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| kanzure | ybit: what do you mean "what extropy mailing list" ? | 07:38 |
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| kanzure | it's *the* extropy mailing list | 07:38 |
| kanzure- | hello | 10:12 |
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| kanzure | oh crud. autologging wasn't set to on here? wah. | 20:37 |
| kanzure | "Kidney-Targeted Naked DNA Transfer by Retrograde Renal Vein Injection in Rats" | 20:37 |
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| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/Kidney-targeted%20naked%20DNA%20transfer%20by%20retrograde%20renal%20vein%20injection%20in%20rats.pdf | 20:41 |
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| kanzure | Resistance to diet-induced obesity with synthetic glyoxylate shunt | 20:48 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/Resistance%20to%20diet-induced%20obesity%20in%20mice%20with%20synthetic%20glyoxylate%20shunt.pdf | 20:48 |
| kanzure | (that's the "breathing out fat" article) | 20:48 |
| fenn | http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Mice_20cream | 20:51 |
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| kanzure | "Given that most ice cream is artificially flavored, you would actually only need a very small sample of mouse milk to generate a product. More to the point, why not just come up with some strange flavor (camomile and paprika, say), and market it as mice cream? Nesquik did very well using a rabbit to sell powdered flavoring for milk. Now, what mouse image could we use here...?" | 21:06 |
| kanzure | haha, mickey mouse | 21:06 |
| kanzure | fenn: is there a way to run unittest.main() without having it exit my python session? | 21:21 |
| ybit | given that no country decides to offer a basic income, how could one live without money: boat or RV. | 21:28 |
| ybit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zubr_class_LCAC | 21:28 |
| ybit | one of the larger hovercrafts ^ | 21:28 |
| ybit | it's a tax-haven... on a boat | 21:29 |
| ybit | re: haxors taking over my brain. not going to happen with an eeg | 21:37 |
| QuantumG | Things you need to do with your DNI: | 21:42 |
| QuantumG | 1. Invoke mental imagery, preferably without interfering with normal vision. | 21:42 |
| QuantumG | 2. Infer mental imagery manipulation.. for example, when you hear the question "what letter do you get by turning a Z on its side?" results in a common specific quale of visual intelligence. | 21:42 |
| QuantumG | 3. Test and improve the rate and bandwidth. | 21:42 |
| QuantumG | With such an interface you can do human computer interaction in ways that are completely unavailable to current input devices. | 21:43 |
| QuantumG | anything else is just re-inventing the same input devices we already have.. and, although that may be great for the disabled, doesn't strike me as particularly interesting. | 21:44 |
| ybit | it does me | 21:47 |
| * ybit wants an eeg | 21:47 | |
| ybit | maybe it would help me figure out why on certain days i'm super happy like this afternoon | 21:48 |
| ybit | because i would want to keep that feeling with taking drugs | 21:48 |
| ybit | s/with/without | 21:48 |
| QuantumG | :) | 21:48 |
| QuantumG | putting a notepad and pen next to your work area and writing down how you're feeling about stuff would probably do more for that :) | 21:49 |
| QuantumG | last time I did that I found I was most depressed on days where I used the words "waiting for" the most. | 21:50 |
| ybit | nah, what am i going to write? 'i feel happy, i should be like this more often,' isn't going to help. | 21:50 |
| QuantumG | you write like a micro-journal | 21:50 |
| QuantumG | 10:12 getting coffee | 21:50 |
| ybit | maybe it was all the sugar in my body, i did have grape juice, coca-cola, and some other sugars | 21:51 |
| QuantumG | 11:45 feeling hungry | 21:51 |
| ybit | oh, to figure out what might have caused it, i see. i have a memory | 21:51 |
| QuantumG | it's actually quite hard to keep an accurate journal of all the shit you do in a day though | 21:51 |
| ybit | yeah | 21:51 |
| ybit | gots to hate the last bite of ice cream falling in the floor :P | 21:52 |
| ybit | In the United States, another form of property tax is the personal property tax, which can target | 21:52 |
| ybit | * automobiles, boats, aircraft and other vehicles | 21:52 |
| ybit | it might be easier to get some type of basic income through then to avoid property tax | 21:53 |
| ybit | through +legislation | 21:54 |
| ybit | then again.. | 21:54 |
| ybit | http://www.panamacruise.com.pa/page-Yacht+Registration-21.html | 21:54 |
| ybit | "The Republic of Panama is one of the best countries in the world for vessel registry since vessel owners have the advantage of Tax Breaks that Panamanian laws offer to vessel owners, yacht owners and boat owners. Furthermore, Panama´s taxation is only territorial and does not tax the income of vessels involved on international trade. There is no discrimination on citizenship, nationality or residence for anyone willing to register a vessel under the | 21:55 |
| * ybit is doing a simple thought experiment, trying to figure out how possible it would be to live without working | 21:55 | |
| ybit | i've read a few essays from http://www.whywork.org before and they are what i've been thinking for quite some time | 21:56 |
| ybit | the zubr can carry ~150 tons | 22:01 |
| splicer | you need to work so you can pay for bailing out wall street and fighting evil | 22:02 |
| ybit | the hovercraft would be the ultimate mobile fablab | 22:06 |
| ybit | well, until i can afford a spacheship | 22:06 |
| ybit | s/spaceship/starship | 22:07 |
| ybit | still, a chemistry, bio, and fab lab would catch the attention of govs if they were to board | 22:27 |
| ybit | 'smuggling drugs' would be a suspicion i'm sure | 22:28 |
| ybit | living on a large hovercraft doesn't seem plausible | 22:29 |
| ybit | best bet may be to save money for 20 years while building a home/bio/chem/fablab and hydroponic garden, and then use the money saved to pay for property tax | 22:30 |
| ybit | 10% of my income for 20 years should get me through at least 20 years of property tax | 22:31 |
| ybit | 10% of income + interest | 22:31 |
| ybit | http://www.lendingclub.com/ wonder how risky that is, if possible, for how long might i recieve 9+% | 22:34 |
| ybit | the tlc549 chips came in today (for thermal cycler), had i planned properly, i wouldn't be waiting until the morning time to drill holes in the canister | 22:35 |
| ybit | btw, ti gives free samples | 22:42 |
| ybit | i had three free samples come in, each works just fine | 22:42 |
| ybit | -2.50 from $25 | 22:43 |
| ybit | and they spent $8 on a metal canister o.O | 22:43 |
| ybit | you can get one from a thrift store or yard sale for $1 | 22:43 |
| ybit | anyway, it's practically free to build this machine | 22:47 |
| ybit | and it's great way to teach about pcr | 22:48 |
| ybit | am i the only one who doesn't have a life? i thought this was irc, _the_ hangout for such people :) | 22:49 |
| * ybit gave up a night of drugs and women to read... | 22:52 | |
| ybit | when i start putting ebooks on my freerunner, i can do drugs, women, and read all in the same night. what bliss. | 22:52 |
| ybit | but i'll probably just read :P | 22:53 |
| fenn | aw wtf | 22:59 |
| fenn | "today on How Its Made: carved wood sculptures, dinner forks, cow bells, and fountain pens" | 22:59 |
| fenn | where's my robot porn!!! | 22:59 |
| ybit | :P | 22:59 |
| ybit | i like that show, even though they skip details | 23:00 |
| fenn | i think the $10 pcr needs a ventilation fan | 23:01 |
| ybit | why? | 23:03 |
| fenn | otherwise it cools too slowly | 23:03 |
| ybit | i figured that, i just don't know why that isn't desirable | 23:12 |
| fenn | somehow it increases non-specific binding.. i admit i dont understand it either | 23:17 |
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