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| kanzure | fenn: les sounds mad at robotgroup, can you get him to subscribe to OM? | 08:28 |
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| kanzure | wow I think something happened and I've made 'progress' | 08:52 |
| kanzure | fenn: that thermodynamics paper had a data table of 'power required (kW)' and 'process rate (kg/hr)' and 'electricity required (J/kg)' cross-referenced to different manufacturing processes | 08:53 |
| kanzure | so, if metadata had a place to store strings that are parsed by your GNU units wrapper | 08:53 |
| kanzure | the 'process rate', for instance, would be particularly useful metadata especially if that 'units' string had a 'kg' term in it | 08:54 |
| kanzure | then we can demonstrate randomly interconnected strings of processes (even if they don't make sense- we can fix that later with 'does this connection make sense' code) | 08:54 |
| kanzure | I've ranted about this here: http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/Processes#Taxonomy_of_manufacturing_processes but unfortunately now have to run off to class and can't do a quick prototype. | 08:55 |
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| kanzure- | hm, so in FEA apps, you get this giant matrix of neighboring coefficients of various PDEs that you solve for, and apparently there are 'bands' that show up in this matrix, which might make for the speedup claimed by the FastFEA guy. | 14:59 |
| fenn | i don't think "randomly interconnected strings of processes" will impress anyone | 15:12 |
| fenn | http://cwwang.com/2008/04/08/soft-pneumatic-exoskeleton/ | 15:16 |
| fenn | 6 pounds! | 15:19 |
| fenn | it's not really an "exoskeleton" without a skeleton, eh | 15:21 |
| kanzure- | other things than random connections could be done. | 16:06 |
| kanzure- | http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/ULPFR/Math-Matrix-0.5/Matrix.pm | 16:07 |
| kanzure- | blah, normalize() is only for vectors | 16:07 |
| kanzure- | and it's not immediately apparent how to get a list of all components so that I may take the root of the sum of their squares | 16:07 |
| kanzure- | actually it might just be an array-of-an-array | 16:08 |
| kanzure- | so a foreach might do it. | 16:08 |
| kanzure- | aha. yep. | 16:19 |
| kanzure- | that 18 GB perl script was really only supposed to be 37 MB apparently | 16:19 |
| kanzure- | forgot to force a variable to be local-only | 16:19 |
| kanzure- | (yay scoping) | 16:20 |
| bkero | Write camel poop | 16:30 |
| kanzure- | hm, maybe we can get diybio to sequence our genomes for us | 16:35 |
| kanzure- | I sent out an email about a genome sequencing lottery. | 16:35 |
| * kanzure- laughs malaciously | 16:35 | |
| bkero | :) Develop tools to sequence your own genome. For under $30. In an hour. | 16:36 |
| xp_prg | kanzure- what is the largest basepair length that can be synthetically created right now? | 16:37 |
| kanzure | what do you mean by synthetically created? | 16:51 |
| kanzure | bkero: I guess there's the original Maxmer-something sequencing method, but it doesn't seem too appealing to me | 16:51 |
| kanzure | god I love this box | 16:55 |
| kanzure | there's a 1.4 GB memory hoggin' perl script running in the background, and I don't feel a thing | 16:56 |
| kanzure | oh | 17:25 |
| kanzure | nah, this is probably a stupid idea | 17:25 |
| kanzure | but re: that email I just sent replying to Jeff, I wonder if it would be useful to give people a very simple tool that would perform Freitas' KSRM metrics to determine whether or not a design is self-replicating | 17:26 |
| fenn | it wouldn't be simple? | 17:27 |
| kanzure | it's a very simple script to imagine, such as the Tukey Ratio, or mean average of parts addition | 17:27 |
| fenn | or you mean 'enter the mass of non replicating parts in this box" | 17:27 |
| fenn | or something like that | 17:27 |
| kanzure | well the catch here is that it forces people to type up their design into a format where mean average of parts addition could be calculated | 17:27 |
| kanzure | for instance, if each part requires 2 things that aren't in the list, .. | 17:27 |
| kanzure | *aren't already in the list | 17:27 |
| kanzure | kinda useless to write a tool before you have the data, heh | 17:27 |
| kanzure | but it might get the point across? | 17:27 |
| fenn | nobody cares | 17:28 |
| kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/openmanufacturing/msg/e4c375acce772250 | 17:28 |
| kanzure | the paragraph that reads "An approach to the problem of closure in real engineering-systems is" | 17:28 |
| kanzure | are you sure nobody cares? I get that feeling too, | 17:28 |
| kanzure | but maybe a simple tool like this will get them to think better? | 17:28 |
| kanzure | <-- is too young and hopeful of the world :( | 17:29 |
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| kanzure | http://cad.devl.org/examples.html | 18:29 |
| kanzure | hellooo | 18:29 |
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| gene | http://www.physorg.com/news157046734.html | 19:30 |
| gene | damn cold fusion might just work | 19:31 |
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