanical engineering? :P | 22:13 |
| kanzure | no, me as in meeee | 22:13 |
| kanzure | huh, the openfoam rpm installed successfully. | 22:13 |
| fenn | yay | 22:13 |
| fenn | now to see if it works | 22:14 |
| kanzure | version 1.3 though. don't know how terribly old that is (1.5.x is newest) | 22:14 |
| kanzure | blah, need to install jdk - I've gone so long without having to resort to jaa. | 22:14 |
| kanzure | *java | 22:14 |
| kanzure | do I want sun-java-6-jdk, sun-java5-jdk, openjdk-6-jdk, ? | 22:15 |
| fenn | someone was recommending a certain non-sun JVM on #reprap the other day | 22:18 |
| kanzure | blacksun? | 22:18 |
| kanzure | there's one like that. | 22:18 |
| fenn | it was called IcedTea | 22:22 |
| fenn | so i guess that's just openjdk | 22:24 |
| fenn | road bikes are rather hard to come by around here | 22:35 |
| kanzure | btw, feel free to impose yourself for grabbing lunch with me any time. i'll pay. | 22:37 |
| fenn | woo | 22:37 |
| fenn | i could probably make a business out of importing road bikes from bloomington | 22:39 |
| kanzure | yes, there seems to be a minor bike economy here on campus sort of. | 22:40 |
| kanzure | http://disk.ersca.com/ports/science/openfoam/files/pkg-message.in <- how I found how to set FOAMX_CONFIG | 22:41 |
| fenn | i love the %%%%%% | 22:43 |
| fenn | seems to be some kind of debian repository? | 22:45 |
| kanzure | foamTestInstallation -> FATAL ERROR: Test_rsh: Test_ssh: No remote shell available. Foam1.3 environment requires either ssh and/or rsh. | 22:45 |
| kanzure | *conspiracy* | 22:45 |
| fenn | oh maybe it's freebsd packages | 22:46 |
| fenn | strace foamTestInstallation | 22:47 |
| kanzure | http://fab.cba.mit.edu/about/fab/ <- cad.py and such.. just something I need to remember to look into more often | 22:59 |
| kanzure | kokompe? | 23:00 |
| fenn | did anything ever come out of kokompe? | 23:02 |
| fenn | it was something like a parts library/cad app iiirc | 23:02 |
| fenn | interesting post about how not to run a fablab: http://scripts.mit.edu/~emu/fab/?p=842 | 23:07 |
| fenn | well, that's not the actual topic but it's what I get from it | 23:07 |
| kanzure | "dingy grimy overalls… what has spending a year with the FabLab at their disposal done other than to cause them to covet machines and tools they can’t have?" | 23:10 |
| kanzure | reads like something out of a history book | 23:11 |
| fenn | yes i'm picturing spanner wrenches and golf caps | 23:11 |
| fenn | i dont know who i was kidding, thikning i'd fix one linux install and then immediately start on another | 23:13 |
| kanzure | git clone ssh://fabguru@fab.cba.mit.edu/srv/www/git-repos/content.git | 23:14 |
| kanzure | http://fab.cba.mit.edu/git-repos/ | 23:14 |
| kanzure | behold! | 23:14 |
| fenn | whee | 23:14 |
| kanzure | none are working | 23:15 |
| * fenn attempts wget | 23:16 | |
| fenn | use the rabbit virus! | 23:16 |
| fenn | </hackers> | 23:16 |
| kanzure | 8.7 MB in 108 files. | 23:16 |
| kanzure | oh, that was only about.git | 23:17 |
| fenn | wow 500kB/s download here | 23:18 |
| fenn | excuse me 850 | 23:18 |
| kanzure | I wish 'locate' would sit and watch on the file system for new files to index, I'd really like to figure out where redhat would have put the FoamX configuration file | 23:19 |
| fenn | these guys are hiring "basket builders" for organic produce.. would be awesome to convert this to robots http://www.greenling.com/ | 23:26 |
| fenn | (automating myself out of a job in the process) | 23:26 |
| fenn | http://www.greenling.com/home/how_it_works | 23:27 |
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| gene | so fenn I heard you're in austin | 23:28 |
| kanzure | I offered him lunch any time, so maybe he can meet us on campus | 23:29 |
| kanzure | s/on/near/ | 23:29 |
| fenn | yes gene that is correct | 23:30 |
| fenn | what's the best way to get to campus? | 23:30 |
| gene | are you here on business? | 23:30 |
| fenn | er.. yeah | 23:30 |
| gene | ummmm... | 23:30 |
| fenn | the business of TAKING OVER THE WORLD | 23:30 |
| gene | you came down here on your own business? | 23:31 |
| gene | try taking the bus | 23:31 |
| gene | where are you currently? | 23:32 |
| fenn | les's house | 23:32 |
| kanzure | fenn: funny, I suggested to gene just moments ago that we needed to take over the world | 23:32 |
| kanzure | fenn: is your car drivable still? | 23:32 |
| fenn | yes it fared well | 23:32 |
| kanzure | but there's a giant bus hub near the shop, but it will take an hour by bus to get into austin I think | 23:32 |
| gene | you drove down here? | 23:32 |
| kanzure | (google maps knows all) | 23:32 |
| kanzure | obvious way to get to campus is to go up congress | 23:33 |
| fenn | gene: i came to help get the fablabby started, so i brought a bunch of tools and electronic components | 23:33 |
| gene | inventory? | 23:33 |
| fenn | if i could rent a train car i would have.. | 23:33 |
| gene | I | 23:33 |
| gene | would opt for a chinook helicopter | 23:34 |
| fenn | is there anything to do on campus at 1 am? | 23:34 |
| kanzure | hm | 23:34 |
| fenn | besides lunch :) | 23:34 |
| gene | 1 am? | 23:34 |
| gene | not really | 23:34 |
| kanzure | there's a few places still open but it's a few blocks of a walk, if you want | 23:34 |
| kanzure | not on campus | 23:34 |
| kanzure | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=S+Congress+Ave+%26+Ben+White+Blvd,+Austin,+Travis,+Texas+78704&daddr=24th+Street+%26+Guadalupe&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&dirflg=r&date=02%2F20%2F09&time=11:33pm&ttype=dep&noexp=0&noal=0&sort=&tline=&sll=30.2569,-97.746866&sspn=0.104239,0.096302&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=12&start=0 | 23:34 |
| gene | well lets see there's an anime screening going on | 23:35 |
| kanzure | why wasn't I notified? | 23:35 |
| gene | the anime doesn't have giant robots | 23:35 |
| kanzure | that's why? | 23:35 |
| kanzure | heh | 23:35 |
| gene | kanzure it's every friday | 23:35 |
| kanzure | today's friday? huh. okay. | 23:35 |
| gene | ok, so I propose a beginning fablab project | 23:36 |
| kanzure | 5 mi by bus = 1 hour. blah | 23:36 |
| kanzure | 5 mi by car = 16 minutes. | 23:36 |
| gene | an easybake PCR thermocycler | 23:36 |
| gene | hey, you know what? | 23:37 |
| gene | I bet you could use a reprap as a PCR machine | 23:37 |
| fenn | why do you have to live in this complicated hard to access place? :P | 23:37 |
| gene | why not? | 23:38 |
| fenn | because | 23:38 |
| kanzure | hard to access? | 23:38 |
| gene | they might invent teleporters tomorrow | 23:38 |
| gene | kanzure, austin's pretty hard to get around in | 23:38 |
| gene | where's the fablab again? | 23:38 |
| gene | address? | 23:38 |
| gene | I might try to bike there | 23:39 |
| fenn | 209 E ben white | 23:39 |
| kanzure | fenn: there are garages near campus, try googling for brazos garage, san jacinto garage | 23:39 |
| gene | that's gonna be pretty far away | 23:40 |
| gene | there's also parking meters | 23:40 |
| kanzure | but no spaces | 23:40 |
| kanzure | unless you go park near somewhere to eat | 23:40 |
| kanzure | oh, wait, yeah, there should be some meters on guadalupe near 24th going in the opposite direction he'd be coming | 23:41 |
| kanzure | which are free at late hours. | 23:41 |
| gene | hmmm... | 23:41 |
| gene | fablab looks like it's far away | 23:41 |
| kanzure | how could you possibly be complaining about 5 miles :) | 23:42 |
| gene | ok | 23:42 |
| gene | anyway I can get a 3d map of austin to see the grade in the land? | 23:43 |
| kanzure | ? | 23:43 |
| kanzure | grade? | 23:43 |
| kanzure | gradient? | 23:43 |
| fenn | it's pretty flat | 23:43 |
| fenn | tthere is a river, you might have seen it :)3~ | 23:43 |
| gene | yeah | 23:44 |
| gene | I have | 23:44 |
| gene | Now then, all I need is some sort of way to get down to the fablab real nice and fast | 23:44 |
| fenn | i was on manchaca looking toward downtown.. couldnt figure out how far away it was because the ground was so flat | 23:45 |
| gene | perhaps a small airship? | 23:45 |
| kanzure | gene: les comes and picks me up sometimes. | 23:45 |
| kanzure | but I don't know how often that is going to happen overall | 23:45 |
| kanzure | he suggested that a friend of his, larry, might be doing that | 23:45 |
| gene | I'll have to meet this les guy? | 23:45 |
| kanzure | there's also the mores. | 23:45 |
| gene | les who again? | 23:45 |
| fenn | les is pretty cool | 23:45 |
| kanzure | les your saint | 23:45 |
| fenn | les filip | 23:45 |
| gene | fenn what do you have that's useful? | 23:45 |
| fenn | um, a brain? two hands and eyes? | 23:46 |
| kanzure | "nothing :(" | 23:46 |
| gene | the parts you brought | 23:46 |
| fenn | not sure what you mean.. i brought 651 pounds of the best stuff | 23:46 |
| fenn | one moment | 23:46 |
| gene | most interesting piece of junk? | 23:47 |
| gene | any high voltage equipment? Lasers? Optics? Old missile guidance systems | 23:48 |
| fenn | no | 23:49 |
| gene | milling machine stuff? | 23:49 |
| gene | robots? | 23:50 |
| kanzure | dave has a bronze robotic arm ("which is not really a robot") | 23:50 |
| gene | then it ain't robotic | 23:53 |
| gene | it's a pseudorobot | 23:53 |
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| fenn | whew ok | 23:55 |
| fenn | http://fennetic.net/pub/irc/brought-labeled | 23:55 |
| kanzure | heh, by mass :) | 23:56 |
| gene | ok | 23:56 |
| gene | you have a vacuum pump | 23:56 |
| gene | how much of a vacuum can it pull? | 23:57 |
| fenn | vacuum doesnt necessarily mean "high vacuum" | 23:57 |
| fenn | it's for the vacuum bag | 23:57 |
| gene | awww man... | 23:57 |
| fenn | actually i havent seen it, so.. | 23:57 |
| fenn | but if you're going to mess around with high vacuum stuff you will need a lot of other things | 23:57 |
| gene | how am I ever going to make a room temperature quasi-superconductor? | 23:57 |
| fenn | best served by one of the physics labs on campus i bet | 23:58 |
| fenn | (imagine that) | 23:58 |
| gene | http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0805/0805.0230.pdf | 23:59 |
| gene | I want one | 23:59 |
| fenn | yes i read it earlier | 23:59 |
| kanzure | I have some notes on my server about making UHVs, if you're interested gene | 23:59 |
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