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| fenn | interesting site; they dont have an exhaustive selection but it's really cheap: http://www.onlinemetalsupply.com/ | 00:00 |
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| gene_ | medical implant rod, hmmmmm.... | 00:11 |
| willPow3r | do you guys need a dedicated server for anything? | 01:13 |
| willPow3r | im working at a web hosting company now, so if u need anything let me know | 01:13 |
| kanzure | hrm | 01:13 |
| kanzure | possibly | 01:13 |
| katsmeow-afk | i just went with godaddy :-( | 01:14 |
| willPow3r | they're good for web hosting | 01:14 |
| willPow3r | we're more into dedicated servers | 01:15 |
| * katsmeow-afk nods | 01:16 | |
| willPow3r | we're actually working with a cloud computing company called 3tera | 01:17 |
| willPow3r | www.3tera.com | 01:17 |
| katsmeow-afk | so you'll be distributed around the planet like google? | 01:18 |
| willPow3r | one virtual server can utilize hardware resources from any computer connected to the cloud | 01:19 |
| willPow3r | so its not uncommon to see one machine with 20 cpus and 80 gb ram | 01:19 |
| katsmeow-afk | i thought i said that | 01:19 |
| willPow3r | then yes | 01:19 |
| katsmeow-afk | :-) | 01:19 |
| willPow3r | ;) | 01:20 |
| katsmeow-afk | Finally, an instance of an application can be cloned, together with its state, database and content, and exported to run on another grid that may be located half-way around the world. | 01:20 |
| katsmeow-afk | it doesn't seem to know about load balancing, dynamic firewall settings, or entire grid crashes for rerouting purposes | 01:21 |
| willPow3r | the most unfortunate part about it is that its proprietary | 01:22 |
| katsmeow-afk | is that why the company went with it? | 01:22 |
| katsmeow-afk | because there is freeware out there, iirc | 01:22 |
| willPow3r | probably | 01:22 |
| willPow3r | the interface on this is pretty amazing though | 01:23 |
| katsmeow-afk | cool,, but still i only needed webhosting | 01:23 |
| willPow3r | heh | 01:23 |
| willPow3r | are you doing a personal website or something? | 01:24 |
| katsmeow-afk | yes, which i had hoped would grow to a business, but shirt happens irl <shrug> | 01:24 |
| willPow3r | what kind of business | 01:26 |
| katsmeow-afk | sorta like Alexa, Ask, etc, unrestricted domain question/answer in natural language | 01:27 |
| fenn | well hey i could use some webhosting | 01:29 |
| fenn | all i really need is PHP and mod_rewrite or equivalent | 01:30 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wetting | 01:30 |
| fenn | kanzure: you're just now reading that? | 01:30 |
| kanzure | yeah I suck :( | 01:31 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_effect | 01:31 |
| willPow3r | fenn, got a domain name? | 01:32 |
| fenn | yes, it just redirects to fenn.dyndns.org though (fennetic.net) | 01:32 |
| kanzure | fenn: he's a business. | 01:33 |
| kanzure | meanwhile I've been offering you space for a year now. | 01:33 |
| fenn | your upload is like 2kb/s | 01:33 |
| willPow3r | that definitely is true | 01:33 |
| kanzure | oh | 01:33 |
| kanzure | hm, still? | 01:33 |
| fenn | well its more like 20 now | 01:34 |
| fenn | which i guess is ok | 01:34 |
| willPow3r | downloading pdfs from your site is painful | 01:34 |
| kanzure | really? | 01:35 |
| kanzure | I could start hosting them on a lab computer | 01:35 |
| kanzure | I get ~10 MB/sec from my server and from lab computers, so it makes no difference to me. | 01:35 |
| willPow3r | my server here has a 1Gbps uplink | 01:36 |
| kanzure | we're all broke. | 01:36 |
| fenn | some of us are more broke than others :P | 01:37 |
| willPow3r | yeah well they pay me to work here lol | 01:37 |
| willPow3r | i dont have to pay for it | 01:37 |
| kanzure | well good for you | 01:37 |
| willPow3r | im just saying.. trying to share the wealth | 01:37 |
| kanzure | oh, you're offering free hosting? | 01:37 |
| katsmeow-afk | lol | 01:38 |
| willPow3r | yes kanzure. | 01:38 |
| kanzure | oh. yes please. | 01:38 |
| katsmeow-afk | no way | 01:38 |
| fenn | well i got a www.tgz waiting to be uploaded | 01:39 |
| willPow3r | i only have 26 GB available on my server | 01:39 |
| willPow3r | how big is the site? | 01:39 |
| fenn | its only 200MB | 01:39 |
| kanzure | 450 GB | 01:39 |
| kanzure | fuck | 01:39 |
| fenn | rofl | 01:39 |
| willPow3r | hmm | 01:40 |
| willPow3r | send me a drive and i'll put it in there | 01:40 |
| kanzure | okay. | 01:41 |
| fenn | whois willPow3r | 01:43 |
| fenn | heh | 01:43 |
| katsmeow-afk | heh | 01:43 |
| willPow3r | lol | 01:44 |
| fenn | past my bedtime | 01:44 |
| willPow3r | fenn: im making you an ftp account on the server now | 01:44 |
| * fenn wonders if he still remembers how to use ftp | 01:46 | |
| willPow3r | would you prefer scp? | 01:47 |
| fenn | most definitely | 01:48 |
| fenn | especially if it comes with a real shell | 01:48 |
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| fenn | heh i like the builtin aliases | 02:01 |
| fenn | alias wtf='watch -n 1 w -hs' | 02:01 |
| fenn | alias wth='ps -uxa | more' | 02:01 |
| fenn | i had wtf spit out a line from the BOFH excuses list when i was doing webhosting | 02:02 |
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| katsmeow-afk | fenn, you know gobs about powder coating, that baked on "paint" ? | 02:48 |
| fenn | nope | 02:55 |
| fenn | all i know is you attach it with a high voltage spray gun and then bake it around 500 degrees (which temp scale i do not know) | 02:56 |
| katsmeow-afk | you know just why paint is riddled with tunnels? is it only caused by solvent evaporation? | 02:56 |
| fenn | i dont think so | 02:57 |
| * katsmeow-afk listens | 02:57 | |
| fenn | other things seem to evaporate cleanly | 02:57 |
| katsmeow-afk | paint seems to act like a sieve at molecular levels | 02:58 |
| katsmeow-afk | even polyurethane and such | 02:58 |
| fenn | and powder coat doesn't do that? | 03:01 |
| fenn | laser toner looks pretty globby under an electron microscope, it's basically the same stuff | 03:02 |
| katsmeow-afk | i don't know, it melts, so i don't think it outgasses | 03:02 |
| katsmeow-afk | laser toner isn't melted so much tho | 03:02 |
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| fenn | it's probably something to do with surface energy and room temperature and not enough free energy to reach a minimal configuration | 03:06 |
| * katsmeow-afk nods | 03:07 | |
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| willPow3r | fenn, server is online | 04:17 |
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| willPow3r | fenn, your www directory is /var/www/fennetic.net | 09:22 |
| fenn | good morning :) | 09:24 |
| fenn | i guess i forgot to save my old httpd.conf | 09:25 |
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| kanzure | fenn: have you downloaded OpenCASCADE_src.tgz yet? | 12:08 |
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| kanzure-_ | Arthur Magill works at EPFL? | 14:12 |
| kanzure-_ | http://www.cibm.ch/ | 14:14 |
| kanzure-_ | http://www.cibm.ch/page65754-en.html rf-coil for human brain function experiments " | 14:16 |
| kanzure-_ | The purpose of this project is to design and construct a small surface coil, to safety test it for use in humans and, finally, to acquire localised brain images from volunteers in a functional MRI study at 7T." | 14:16 |
| kanzure-_ | how do you force apt-get to get a package from a particular repository? | 14:55 |
| kanzure-_ | I don't think I actually had to compile the sources for opencascade last time, and this time, I might have done what fenn did wrong when doing apt-get update and not getting the stuff from opennovation | 14:56 |
| kanzure-_ | although the packages are supposed to be the same? | 14:56 |
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| kanzure- | what did I do after running scons? | 15:41 |
| gene_ | ??? | 16:01 |
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| kanzure- | http://dhcp-84-113.me.utexas.edu/2009-03-12/ | 17:19 |
| kanzure- | \Pumpless, selective docking of yeast cells inside a microfluidic channel induced by receding meniscus - 2006 | 17:19 |
| kanzure- | http://dhcp-84-113.me.utexas.edu/2009-03-12/Pumpless,%20selective%20docking%20of%20yeast%20cells%20inside%20a%20microfluidic%20channel%20induced%20by%20receding%20meniscus%20-%202006.pdf | 17:20 |
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| kanzure | ok, back | 18:37 |
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| kanzure | oh shit. | 19:00 |
| kanzure | rm -f SWIG_src_modular_linux_darwin/ShapeConstruct.i <--- the pitfalls of "up arrow tab completion" | 19:00 |
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| kanzure | http://dhcp-84-113.me.utexas.edu/papers/2009-03-12/ | 19:29 |
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| gene | microfluidic stickers hmmm... | 19:41 |
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| gene | yeast docking? ??? | 19:52 |
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| kanzure | gene: yeast docking. I need to re-read that one, but basically a hole grabs yeast as a very thin layer of water recedes over the surface | 20:12 |
| kanzure | fenn: http://heybryan.org/books/Manufacturing/pythonocc/linux.install.readme.txt | 20:13 |
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| kanzure | "Using lateral capillary forces to compute by self-assembly" <- a Rothemund/Winfree paper | 21:06 |
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| gene_ | so guess what? | 22:13 |
| gene_ | there's this art-tech collective thing in austin, that's being shut down for 'firecode violations' | 22:14 |
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| gene_ | I wonder if they have anything that might be of use to us fablabbers? | 22:14 |
| gene_ | http://rhizomecollective.org/ | 22:15 |
| gene_ | this is their site | 22:16 |
| gene_ | guess not | 22:17 |
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| katsmeow-afk | fenn, did you perchance send me a copy of "Miniature machining techniques" ? i cannot find it,, and if you didn't, then i will promptly cease looking for it | 23:02 |
| fenn | never heard of it | 23:04 |
| katsmeow-afk | k, that saves me time! | 23:04 |
| fenn | there was some paper about micro machine tools that all fit in a briefcase | 23:05 |
| * katsmeow-afk nods | 23:05 | |
| gene_ | the microfactory | 23:05 |
| gene_ | miniature machining techniques? | 23:05 |
| gene_ | like a mill that could fit in a back pack? | 23:06 |
| katsmeow-afk | i just built the head assy for a minilathe using http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=4486 | 23:06 |
| gene_ | I want a smaller mill | 23:07 |
| katsmeow-afk | someone else put the pics online at http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/images/kat/ | 23:07 |
| gene_ | I want to carry around a factory in my backpack | 23:07 |
| fenn | that chuck sucks | 23:07 |
| katsmeow-afk | the entire bearing assy is under 3 inches | 23:08 |
| katsmeow-afk | fenn, i know that now | 23:08 |
| katsmeow-afk | it's almost as bad as most of my drills, but a lil grinding should fix that | 23:08 |
| fenn | i think it also needs to have a drawbar instead of that silly MT2 arbor | 23:08 |
| katsmeow-afk | it will do one thing i need badly, that is turn bearing seats on the car axle stub i have for the 6 inch 4jaw chuck on the otyher lathe bed | 23:09 |
| katsmeow-afk | i'llmake a wraparound "key' for it | 23:09 |
| fenn | be advised that the threaded portion is some non-standard metric thread (finer than fine thread) | 23:10 |
| fenn | coincidentally found on some bicycle crank arm pullers | 23:10 |
| gene_ | http://www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/images/Jordan06.JPG | 23:11 |
| gene_ | maybe something like this | 23:11 |
| katsmeow-afk | 12x1 | 23:11 |
| katsmeow-afk | holy cow, gene | 23:11 |
| gene_ | http://www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/images/SpielCin3.JPG | 23:12 |
| gene_ | I don't believe it's functional | 23:12 |
| gene_ | http://www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/minitoolmen.htm | 23:12 |
| fenn | the blue/gray bridgeport is functional, the bridge mill is not | 23:14 |
| fenn | supposedly it moves though | 23:14 |
| gene_ | http://www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/images/IqbalSherLathe.jpg this is functional | 23:21 |
| gene_ | I wonder if it can cut metal? | 23:22 |
| * fenn snorts | 23:22 | |
| gene_ | or at least foam | 23:22 |
| gene_ | or plastic | 23:22 |
| fenn | they can cut steel.. they just suck that's all | 23:22 |
| gene_ | on something that SMALL? | 23:23 |
| fenn | you can get a better lathe for $600 | 23:23 |
| gene_ | I want one that can fit in my backpack | 23:24 |
| kanzure | foldable tensegrity | 23:24 |
| gene_ | I don't think that will work | 23:25 |
| fenn | it'll work | 23:25 |
| gene_ | http://robotics.technion.ac.il/projects/patricia_project.html | 23:26 |
| gene_ | really? | 23:26 |
| fenn | they seem to be missing a few actuators | 23:26 |
| gene_ | the things on the bottom move | 23:26 |
| gene_ | I guess tensegrity could work with ECM | 23:27 |
| katsmeow-afk | the robots building more of themselves : http://rifraf.dyndns.org/robotics/unknown/arm_control.jpg | 23:27 |
| gene_ | but then I have to carry a resoiver too | 23:27 |
| gene_ | but water is widely available | 23:28 |
| gene_ | What the heck is that thing? | 23:28 |
| katsmeow-afk | the robot arm operating th elathe? | 23:28 |
| gene_ | yeah but how? | 23:29 |
| katsmeow-afk | i didn't ask | 23:29 |
| katsmeow-afk | the site owner isn't onirc anymore, near as i can tell | 23:29 |
| gene_ | more info? | 23:29 |
| katsmeow-afk | well, his nick was rifraf | 23:30 |
| gene_ | site? | 23:30 |
| katsmeow-afk | idon't understand the question | 23:30 |
| gene_ | do you have a website with the description of that thing or more pictures of it | 23:31 |
| katsmeow-afk | it's not mine, but you can shorten th eurl to get to the rest of the site | 23:31 |
| katsmeow-afk | i believe he stopped work on the site and everything else ~2005 | 23:32 |
| fenn | foxy was designed with the sole goal of getting rifraf a beer while he was on the couch | 23:32 |
| katsmeow-afk | yea, heh,, you knew rifraf from #robotics, fenn | 23:32 |
| katsmeow-afk | rif was a lil unknowing of the problems of robots in human space when he started that | 23:33 |
| katsmeow-afk | like, how to openthe fridge, not run things over, what was a beer, where is it, how to grasp it, etc etc etc | 23:33 |
| fenn | pff "simple matter of programming" | 23:33 |
| katsmeow-afk | and again, he didn't know | 23:34 |
| katsmeow-afk | he did do some things well, and he did keep trying,, i think the biggest block in doing stuff was money, lack of it | 23:34 |
| fenn | speaking of which, some guy is paying me wads of cash to hem and haw about his CNC project | 23:35 |
| katsmeow-afk | that's nice of him | 23:35 |
| gene_ | that's a pretty nice linear actuator design | 23:37 |
| kanzure | fenn: mind divulging how much those wads are? | 23:50 |
| katsmeow-afk | and where are you prattling on about them? | 23:52 |
| kanzure | san antonio | 23:52 |
| katsmeow-afk | i meant online | 23:52 |
| kanzure | I have made absolutely zero progress in understanding the occ api. | 23:53 |
| kanzure | hm: http://www.laduga.ru/software/occsketcher/index.html | 23:54 |
| gene_ | kanzure do you know processing? | 23:55 |
| kanzure | gene_: isn't that just java? | 23:55 |
| gene_ | I don't know | 23:55 |
| kanzure | I know enough about it. | 23:55 |
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