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| ybit | fenn, i never saw the comparison.yaml, do you still have it lying around? | 00:58 |
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| nsh | anyone from mainland US still awake? | 02:21 |
| nsh | looking particularly at you, kanzure | 02:22 |
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| fenn_ | ybit: comparison.yaml got split into 3 files, here: http://fennetic.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=skdb.git;a=tree;f=inventory/comparison | 05:38 |
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| fenn | of course that server may not be up in the coming week | 05:40 |
| ultraleibniz | oh look the KDE fairy visited me last night | 06:13 |
| ultraleibniz | cell.com runs IBM_HTTP_SERVER .. hrm. | 11:22 |
| ultraleibniz | http://ozgene.com/ <- order genetically engineered mice here | 11:26 |
| ultraleibniz | Synthetic gene networks that count http://heybryan.org/books/papers/Synthetic%20gene%20networks%20that%20count%20-%20George%20Church%20-%202009.pdf | 11:46 |
| ultraleibniz | http://heybryan.org/books/papers/It's%20the%20DNA%20that%20counts%20-%20Smolke%20-%202009.pdf It's the DNA that counts | 11:46 |
| ultraleibniz | A humanized version of FOXP2 affects cortico-basal ganglia circuits in mice http://heybryan.org/books/papers/A%20humanized%20version%20of%20FOXP2%20affects%20cortico-basal%20ganglia%20circuits%20in%20mice.pdf | 11:46 |
| ultraleibniz | Transgenic primate offspring http://heybryan.org/books/papers/Transgenic%20primate%20offspring.pdf | 11:46 |
| ultraleibniz | Marmoset model takes centre stage http://heybryan.org/books/papers/Marmoset%20model%20takes%20centre%20stage.pdf | 11:46 |
| ultraleibniz | Generation of transgenic non-human primates with germline transmission http://heybryan.org/books/papers/Generation%20of%20transgenic%20non-human%20primates%20with%20germline%20transmission%20-%20Sasaki%20-%202009.pdf | 11:47 |
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| ultraleibniz | the disk is completely wiped | 14:02 |
| ultraleibniz | even though I had another disk with all of the data, that one is gone as well | 14:03 |
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| ultraleibniz | hm, this isn't working | 16:44 |
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| kanzure | aha | 16:44 |
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| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/Microbiology_journals | 18:07 |
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| fenn | what disk is wiped? | 18:22 |
| kanzure | wubi installs a disk but as a file under NTFS on windows | 18:52 |
| kanzure | so if you're stupid enough to boot into Windows and shutdown improperly, you have this non-zero chance of losing the file beyond the ability of the fsck equivalent | 18:52 |
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| fenn | are you talking about the tablet computer? | 19:04 |
| kanzure | no, the (working) laptop | 19:33 |
| kanzure | so essentially I've lost my zotero collection but other than that everything was backed up | 19:34 |
| kanzure | except my edits to adesign, but they don't matter much anyway | 19:34 |
| fenn | my condolences | 19:38 |
| fenn | i suppose the answer is to not use wubi | 19:38 |
| kanzure | that, and another "back up more often or else" lesson | 19:39 |
| fenn | that only goes so far | 19:39 |
| kanzure | I still haven't given you Nature yet | 19:39 |
| fenn | my 'git everything' and clone between all your computers seems to be working fine so far | 19:39 |
| kanzure | I noticed. | 19:39 |
| fenn | of course i only have two computers | 19:40 |
| fenn | doesnt work so well for huge data though because git will duplicate everything in the archive itself | 19:40 |
| fenn | so i guess something like rsync is for that | 19:41 |
| fenn | also i figured out why i was having problems with kde.. turns out you have to do 'apt-file update' to get relevant current results | 19:41 |
| fenn | so i was missing the package that contained the file i wanted | 19:42 |
| kanzure | to search for files within the kde packages? | 19:42 |
| fenn | within any package | 19:42 |
| fenn | for example i was looking for 'systemsettings' which is the new kde control panel; it's in package 'systemsettings' big surprise | 19:42 |
| fenn | but apt-file didnt see it because it's a new package | 19:42 |
| fenn | btw did you know apt-get had tab completion for package names? | 19:43 |
| fenn | i think i should sleep over there tonight (or try to) so you can kick my ass in the morning and drag me to the bus stop | 19:45 |
| fenn | oh wait is it one of those 31 day months | 19:45 |
| fenn | nevermind | 19:45 |
| kanzure | today is saturday | 19:46 |
| fenn | well tomorrow won't be any different | 19:46 |
| kanzure | I was going to invite you over to watch anime for a few hours this morning | 19:46 |
| kanzure | or at least "stuff I didn't select that happens to be on television" | 19:46 |
| kanzure | I don't mind you hanging around, although I do have to figure out my dinner tonight | 19:47 |
| kanzure | this is more complicated than catching a Raiku | 19:47 |
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| kanzure | *this coming morning (1 to 5) | 19:54 |
| fenn | understood | 19:54 |
| fenn | these industrial monitors kinda suck | 19:54 |
| kanzure | ? | 19:55 |
| fenn | eh. my lcd for the tubputer died beyond my ability to resuscitate it again, so now i'm using a panel from some industrial dumpster in cleveland | 19:56 |
| kanzure | I have a 15 inch CRT in the closet that my mom would love for me to magically get rid of | 19:56 |
| kanzure | I was using it to monitor HTTP requests to the server previously | 19:57 |
| * kanzure wanders | 19:57 | |
| fenn | fare thee well | 19:57 |
| kanzure | huh I just got a job doing pcr primer design | 21:36 |
| kanzure | I wonder why | 21:36 |
| fenn | how did that work? | 21:43 |
| fenn | and isnt that completely automated now anyway? | 21:43 |
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| fenn | leon neihouse is such an idiot.. i can't believe he's serious | 21:46 |
| kanzure- | someone from infochimps.org named "flip" emailed me looking for people interested in doing contract work with 150 GB+ sized data sets | 21:46 |
| kanzure- | also something about bayesian filtering engines is involved | 21:46 |
| fenn | "my grand new plan to store all US nuclear waste on barges floating IN THE PACIFIC OCEAN" | 21:46 |
| kanzure- | he's apparently a local | 21:46 |
| fenn | bayesian filtering has something to do with pcr primer design? | 21:46 |
| kanzure- | no, this is from the guy named "flip" | 21:47 |
| kanzure- | "someone from infochimps.org named 'flip' emailed me .." | 21:47 |
| kanzure- | the pcr primer design stuff is one of joseph's gigs re: the money he has spent aquiring the TAMU $10 thermocycler patent bullshit | 21:47 |
| kanzure- | http://twitter.com/mrflip | 21:48 |
| fenn | i must admit i'm surprised there's a patent on a $10 thermocycler | 21:49 |
| kanzure- | so guido wants to do some open source software community stuff with the thermocycler project | 21:50 |
| kanzure- | his plan was revealed at biobarcamp 2008, blah blah blah | 21:50 |
| kanzure- | cheap primer design and shipping of the thermocyclers to people in third world countries (or anybody else for that matter) | 21:50 |
| fenn | that's wonderful~~ | 21:50 |
| kanzure- | what? | 21:51 |
| fenn | well. um. is there anything more than just buzzword stew? | 21:51 |
| kanzure- | money | 21:51 |
| fenn | ok what am i missing here? primer design is automated. $25 pcr is easily made from local materials | 21:52 |
| fenn | there's really no profit in it, so why would non-profits be putting money into it? | 21:52 |
| kanzure- | his non-profit isn't. | 21:52 |
| fenn | isn't what? | 21:53 |
| kanzure- | isn't putting money into it | 21:53 |
| fenn | then where's the money coming from? | 21:53 |
| kanzure- | I think he's loaded or something | 21:53 |
| fenn | ok let me rephrase that | 21:53 |
| fenn | why would someone donate money to build and distribute cheap pcr machines? | 21:54 |
| fenn | btw i hate these names "$25 thermocycler, $10 thermocycler" | 21:55 |
| kanzure- | not sure I remember the evil scheme that he has here | 21:55 |
| kanzure- | he might not have one since I don't remember one | 21:55 |
| fenn | oh i guess i should have flown out to biobarcamp to bask in his godliness | 21:55 |
| fenn | do you have any links or anything? | 21:56 |
| kanzure- | so I think I need to start keeping better track of all of these jobs that I'm supposedly doing or something | 21:57 |
| fenn | i assume it's related to this somehow http://freedomofscience.org/?page_id=22 | 21:57 |
| fenn | but that's about ELISA | 21:57 |
| kanzure- | nothing is popping up from my inbox | 21:57 |
| fenn | i remember that email from diybio: noalaignorancia | 21:58 |
| kanzure- | huh? | 21:59 |
| fenn | http://www.blogger.com/profile/14389092699525848673 | 21:59 |
| kanzure- | "in the de development of .." | 22:00 |
| kanzure- | I wonder from what language you have to come from in order to make an error like "the de" | 22:00 |
| fenn | spanish? | 22:00 |
| kanzure- | "a la" ? | 22:00 |
| kanzure- | although that's french | 22:00 |
| fenn | typos arent entirely rational | 22:00 |
| kanzure- | at least my typos have a reasonable IQ | 22:01 |
| * fenn briefly considers starting a new mailing list named 'oh-pun duh-velopment' which would function as a buzzword sink | 22:07 | |
| kanzure- | how would you attract buzzers? | 22:07 |
| fenn | by advertising our latest buzzwords of course | 22:07 |
| kanzure- | free open source hierarchical bayesian ajax network systems | 22:08 |
| fenn | using the latest in social semantic desktop software | 22:08 |
| kanzure- | and commons-friendly totalitarian ethics engines | 22:08 |
| fenn | meshwork.. yeah | 22:09 |
| * fenn bows to your superior buzzliness | 22:09 | |
| fenn | i wonder about these "people" who are following 300+ twitters | 22:10 |
| fenn | is there some sort of twitter priority filtering bayesian ajax network system? | 22:10 |
| fenn | mr. flip is following rauchwerk | 22:13 |
| kanzure- | hm. | 22:13 |
| fenn | whatever that means | 22:13 |
| kanzure- | rauchwerk isn't exactly publicizing himself much | 22:14 |
| fenn | i think infochimps' data hoard has grown beyond its puny web interface's ability to handle | 22:20 |
| fenn | 'page 1 of 8483 showing data fields' | 22:20 |
| fenn | ah well at least they recognize the problem and claim to be working on solutions | 22:21 |
| kanzure- | flip describing his project: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIuqJ1QZpvI | 22:26 |
| kanzure- | http://test.infochimps.org/ | 22:26 |
| kanzure- | http://www.capitalfactory.com/2009/04/2009-finalists.html | 22:27 |
| kanzure- | neat, he wants to buy me and "your two smartest friends lunch" | 22:27 |
| kanzure- | now I just need two smarts friend, geeze | 22:27 |
| kanzure- | *friends | 22:27 |
| fenn | Join us at Mangia pizza on Guadalupe (3016 Guadalupe #100: free wifi, beer & great pizza) Thursday July 10th at 6:30pm and meet your fellow Austin data nerds. | 22:28 |
| kanzure- | Austin Obsessive Hoarding Club | 22:29 |
| fenn | heheh chalkboard graphs | 22:33 |
| fenn | i like the editing style | 22:33 |
| kanzure- | I think all of these "jobs" I'm taking on is going to end up in a massive pay war | 22:34 |
| kanzure- | who will pay the highest for me? | 22:34 |
| fenn | *cough subcontract cough* | 22:36 |
| fenn | my rates are reasonably | 22:36 |
| fenn | reasonably something | 22:36 |
| kanzure- | is that the way to do it? | 22:37 |
| fenn | it depends what they are after | 22:41 |
| kanzure- | fenn: feel free to show up with food or something | 23:07 |
| fenn | i have a block of cheese | 23:09 |
| kanzure- | no thanks | 23:09 |
| fenn | cherries? | 23:10 |
| kanzure- | negatory | 23:10 |
| fenn | umm.. cilantro? | 23:10 |
| kanzure- | do you have any actual food | 23:10 |
| fenn | i guess not | 23:10 |
| fenn | what's actual food? | 23:11 |
| fenn | is that like actual hardware? | 23:11 |
| kanzure- | yeah, except more buzzles | 23:11 |
| kanzure- | and buziness | 23:11 |
| fenn | no i only have ingredients | 23:12 |
| kanzure- | bah you're not thinking holistically | 23:12 |
| fenn | perhaps i should hire a TRIZ consultant | 23:12 |
| kanzure- | wonder if Max More counts | 23:12 |
| kanzure- | since he's always going on about TRIZ | 23:12 |
| fenn | i could never see the substance in triz | 23:13 |
| fenn | er, besides bullshit i mean | 23:13 |
| fenn | it's broken russian word salad | 23:13 |
| fenn | actual salad! | 23:13 |
| * fenn perks @ infinite monkeywrench | 23:19 | |
| kanzure- | the book store? | 23:19 |
| fenn | http://github.com/infochimps/imw/blob/276ed1254c04db7e65b4455a2f3994dec5793b02/README | 23:20 |
| fenn | though perhaps 'meat grinder' is a more appropriate metaphor | 23:21 |
| drazak_ | back from prom | 23:27 |
| kanzure- | you know you've done something wrong if you get back from a prom and go to IRC instead of to bed with your woman thingy | 23:27 |
| drazak_ | she and I were just friends | 23:27 |
| fenn | that's what you think | 23:29 |
| fenn | weren't you the one berating us about not having girlfriends? | 23:29 |
| drazak_ | yes :P | 23:30 |
| kanzure- | interesting how that works | 23:30 |
| drazak_ | lost story short I had a girlfriend and then lost her to just being friends, again | 23:30 |
| fenn | sounds like a scam | 23:31 |
| kanzure- | yep | 23:31 |
| * kanzure- watches bleach | 23:31 | |
| fenn | oh oh bad anime time | 23:31 |
| * fenn brings the cheese! | 23:31 | |
| kanzure- | bad anime is better than no anime .. or something? | 23:32 |
| * drazak_ used to like rurouni kenshin | 23:32 | |
| drazak_ | but only subbed, most dubbed versions stank | 23:32 |
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